Titans?
Jason Brown was waived by the Rams so he could not require a pick if the Packers sign him to replace Scottie. Losing Wells and Flynn would be a huge loss in terms of comp.
quote:Originally posted by Orlando Wolf:
Titans?
Tetas.
Tetas was the answer.
quote:Originally posted by GBP1:
Speaking of Maud
Speaking of Bud:
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter Reply Retweet Favorite · Open As Tennessee is wooing Peyton Manning, Packers free-agent center Scott Wells is visiting the Titans today.
Packers C Scott Wells' off-season home is 15 minutes away from the Tennessee Titans facility in Nashville, Tenn., and so what better place to make a permanent residence than right there.
I didn't realize this. Wells got a ring in GB. Now he can basically play at home.
I didn't realize this. Wells got a ring in GB. Now he can basically play at home.
Snapping the ball to Peyton Manning.
Not bad for a 7th round draft choice to go from Favre to Rodgers to Manning (If the Manning to Titans thing happens)
Not bad for a 7th round draft choice to go from Favre to Rodgers to Manning (If the Manning to Titans thing happens)
Here are the comments Bob McGinn from JSO collected from NFL executives on Scott Wells value
Scott Wells, C: “One of the top three or four players available at the position. I’m sure someone will target him and pay him as a starter. I don’t see him as a high-level starter. I see him as an average starter. Someone may pay him a middle-of-the-road contract. I wouldn’t break the bank for him. He plays to his strengths and hides his limitations.” … “There probably will be a market for him. His productivity has been on the upswing. He could probably play guard in a pinch but you wouldn’t want him to play guard. He’s not as good as (Chris) Myers. You don’t necessarily need a great player in there. You need somebody who can hold it down. Obviously, the great ones, they’re going to stay where they are.”
Scott Wells, C: “One of the top three or four players available at the position. I’m sure someone will target him and pay him as a starter. I don’t see him as a high-level starter. I see him as an average starter. Someone may pay him a middle-of-the-road contract. I wouldn’t break the bank for him. He plays to his strengths and hides his limitations.” … “There probably will be a market for him. His productivity has been on the upswing. He could probably play guard in a pinch but you wouldn’t want him to play guard. He’s not as good as (Chris) Myers. You don’t necessarily need a great player in there. You need somebody who can hold it down. Obviously, the great ones, they’re going to stay where they are.”
Centers Aplenty In Free Agency
packerupdate.net
By Michael Rodney on Wednesday, March 14th, 2012
Past the click Michael Rodney takes a closer look at the strengths and weaknesses of Jamaal Jackson's abilities. Worth the read.
packerupdate.net
By Michael Rodney on Wednesday, March 14th, 2012
quote:With Scott Wells apparently headed elsewhere, the Packers may soon be looking for a new center. Fortunately, the free agent market is especially deep at that position. Chris Myers (Houston), Jason Brown (ex-St. Louis), Jeff Faine (Tampa), Samson Satele (Oakland), Dan Koppen (New England), Matt Birk (Baltimore), Jeff Saturday (Indianapolis) and Jamaal Jackson (Philadelphia) have all started at least 70 games in the NFL and all eight were still available when I wrote this story on Wednesday evening.
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Jackson is 31, but he should be refreshed after barely playing last season. Normally, a veteran losing his starting job would be cause for alarm, but that’sthis case. The former Delaware State star simply didn’t fit the scheme brought to Philly by new offensive line coach Howard Mudd, who prefers smaller players that are extremely quick and agile. The 325-pound Jackson never had a chance in his summer “competition” against 280-pound rookie Jason Kelce continue
Past the click Michael Rodney takes a closer look at the strengths and weaknesses of Jamaal Jackson's abilities. Worth the read.
Honestly I would rather draft Pete Konz and take my chances with him than sign a retread that is a 1 or 2 year rental. I think that's the direction they're going in anyway...they have made little effort to sign/re-sign a Center, Konz should be available at 28 or close to 28, and Thompsons track record suggests he will go with youth over 30+ veterans.
I don't think Konz is on the board when the Packers pick. Cowboys like him, for one
Hauser, Center's not sexy enough for Jerruh though.
Highest I see him going is San Diego at 18. Pittsburgh at 24 is more likely meaning a trade up is doable.
quote:Originally posted by Grave Digger:
Honestly I would rather draft Pete Konz and take my chances with him than sign a retread that is a 1 or 2 year rental. I think that's the direction they're going in anyway...they have made little effort to sign/re-sign a Center, Konz should be available at 28 or close to 28, and Thompsons track record suggests he will go with youth over 30+ veterans.
Nice try, but we'll never forget you calling J.J. WATT a bust.
quote:Pittsburgh at 24 is more likely meaning a trade up is doable.
Doesn't Pittsburgh have the elder Pouncey?
They do but their interior is a mess so I don't think it's unrealistic to see them draft Konz and either move Pouncey to OG or stick Konz at OG.
quote:Originally posted by Grave Digger:
Honestly I would rather draft Pete Konz and take my chances with him than sign a retread that is a 1 or 2 year rental. I think that's the direction they're going in anyway...they have made little effort to sign/re-sign a Center, Konz should be available at 28 or close to 28, and Thompsons track record suggests he will go with youth over 30+ veterans.
Agree. Only issue I see is that that would be the third year in a row they take an OLineman in the first. Wonder if that could factor into them looking at another position instead.
quote:Originally posted by Grave Digger:
Honestly I would rather draft Pete Konz and take my chances with him than sign a retread that is a 1 or 2 year rental.
