The armadillo ran the wrong route -- he didn't come back for the bullet like brINT thought he would...
quote:Originally posted by Rusty:
He and Chilly were bonding
I don't believe this story.
quote:
Childress explained, via the St. Paul Pioneer-Press:
"We come back through the gate (at Favre's ranch.) Deanna is in the back seat. I'm in the front seat. Brett's driving.
Inconceivable!
One more record to chase, hope he gets it this year
http://www.profootballweekly.c...landas-42-int-season
http://www.profootballweekly.c...landas-42-int-season
quote:Originally posted by emak:
Gotta be tough to be a Favre fan first these days......or at least embarrassing.....
I don't think there are many of those left... Viking fans put up with him just 'cause they have (considering their backup QB situation).
I don't hate the guy as much as many around here, but I'm sick of his diva behavior.
Source: Judd Zulgad - The Minneapolis Star Tribune
Minnesota Vikings owner Zygi Wilf sounds confident QB Brett Favre will return to the team for the 2010 season, reports Judd Zulgad, of the Minneapolis Star Tribune. Wilf said, "Right now he's the starting quarterback of our team. So we're in a good position." Head coach Brad Childress added, "He'll make a decision, and we'll live with it, either way."
The owner of the Vikings must have forgotten his lines. Unlike Childress, he is taking all of the drama out of Favre's "decision".
Minnesota Vikings owner Zygi Wilf sounds confident QB Brett Favre will return to the team for the 2010 season, reports Judd Zulgad, of the Minneapolis Star Tribune. Wilf said, "Right now he's the starting quarterback of our team. So we're in a good position." Head coach Brad Childress added, "He'll make a decision, and we'll live with it, either way."
The owner of the Vikings must have forgotten his lines. Unlike Childress, he is taking all of the drama out of Favre's "decision".
I don't like it when people lie to my face and insult my intelligence (I smoked it, but I didn't inhale for example). I would actually regain a tiny drop of respect for diva boy if he would just admit publicly, "I don't want to attend OTAs and Training Camp, I don't think I need it, I think I'm entitled to skip it, and my coach and teammates agree".
Visiting Viking boards I find an interesting split on this issue. About half think, "Hey, he's under contract, this isn't like last year, he needs to be in camp even if he has to be in rehab."
Hey, Al Harris is in the Packer camp even though he can't even practice.
This will blow up in their face.
At minimum, some are worried about the 14 extra pounds he's carrying around. He's already so much slower as a player, as any of us would be at that age. This weekend I saw the younger Favre help beat the Pats in the Super Bowl, and he was a completely different player!
Hey, Al Harris is in the Packer camp even though he can't even practice.
This will blow up in their face.
At minimum, some are worried about the 14 extra pounds he's carrying around. He's already so much slower as a player, as any of us would be at that age. This weekend I saw the younger Favre help beat the Pats in the Super Bowl, and he was a completely different player!
quote:Originally posted by YATittle:
Visiting Viking boards I find an interesting split on this issue. About half think, "Hey, he's under contract, this isn't like last year, he needs to be in camp even if he has to be in rehab."
I think that is a valid point. Sounds like many of them are starting to see what happens when you have completely different rules for players. Of course, star players will get a little bit different treatment from coaches, but this scenario is absurd.
Maybe it's me being a fool, but I really think he might be done. I hope not, cause I want to see him get CRUSHED!!!!!!!
I'm with you, PackerRuss. I want him to lose in Lambeau during the regular season, and I want Capers to dial up a blitz that makes what the Saints D did in the NFCC game look like a day in the park.
quote:I want Capers to dial up a blitz that makes what the Saints D did in the NFCC game look like a day in the park.
oh please, please, please let this be so - it's all I want. hell, it's what I wanted last year and I couldn't believe they sat back, both times, and tried to cover. Everyone knows Favre, well darn near any QB, sucks when pressured. You have to get to him and he will get the ball to you. And you know he ain't gonna run it so get AFTER HIM!!
