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Originally Posted by cuqui:

McGinn's scouting report on Seattle is up:

 

http://www.jsonline.com/sports...342z1-327816741.html

Interesting takeaway from the article regarding Kam. It basically said guys like Wagner and Thomas aren't all that bright but very instinctive and it was Kam who made sure they were in the right spots to make plays.

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I think in one of my posts last year, I wrote that the Packer's offense was going to be unstoppable and one poster even posted an image file of green and gold glasses.

 

There have been times my sense of the Packers was mistakenly biased in a positive direction.

 

That is the best I am going to bother with.

I disagree that this is a "statement" game. That **** is for the fans and message boards.

 

The Packers are perennially one of the youngest teams. That is their strategy-churn the roster to replace "contributors" and find stars who can be signed for full deals while they're still young and improving. That includes a learning curve for both the players and the coordinators.

 

The goal is to get to the playoffs when playing your best ball. There are no guarantees for any team. 68 Colts; Undefeated Pats; Last years Hawks.

The 2010 Packers were not a championship team-until they won it.

Not so much a statement game as an opportunity to exorcise the demons of the Seattle choke job. Psychologically it's important for the team to show they can get over the Seahawk hump just like they had to do with the Cowboys in the '90s.

 

I'm expecting them to play very well and win.

 

Any time you're playing a conference game against another Superb Owl contender it's critical. It doesn't seem as critical because it's early season, but it's possible this game will be a tiebreaker for playoff spots...head to head or just in-conference record. I think we are kind of past the point where we need a "statement game", GB is already considered one of the best teams in the league. A win would only confirm what is already known. If Seattle wins I think it's a statement for them that they can lose so many starters and still beat elite teams.
Originally Posted by phaedrus:

GBFanForLife:
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I think in one of my posts last year, I wrote that the Packer's offense was going to be unstoppable and one poster even posted an image file of green and gold glasses.

 

There have been times my sense of the Packers was mistakenly biased in a positive direction.

 

That is the best I am going to bother with.

 

Too funny phaeds.

 

At least you didn't watch a lifetime of ASU football and proclaim for all the glory that is Carl Bradford, and all the positives he can bring to this team. I still hold to that too. If he got legit playing time he would be a wrecking crew. I'd always be willing to take some lumps with a guy who has shown an ability to make special plays - while he learns, over the lumps you get sticking with a guy who has proven he never will through 4 (or more) years. Where would we be NOW if Dom had taken the chain off of Bradford LAST year, when his 5 year long failed experiment of Brad Jones proved too much to bear?

 

I'm pretty positive. Super positive. Still able to see the negatives and point them out, hopeful that the team gets them cleaned up. 

 

As fans, we're the best at being fanatical... in all the NFL.

Bradford needs to earn playing time. It's quite obvious he hasn't.

 

When you're a young player, you can't just "show up" like Charles Woodson used to do during practice. C-Wood earned the right to "show up" during practice because he was a HOF player during the game.

 

I'm betting Seattle. Hopefully that puts the hex all over them.

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Sorry Boris, you may reign supreme in this little slice of heaven, but you don't carry that kind of stroke in the football universe.  

 

 

I can't come up with a good reason to pick SEA in this game. That on-side attempt to start the OT had an air of desperation to it. 

Originally Posted by Boris:

I'm betting Seattle.

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Originally Posted by Boris:
Originally Posted by PackFoo:

Packers open at -3 over 'Hags

I'm betting Seattle

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Originally Posted by Boris:

I'm going to win a million this week by starting Lynch, Wilson & Graham

 

 

Originally posted by IowaCheese:

 

Jesus ****

 

Practice report up from today:

 

Green Bay — The disheartening blow of losing linebacker Sam Barrington, who was placed on injured reserve with a foot injury, was lessened slightly by the return of Morgan Burnett on Wednesday. 

 

Burnett, a starting safety for the Packers, participated in practice for the first time since the start of the regular season beneath beautifully sunny skies on Clarke Hinkle Field. The calf injury that sidelined him all of last week, and again on Sunday against the Chicago Bears, seems to have healed.

 

Though he wore a black sleeve on his left leg, Burnett did not appear limited by the injury. He took part in all individual and special teams drills during the portion of practice open to the media. 

 

With Burnett back, the Packers had their entire 53-man roster on the practice field Wednesday. Everyone was accounted for and everyone participated. This includes defensive end Datone Jones, back from his one-game suspension for violating the league's substance abuse policy. 

 

The beginning stages of practice offered no indication of what the Packers plan to do at inside linebacker. It is assumed that Nate Palmer, who replaced Barrington against the Bears, will slide into the starting lineup with rookie Jake Ryan filling the No. 3 role. 

 

Other options include shifting Andy Mulumba from outside to inside for certain sub packages or taking a look at Carl Bradford and James Vaughters, two players on the practice squad. http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/327903081.html

 

Good news on Burnett not looking limited at all. I was wondering if they were giving him an extra week knowing they were playing CHI week 1...

