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Originally Posted by CUPackFan:

       
At this point I don't know how you can argue that Vaughters/Bradford are better options than Spikes.  Yeah he's terrible in coverage but Spikes wouldn't be a coverage ILB; he'd be a 2 down run stuffer.  And they could use a 2 down run stuffer after what we saw on Sunday. 

       


I think both players are younger and better. I'm really not sure they make a call up though. If they do, my guess is Vaughters.

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Originally Posted by DH13:

That's a great pep talk but the StL DL will make a lot of OL look bad this year.  I don't see SEA OL being any worse than CHI so it will come down to LB and secondary stopping Lynch.

 

I concur.. Nothing I have seen gives me reason to be optimistic about our D line or run D in general.  I'd be shocked if we hold them under 150 on the ground.   

 

I am optimistic that we can remain efficient on offense and out score them.

Originally Posted by Trophies:

Our next 7 games is roughly the 2nd toughest schedule in football. 4 at home, 3 away. That's with a .375 Rams team and .563 Chiefs and Chargers teams. I suspect all 3 will be better than their 2014 records.

 

Whatever. Just looking at our schedule man.

 

2nd half is better with games at home v. DAL and on the road @ AZ, @ OAK and 5 division games. Could make for a nice finish. If we finish the regular season 12-4 or better we should be good. Really good.

SuperBowl Champions don't have tough schedules...by definition,  they are better than everybody else. 

Originally Posted by BrainDed:
Originally Posted by DH13:

That's a great pep talk but the StL DL will make a lot of OL look bad this year.  I don't see SEA OL being any worse than CHI so it will come down to LB and secondary stopping Lynch.

 

I concur.. Nothing I have seen gives me reason to be optimistic about our D line or run D in general.  I'd be shocked if we hold them under 150 on the ground.   

 

I am optimistic that we can remain efficient on offense and out score them.

I also think they will have trouble holding the Hags under 150 on the ground and who is going to cover Graham?  All that being said the pressure will be on the offense to score points and a lot of them to stay in the game.

I am curious about the amount of games lost to injury by the Packers the last few years (last year aside) and how it stacks up to the rest of the league.

 

Unfortunately, Barrington out probably doesn't change much, especially given our inability to get off the field on third down. With our D, Graham is still poised for big yardage, as is Lynch. We have no one to cover Graham, and our DL can't stop the run. The only thing I can see being done differently is having Richardson covering Graham and bringing him up to play more of a LB/S combo. 

 

If the Hags get Graham and Lynch going and win the TOP battle, our O will be pressed to score every time they get on the field and it could be a very long night in Green Bay. I hate the Hags.

The main thing that gets me about the Seahawks is that in the last game we played them (NFC championship), the Packers forced I believe 5 TO's and with that many TO's, it is even shocking to me how little the offense scored.

 

I am not trying to be a negative person here.  It is just that there seems a near consensus that the Packers can be a #15 defense because of the unstoppable Packer's offense.

 

Well, when it comes to the Seahawks, I'm from Missouri.

 

Show me.  Show me the unstoppable offense against Seattle.

 

Hell, with 5 TO's, they should have hung 40+ on the Hawks in that game.

I think this game will be a much different story phaedrus. SEA lost a ton on D. There are mismatches at a number of positions for Aaron Rodgers and our entire O to exploit. We just have to keep Aaron clean against a formidable DL. A lot hinges on Bakhtiari, Sitton, Linsley, Lang and Bulaga.

 

On Special Teams, our coverage units are going to have to play spot on. They've got to shut down Tyler Lockett. Look for Rip, Rollins, Richardson, Goodson and Janis to have a solid showing.

 

This will be one hell of a test for Zook and McCarthy, and Capers.

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AR was playing on one leg in the NFCC game, but yes, they should have scored more off 5 TOs. I'm liking the 1 game sample of the play calling from Clements and expect a more pedal to the medal approach from him, since he is focusing on just the O compared to McCarthy responsible for everything and still trying to be the play caller.

 

 

Andrew Brandt was on with Ross Tucker this morning and they discussed the Kam Chancellor situation.

 

The question Tucker asked was how much is win Win worth in regards to getting Kam to end the hold-out.