What's worse? Letting a QB pick you apart in your attempt to cover all his receiving options, or sending extra guys to rush and leaving yourself vulnerable to the big play? I'll take the latter when playing brent, thank you.
Yeah Capers played the bend but don't break defense against both the queens and the Cards and they got torched for around a dozen touchdowns and probably over 1000 yards. Go up to 16 or so TDs and 1500 yards if you add the game against Pitt, but at least they got heat on Rottenberger.
I'm not Capers' biggest fan but I think you guys presume a lot to think it didn't occur to him to blitz the hell out of Favre. Sometimes blitzing gets you beat, too. The Saints' approach paid off in the end, but I doubt they drew it up that Minnesota would put up close to 500 yards of offense (or whatever it was) and screw up in the final seconds (both an idiotic penalty and INT when arguably in game-winning field goal range) to barely win in overtime at home.
Guess what I'm saying is that New Orleans' approach really wasn't that much more effective against the Vikings offense than any other team's, beyond getting Favre knocked around a lot (which I realize is enough for most here). I don't think you can rely on the Harvin, Berrian and Peterson fumbles every week. Without those miscues nobody's talking about how great the Saints' defensive game plan was. I think they need to figure out a way to force the Vikings to punt, not move up and down the field and put up 28 points (but fumble and intercept a win away).
Guess what I'm saying is that New Orleans' approach really wasn't that much more effective against the Vikings offense than any other team's, beyond getting Favre knocked around a lot (which I realize is enough for most here). I don't think you can rely on the Harvin, Berrian and Peterson fumbles every week. Without those miscues nobody's talking about how great the Saints' defensive game plan was. I think they need to figure out a way to force the Vikings to punt, not move up and down the field and put up 28 points (but fumble and intercept a win away).
Just because the Saints won doesn't mean their game plan was correct. You get rid of the Favre/Peterson fumble inside the 5, for which the Saints did nothing to force, and suddenly the Saints defense gives up 35 points. That's no better than the Packers did against the Vikings. A little luck and a great offense is what saved the Saints.
IMO, the Packers problem was getting off the field on defense. The Vikings converted a lot of 3rd downs. This is obviously a combination of things but to say that Capers needs to "bring the house" to beat up Favre is a bit too simplistic. There is a lot more that goes into a game plan than simplt bringing the house to beat up Favre.
Blitzing a QB with your top 4-5 DBs on the field is one thing, biltzing when you are playing your 5th or 6th CB is something completely different.
Good points on the Saints, but the only thing I'd say is this...
If you're gonna lose, I'd MUCH rather lose being aggressive and pounding the crap out of the human turnover machine vs. sitting back and letting him pick us apart. Remember that freaking play where he had literally 7+ seconds?
Great QB's pick that apart eventually. We can succeed with that bend/don't break style vs average ones, but it doesn't generally work against the great ones. At least mix it up a bit more often.
All of which will be fixed if our front 3+ can get some pressure without resorting to all out blitzes too often...
If you're gonna lose, I'd MUCH rather lose being aggressive and pounding the crap out of the human turnover machine vs. sitting back and letting him pick us apart. Remember that freaking play where he had literally 7+ seconds?
Great QB's pick that apart eventually. We can succeed with that bend/don't break style vs average ones, but it doesn't generally work against the great ones. At least mix it up a bit more often.
All of which will be fixed if our front 3+ can get some pressure without resorting to all out blitzes too often...
I agree on being aggressive versus sitting back and seeing what happens. But I think it was Kurt Warner that said he'd rather be blitzed than just rushed with 4 defenders. When blitzed, he knew someone was open and the great QB's know how to find that open man. Of course great QB's are also great at standing in the pocket and waiting all day for a play to develop.
I guess the moral of this story is that the Packers need to get pressure on the QB with just 4 guys. Let's hope Capers and the Packers defense are up to the task.
I guess the moral of this story is that the Packers need to get pressure on the QB with just 4 guys. Let's hope Capers and the Packers defense are up to the task.