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Originally Posted by cuqui:

lol

 

Seattle has a lot to prove in this game.  They know they got their asses kicked the last time these 2 teams played.  Everyone does.

 

Packers have to find a way to stop the run, force the Chickenhawks into passing, and hang a couple more INT's on Russell Wilson.  We need to shake his confidence again, and get the rest of them bickering.

If he got legit playing time he would be a wrecking crew. I'd always be willing to take some lumps with a guy who has shown an ability to make special plays - while he learns, over the lumps you get sticking with a guy who has proven he never will through 4 (or more) years.

It seems to me if they can't make some basic plays nothing else matters.  Teams ruin seasons waiting for guys to get it and reliability is a specialty of its own.   It's easier to develop a game plan around what they know someone can do instead of what they hope someone may do.  

 

There's little time to learn during the season.  The offenses figure it out quick and exploit the weakness until there's no choice but to get the guy off the field.  Players like that have their window in the preseason to show or go home.  After that it's all about fits and which weaknesses they can cover up. 

 

Sometimes it's better to scheme around the player with less downside than rely on a player with more upside.  I'd rather have a player I know does a few things really well than a guy who's all over the place.  One is a part of a scheme, the other screws up the entire play. 

Originally Posted by Pistol GB:

Seattle has a lot to prove in this game.  They know they got their asses kicked the last time these 2 teams played.  Everyone does.

The way I see it, we have more to lose.  They've managed to beat us in their house 3 in a row.  If we win it just brings us somewhat even.  12 has struggled against the Seahawks and Wilson's style is more conductive to success against our defense. 

 

I was surprised how many carries Lacy got last week.  I think they were getting him ready for a workload this week.  Kam did a great job meeting 27 head to head.  I'm betting the Packers think there's a lot more production to be had without Kam and 27 is going to get a bunch of work.      

They have a much tougher division than us.  Its not crazy to think they split with AZ and have already lost to the Rams.  Point being, this game might not have as much impact on the playoffs as we think.  

 

 

Well, there's much trepidation on Sunday. 

 

To be honest, I really am not sure if there's any need, it's a new season. 

 

Stuff and thangs have changed.  Just being a new year, well that makes it reasonable that stuff is no longer stuff.

 

It might be thangs.

 

So Wait. The stuff I was pissed about might have been just a thang.

 

Yup, seriously.

 

So how does this relate to, well anything?

 

Queen Goldie, martyr of the forsaken, has mercy on my soul if this has already been posted.

 

Originally Posted by titmfatied:


       

If he got legit playing time he would be a wrecking crew. I'd always be willing to take some lumps with a guy who has shown an ability to make special plays - while he learns, over the lumps you get sticking with a guy who has proven he never will through 4 (or more) years.
It seems to me if they can't make some basic plays nothing else matters.  Teams ruin seasons waiting for guys to get it and reliability is a specialty of its own.   It's easier to develop a game plan around what they know someone can do instead of what they hope someone may do.

There's little time to learn during the season.  The offenses figure it out quick and exploit the weakness until there's no choice but to get the guy off the field.  Players like that have their window in the preseason to show or go home.  After that it's all about fits and which weaknesses they can cover up.

Sometimes it's better to scheme around the player with less downside than rely on a player with more upside.  I'd rather have a player I know does a few things really well than a guy who's all over the place.  One is a part of a scheme, the other screws up the entire play.


       


Yeah, that's great and all, but you left out the 2nd half of my point. Your preference is to suffer Brad Jones and lose some games rather than give another talent a shot, because, well, this is the NFL, son, and you could lose some games....

Tell me, is Nick Perry "part of the scheme?" If so, is he a goddam decoy?!!!

Give me the guys that make football plays all day. Not posers. Nick Perry will be going up against SEA's weakest link on Sunday in RT Gilliam. If he can't beat that assclown, he can't beat anybody. Those plays that are missed can cost a game. Sometimes you take those lumps with young, untested players you know will bring it. Perry has been missing plays for 4 years... he should be on the shortest of leashes Sunday, because he looked like complete dog **** against CHI.

You would rather keep that on the roster? Count how many games Perry's missed plays have cost us. I can give you one, the Marshawn Lynch TD run in the NFCC game last year. Which one? Oh, how about BOTH of them? Do you think it was a coincidence SEA ran Lynch right at both Barrington and Perry twice for scores in that game? No, they exploited the weakness.

That is my point. Throw playmakers in there over the posers, or over the players who are not performing well. We just lost Barrington to injury. Had he not been injured, that turnstile would remain in  just because he could get everyone lined up? That makes no sense to me. 

 

Now, I do have confidence in Nate Palmer and Jake Ryan. Glad the rook is getting his shot. I think we will see the benefits. And, Palmer looked pretty impressive in TC, even with the club. Both players should be getting a lot of scheme reps this week in practice, specifically for SEA. That will help both players.

 

I'll go this far: I bet we hold Marshawn Lynch to under 100 yds rushing Sunday night.

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