 

Brandts comments: 3 years left on the current deal, and too many other players with multi-years left on their deals, so they won't set a precedent. Brandt thinks talks (if there are any) are likely around moving some of the $$ earlier in the remaining contract to get Kam more sooner, but not increasing the total of the current deal. Does not think this will go the entire year, but thinks it is still a while off for a deal. Said he didn't think the SEA S play vs STL helped Kam's position. 

 

 

After part-timer Clay Matthews and Nate Palmer, only rookie Jake Ryan is left at the position. That is, unless the coaches decide to switch Andy Mulumba from the outside – a move that would make sense for a number of reasons.

 

One is that Mulumba is currently sixth on the depth chart outside. He didn’t even dress for the opener. Another is that the third-year player from Eastern Michigan appears to have the skill set to play inside in the base. He’s large and physical and has functional playing range between the tackles. And most importantly, what’s the downside? If it doesn’t work, he goes back to being the low man on the outside. But if it does work, perhaps he’ll be ready to contribute when the weather turns cold.

Originally Posted by oldschool:
Originally Posted by Music City:

I want them to win like any other week. But if they don't it's not anything more than a loss in September.

I strongly disagree. It's very important to exorcise this demon...at home...now, while we have the chance. This is a BIG game!

 

It's HUUUUGE! It would be weak to pretend otherwise.... (Donald Trump voice) 

Yes, it's week 2, but I think this is very important to win this year.  Not only do we need to get the monkey off our backs with Seattle, but it's an NFC game, and that may be a deciding factor when playoffs come.  Also, having a victory against them would be a tiebreaker that would give us home field advantage if we have the same record and face them in the playoffs (likely, imho).

 

Whereas, a loss to the Chefs next week (AFC team) would have fewer ramifications.  However, 4 of the next 5 games are at home, so let's hope we kick butt and take names!  It would be wonderful to have Detroilet, Minnesnowda and Chicaaago far in the rearview mirror!

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Originally Posted by oldschool:
Originally Posted by Hungry5:

Will be nice having Datone back.

Call me unimpressed, once again (sigh) I didn't hear his name even once last week.

I know what you mean oldschool. I'm just hoping the guy turns things around. This would be the perfect game for him to do so.

 

In 314 defensive snaps last season, Datone Jones gave us 2 sacks, 3 QB hits, 17 hurries, 2 PDs, 1 INT and 10 stops to go with 6 missed tackles, 0 FFs, 0 FR.

 

Not counting on anything, but I would love to see this player become a real player.

 

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RoyalWulff,

 

We need HFA in the playoffs this year. Especially if it comes down to us playing SEA.

 

BTW, KC is undefeated at Lambeau Field. Another monkey we need to get off our backs, next Monday. I believe they are 3-0 in our house.

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MM press conference from earlier today, from GBPG:

Green Bay Packers coach Mike McCarthy spoke with media for about nine minutes before Wednesday's practice, the first that will be used to prepare against the Seattle Seahawks. Here are some highlights of his conversation.

 

On the impact of losing starting ILB Sam Barrington: We placed Sam Barrington on IR yesterday. Sam Barrington, obviously one of our starters. So that's the obvious answer to the question. But Sam was really taking on a leadership role, defensively. He was a signal caller, so that was a big responsibility you have on defense.

 

On Nate Palmer getting opportunity at ILB: Nate Palmer gives us the ability to play outside and inside. He had production in this first game, and I think he'll be a week better.

On who takes over communication: Nate Palmer, he takes over communication.

 

On Morgan Burnett's status to play Sunday: Hope so. I'm hoping he practices today.

 

On getting Seahawks at home: It's the start of our home schedule. We've got the "Get Loud" campaign going on, so that's important. Home games are so important, and I think we did a heck of a job last year at home.

 

On turning tables against Seahawks: I really haven't thought much about that part, but really just focusing on the game plan. Every week is a different challenge. So just really focused on the information at hand to get ready for this game.

 

On a possible mental hurdle against Seahawks: Oh, I don't think so. I don't look at it that way. It's a new experience, considering the environment we'll be in. I'm looking forward to the challenge.

 

On Seahawks missing Kam Chancellor: He's a Pro Bowl player. He has a lot of leadership with that team. We really focused on really the scheme and how people are playing, where they're playing, matchups and so forth. I'm not going to compare their defense from this week or last week to last year, but obviously they have some new faces there.

