I noticed that about the field too. You'd think at the least that our guys would have adjusted if it's an ongoing problem.
Does anybody know if Greene is on schedule to come off IR this year? Haven't seen or heard one peep as to whether he is done for '19 or has plans on returning.
Henry posted:One other thing. What is with the turf at Lambeau? It seems like guys are slipping all over the place even on perfect weather days.
I meant to comment on this earlier this week and completely forgot.
Phil Simms made similar comments this morning on PFT, saying the Packers need to solve that problem ASAP (paraphrased).
But there has been at least 3 games I've noticed the players slipping. I'm going to assume it's not a shoe problem by this point, so it must be turf-related.
No idea if the synthetic part of the'system' wears out. Perhaps a drainage problem? I don't think it's necessarily weather-related (humidity or rain).
Maybe they need to change the shredded tires or whatever the hell is on that turf.
I'm okay with the shitty turf. I don't think there are many teams with a better run game than us. I'll take slip and slide in the pass game while we run behind Bahk, Jenkins, Bulaga and Mr. Lewis.
It's interesting because they pointed out, during the Panthers game, that the Smiths and KC don't seem to have any problem with slipping. It likely isn't the field because it doesn't seem to be everyone who is falling, probably a change in shoes for some of the players. Some guys just don't want longer spikes, slows them down.
Henry posted:Maybe they need to change the shredded tires or whatever the hell is on that turf.
It performs more like shredded wheat
I think the field issue sticks out due to how well kept Lambeau turf usually is. This ain't Chicago man! Just seems to be a weird quirk this year.
DH13 posted:Does anybody know if Greene is on schedule to come off IR this year? Haven't seen or heard one peep as to whether he is done for '19 or has plans on returning.
Greene went on IR Sept 16, available to return after 8-10 wks. Nov 11 = 8wks. Depending on ankle injury status he may be coming back after bye...
Get off the field on 3rd down... they start doing that, they’ll have a shot at the trophy.
I'm all for a Howard Greene like addition.
GreenBayLA posted:DH13 posted:Does anybody know if Greene is on schedule to come off IR this year? Haven't seen or heard one peep as to whether he is done for '19 or has plans on returning.
Greene went on IR Sept 16, available to return after 8-10 wks. Nov 11 = 8wks. Depending on ankle injury status he may be coming back after bye...
Right but he can practice already. No mention of him anywhere.
Part of the reason for the struggles.
This was 5 weeks ago.
Mike your slip is showing.
GreenBayLA posted:DH13 posted:Does anybody know if Greene is on schedule to come off IR this year? Haven't seen or heard one peep as to whether he is done for '19 or has plans on returning.
Greene went on IR Sept 16, available to return after 8-10 wks. Nov 11 = 8wks. Depending on ankle injury status he may be coming back after bye...
He isn't coming back this year.
The NFL only allows two players to return from IR during the season. Those two spots are already taken by Sternberger and Campbell.
AtTheMurph posted:GreenBayLA posted:DH13 posted:Does anybody know if Greene is on schedule to come off IR this year? Haven't seen or heard one peep as to whether he is done for '19 or has plans on returning.
Greene went on IR Sept 16, available to return after 8-10 wks. Nov 11 = 8wks. Depending on ankle injury status he may be coming back after bye...
He isn't coming back this year.
The NFL only allows two players to return from IR during the season. Those two spots are already taken by Sternberger and Campbell.
Wrong. Campbell came off PUP, not IR.
YATittle posted:AtTheMurph posted:GreenBayLA posted:DH13 posted:Does anybody know if Greene is on schedule to come off IR this year? Haven't seen or heard one peep as to whether he is done for '19 or has plans on returning.
Greene went on IR Sept 16, available to return after 8-10 wks. Nov 11 = 8wks. Depending on ankle injury status he may be coming back after bye...
He isn't coming back this year.
The NFL only allows two players to return from IR during the season. Those two spots are already taken by Sternberger and Campbell.
Wrong. Campbell came off PUP, not IR.
Unnecessary quote.
We see way too many of those.
ammo posted:
We see way too many of those.
Agree.