But, but he played at Wisconsin.
quote:Originally posted by Satori:
Here are the comments Bob McGinn from JSO collected from NFL executives on Scott Wells value
Scott Wells, C: “One of the top three or four players available at the position. I’m sure someone will target him and pay him as a starter. I don’t see him as a high-level starter. I see him as an average starter. Someone may pay him a middle-of-the-road contract. I wouldn’t break the bank for him...”
Can someone advise on whether this is a McGinn piece that has credibility or is crap?
what do you think?
That is always a good barometer for the rest of us.
That is always a good barometer for the rest of us.
Always been a big McGinn guy. What do you think?
It's McGinn's opinion so he's entitled to it. I agree with his opinion in this instance.
quote:Originally posted by Goalline:
But, but he played at Wisconsin.
Are you serious? I didn't realize that. He's definitely JJ tWatt overrated then.
quote:Originally posted by Grave Digger:
It's McGinn's opinion so he's entitled to it.
FYI - The opinion is from an NFL executive and McGinn just reported it
For those thinking drafting Konz to fill the center position is better than signing a vet, it has two negative effects. Number one, it puts a key offensive line position, someone who is responsible for recognizing formations and diagnosing blitzes and stunts in order to protect your franchise QB, in the hands of a rookie. Equally important, it would keep the Packers from addressing their obvious defensive needs (OLB, DE, S) in the first round.
Roch: TT is going to draft the BPA like he always does. I too hope it fills a defensive need but that isn't necessarily the way it's going to shake out.
Wilde is of the opinion that Wells will experience a soft market and end up back with the Packers. Hard to say how it'll all shake out, but in TT I trust.
Right Satori, missed that. At least he identified it as an NFL exec. and not just as "whispers".
I don't think it's really an awful thing to have a rookie Center. Certainly the track record for 1st round rookie Centers the last few years has been pretty good (Mangold, Mack, Pouncey, etc.) and I think Konz is somewhere between Mangold and Pouncey. It also gives us a chance to have Lang, Sitton, Newhouse/Sherrod, and Bulaga to grow with a Center rather than continuously shuffle veteran Centers every couple years. Having a 22/23 year old Center who can grow into the position with those other young guys will give us a really solid, cohesive line for many years.
I don't think it's really an awful thing to have a rookie Center. Certainly the track record for 1st round rookie Centers the last few years has been pretty good (Mangold, Mack, Pouncey, etc.) and I think Konz is somewhere between Mangold and Pouncey. It also gives us a chance to have Lang, Sitton, Newhouse/Sherrod, and Bulaga to grow with a Center rather than continuously shuffle veteran Centers every couple years. Having a 22/23 year old Center who can grow into the position with those other young guys will give us a really solid, cohesive line for many years.
I have several colleagues who are avid Eagles fans and they echoed the comments from PU as far as Jamaal Jackson- he is a very good player but was caught in the switch to the lighter OL that OC Mudd wants
Jackson is more of a mauler than a ZBS guy
Jackson is more of a mauler than a ZBS guy
quote:Originally posted by Grave Digger:quote:Originally posted by Goalline:
But, but he played at Wisconsin.
Are you serious? I didn't realize that. He's definitely JJ tWatt overrated then.
Konz, Zeitler, Jones and maybe Blake is about as deep as I'd want to go if you want a guy to play right away. DeCastro is a guy they say could play center too but he'll be gone before the Packers pick anyway.
I would rather get a solid veteran center and spend those high picks on defensive talent unless we go the other way and get some veteran talent on the D and go with a young center. It just seems that most of our early picks should be on the defensive side of the ball (pash rushing DE, OLB, Secondary). At least in yards given up, we had the worst defense in NFL history last year and obviously have some gaping holes there.
quote:Originally posted by Satori:
I have several colleagues who are avid Eagles fans and they echoed the comments from PU as far as Jamaal Jackson- he is a very good player but was caught in the switch to the lighter OL that OC Mudd wants
Jackson is more of a mauler than a ZBS guy
He deserved to be out for being a mauler. I mean come on, a new coach wants to change over right away to a ZBS system with smaller linemen? That always works out well, right?
If we go back to the comments about the Wolf/Thompson methodology- we hear them make comments that they prefer to draft the offense so they can all grow together. And then use the draft/free agency/trades etc to bolster the defense where its easier and faster to assimilate the new parts.
GB has only a few FAs and many UDFAs, but the vast majority have been on the defensive side of the ball. That may shed some light on how they will address their needs in 2012 offseason
Zombo, Walden, Green, Pickett, Woodson, Bigby, Shields, Tramon, Chillar, Manuel, Peprah, Jenkins all came from outside the draft.
GB has only a few FAs and many UDFAs, but the vast majority have been on the defensive side of the ball. That may shed some light on how they will address their needs in 2012 offseason
Zombo, Walden, Green, Pickett, Woodson, Bigby, Shields, Tramon, Chillar, Manuel, Peprah, Jenkins all came from outside the draft.
quote:Originally posted by Herschel:
He deserved to be out for being a mauler. I mean come on, a new coach wants to change over right away to a ZBS system with smaller linemen? That always works out well, right?
Agreed. Hopefully they're not as smart as TT and MM. If so, they'll figure out what needs to be corrected and go build an OL and a team that wins a championship and contends for several years thereafter.
If Wells is looking for a contract averaging $7 mill per year, and doesn't get it, he may go back to uncle TT for what he can get. I find it interesting that Myers isn't signed yet either.