 

On prime time games: It's a big deal. It's a different deal for our fans. They're different, though. They take more to get used to. My favorite games are noon games at Lambeau Field, personally. Night games, there are different things you have to talk about to get used to, from a distraction standpoint. Night games are obviously great for fans, great for TV, but my preference would be to play them all at noon.

 

On Richard Sherman in the slot: Richard Sherman played the slot the last time we played them. He's a terrific player. We'll focus on who lines up and where, and focus on running our offense.

 

On emotions of this game; We've had an opportunity as a football team – I think individually everybody has had the opportunity to go through last season. We're focused on getting through our next game 2-0.

 

On Russell Wilson's growth: Command of the offense. Obviously, very comfortable. He makes a lot of plays with his feet. He can make all the throws. He's an electric player.

 

On Marshawn Lynch wearing teams down: I mean, Marshawn Lynch is a heck of a football player. How the last game went is really irrelevant compared to preparing for this game. we're really focused on who we're going to face this week.

How do you guys think Jake Ryan will do?  Who thinks he's ready?  I think any reps he gets will certainly help, but a rook in such a big game is a calculated risk, as well.

 

I hope ClayMaker can help plug the middle.   I'm very concerned about Lynch.

 

If Palmer and Jake struggle at ILB, does anyone think any of our reserve DB's could help out?  Thinking outside the box here, I know.  But those guys seem pretty athletic.

Originally Posted by phaedrus:

The main thing that gets me about the Seahawks is that in the last game we played them (NFC championship), the Packers forced I believe 5 TO's and with that many TO's, it is even shocking to me how little the offense scored.

 

I am not trying to be a negative person here.  It is just that there seems a near consensus that the Packers can be a #15 defense because of the unstoppable Packer's offense.

 

Well, when it comes to the Seahawks, I'm from Missouri.

 

Show me.  Show me the unstoppable offense against Seattle.

 

Hell, with 5 TO's, they should have hung 40+ on the Hawks in that game.

 

Pretty much explains why the only way for McCarthy to maintain street cred with this team, was to  kick his own ass with Das Boot, and give up the beloved play calling.

 

 I'll give him credit for that anyway, it had to bite... big time.

Ryan had 2 sacks in preseason and 3 TFL. Was thrown on just once in his 60 snaps, went for an 8 yd. completion. Made some tackles, missed some getting caught up in blocks. Seems to have good instincts.

 

Baptism by fire.

 

I think they should keep Randall, Rollins and Gunter active and play all 3. They are fearless, capable tacklers. Hoping for a big game from Richardson, and that Burnett can play.

Trophies:

BTW, KC is undefeated at Lambeau Field. Another monkey we need to get off our backs, next Monday. I believe they are 3-0 in our house.

They have been a royal pain.  In the Majik year (1989?), the Chiefs pummeled the Pack 21-3 in Lambeau Field on Game 14, their final loss.  They just missed the playoffs on the last regular season game between the Vikings and the Bengals.  Vikings win and they are in and Pack and bengals out.  Bengals win and they and Pack are are in and Vikings and Steelers out.

 

The 1996 championship Packers lost 27-20 at KC.  I think this is when Chmura was injured and so the Packers were minus Brooks, Freeman, and Chmura.  They would then lose to Dallas (was White pi$$ed at the end of that game as the Cowboys elected to kick a 7th FG that gave their kicker a team record, but was meaningless.)

 

The 2003 Packers hosted the Chiefs who at the time were 5-0.  This was my first regular season game at Lambeau.  Pack had their a$$es.  Chiefs get lucky breaks and it gets into OT.  Ahman Green fumbles and the next play is like a 60 yard TD bomb.

 

Unreal.  On the ride to Milwaukee, Packer radio said probably the most heartbreaking regular season loss since the 1950's.

 

So, the Chiefs have been a problem for the Pack, even at home.

 

By the way, they have some great fans.  Chiefs fans had quite a presence in that game and they were generally really cool.

Originally Posted by phaedrus:
 

The 2003 Packers hosted the Chiefs who at the time were 5-0.  This was my first regular season game at Lambeau.  Pack had their a$$es.  Chiefs get lucky breaks and it gets into OT.  Ahman Green fumbles and the next play is like a 60 yard TD bomb.

 

 
I was at that game.  sharper dropped a gimme int that would have been a easy pick 6.  then ahman fumbled at like the 20.  then Jue got toasted on the bomb to end the game. that was a brutal game.
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