JimBobDuggar posted:ammo posted:
Agree.
What he said.
And I'm talking to you Ya. You don't get points for quoting.
You can say that again.
Dr._Bob posted:You can say that again.
Say what again?
What the hell, he didn't like what I posted.
I agree with whoever said a week-in-week-out absolutely dominant D is not sustainable for 16 games. Mentally and physically, sustaining a super-high level of play for 16 is just not possible for an offense or defense. We saw this D turn it on when it was needed v Chicago, and then again v Minnesota. The Eagles game was just horrible for defense and offense. Since then, the D has bent but not broken, and has been able to clamp down pretty much when needed. The real test will be when they start the playoffs -- I'd love to see them crank up the intensity and the first- and second-week D return, and I hope that's what the overall goal is.
It doesn't need to be dominant at any time for the team to be successful. It just needs to do enough to keep scoring down which usually entails keeping yards down and turnovers (3rd down stops and TO's) up. They can do that without turning into the 70's Steelers.
When it comes to the high yardage totals and low overall D ranking, Ketchman had a good point. All the yards equate to a lot of time the D is on the field and the O is off it. You want the O to have as many opportunities as possible.
I don't think a 3 and out once a quarter would be too much to ask. And that's really all we need, plus the occasional turnover.
ammo posted:And I'm talking to you Ya. You don't get points for quoting.
I liked your post
The D has kept most teams at 16 or less points. The Packers are going to win a LOT of football games if they keep up that stat
I found a tackling training tape for our D.
Watch how good our O was at tackling after an INT!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...0CDB2EC&index=13
Atlanta dismantled the Panthers today, forced 4 picks. Pressure all day.
Packer D needs to do some real soul searching...
Music City posted:Atlanta dismantled the Panthers today, forced 4 picks. Pressure all day.
Packer D needs to do some real soul searching...
Totally agree. I just don’t see it happening. A good team for sure but not a Super Bowl team in my opinion
Falcons held the Saints to 9 points in New Orleans the prior week.
Last I checked, Packers beat the Panthers. Held them to 16 points....Did the league change that result & I missed it? Packer defense is soo bad they lost the bye.
Pretty easy to say...'They won't win a Super Bowl" you have a 31/32 chance of being right. Congrats.....
You guys are jeeenyouses
Youse guys. Ya der eh?
Tramon Williams today on the #Packers defense: "We gotta look in the mirror at ourselves and do better than we did the first half of the year. We did OK, but we still gave up too many yards. Hopefully we'll get hot when we need to."
— Matt Schneidman (@mattschneidman) November 18, 2019
The defense has hemorrhaged a bit lately, but thank the lord for Gute's work.
Imagine the defense without Zadarius, Preston, and Adrian Amos...arguably 3 of the best players on the defense. Add in Kenny Clark, Jaire, Savage, and a healthy Kevin King and it has the makings of a very solid core. I think they will have some bright moments yet this year. Next year add another big DT and ILB and they are top shelf.
Our defense still has plenty of warts, but could be improved tremendously if they would wrap up tackles at the point of contact.
I've seen dozens and dozens of plays where a 2-3 yard gain turns into a 8-9 yard gain because they either whiff on a tackle, or the runner shakes off an attempt.
I keeping thinking (hoping) that Pettine is holding back some playcalling for late in the season and the playoffs. Maybe we see some more of Gary Rashan. And/or maybe there's just some packages/playcalling they're not ready for.
Wishful hoping.
It's actually hopeful wishing.
BrainDed posted:No.. The big plays last week were
- MCM run where Lowry fell down, just slipped and fell right at the snap, at the point of attack leaving the tackle and guard free to get to the 2nd level.
- Kevin King playing zone while everyone else played man and his guy runs free for a 30 yard gain.
King is lost in zone coverage. Too many bodies get in his way. He is much better suited playing man to man.
I would have liked all of these posts if I liked them all. My likes are for sale.
Some here are talking how we will do in the playoffs. Playoffs??? One game at a time, folks! Let's deal with and beat the 49ers first. Then we can look at our next opponent. Making the playoffs should be a goal but it also should not distract us from what is right in front of us.