Well, whatever they came up with it didn't work. They didn't get pressure on either Warner or Favre and they got lit up. I don't think they knocked Favre down once and they only managed the 1 sack on Warner where Matthews knocked the ball out of his hand. The Bears, Saints, Panthers and Cardinals all hit Favre often. I don't think the saints even registered a sack but they did hit him frequently.
I just find it hard to fathom that in two complete ball games you can't come up with some wrinkle/strategy/surprise that gets you at least 2 or 3 cracks at the QB. Especially early in the game so the worry is there - hell, even if it costs you a TD early. Of course, all this is hindsight, but ya gotta hit the guy.
Same here, but I want us to be cleaner. The Saints that day were borderline dirty IMO (not that I felt even a bit sorry for the guy).quote:Originally posted by YATittle:
I'm with you, PackerRuss. I want him to lose in Lambeau during the regular season, and I want Capers to dial up a blitz that makes what the Saints D did in the NFCC game look like a day in the park.
quote:Same here, but I want us to be cleaner. The Saints that day were borderline dirty IMO (not that I felt even a bit sorry for the guy).
Clean is nice, but I'd rather have the Super Bowl title.
AR got little or no sympathy after the helmet-helmet hit which was worse than the hit on brent.
quote:Originally posted by Tdog:quote:I want Capers to dial up a blitz that makes what the Saints D did in the NFCC game look like a day in the park.
oh please, please, please let this be so - it's all I want. hell, it's what I wanted last year and I couldn't believe they sat back, both times, and tried to cover. Everyone knows Favre, well darn near any QB, sucks when pressured. You have to get to him and he will get the ball to you. And you know he ain't gonna run it so get AFTER HIM!!
What's worse? Letting a QB pick you apart in your attempt to cover all his receiving options, or sending extra guys to rush and leaving yourself vulnerable to the big play? I'll take the latter when playing brent, thank you.
Yes, this would be ideal. But in fairness to our Defense last year, it was stated that it would take 8 weeks for the new 3-4 to be fully implemented and working to our advantage. And, of course, the scheduling was so biased toward the @#$@! Vikes that we played them TWICE in the first 7 weeks. Perhaps had we had a chance at them later in the season?? Who Knows?? But I hope his higness Brint gets smashed all over Lambeau field.
The icing on the blitzing cake is when the QB finds the open guy (due to overloading the blitz) and gets rid of the ball, which Warner and Favre are masters at, you can't hit him either. IOW, a good QB who beats the blitz with a quick strike is also a QB with a clean jersey.
quote:Originally posted by ZUF:quote:Same here, but I want us to be cleaner. The Saints that day were borderline dirty IMO (not that I felt even a bit sorry for the guy).
Clean is nice, but I'd rather have the Super Bowl title.
AR got little or no sympathy after the helmet-helmet hit which was worse than the hit on brent.
Sure, but I don’t think we need to be dirty to win it. But if it takes that, the choice is obvious.
quote:Yes, this would be ideal. But in fairness to our Defense last year, it was stated that it would take 8 weeks for the new 3-4 to be fully implemented and working to our advantage. And, of course, the scheduling was so biased toward the @#$@! Vikes that we played them TWICE in the first 7 weeks.
Thanks for the reminder, I kinda forgot that. Oh well, no excuses this year.
The First, Foremost, and Ultimately the ONLY THING THAT EVER MATTERED is this.
Today is the last day of practice at Mankato. Friday is walk through in prep of preseason game this weekend. Following that, they had back to Minneapolis. No more dorms. No more two a days. No more fraternizing with the "lesser" players.
Again, to be perfectly clear. Favre doesn't want to hang with the riff raff in the dorms busting his ass sweating in the Mankato sun. Period. He didn't in 2008 when he forced the trade. He didn't in 2009 when he flip flopped in late July, August, and used the bicep as an excuse. He did it again this year with the flip flop in August, and the ankle.
He doesn't need to practice. He's above sleeping in dorms.
He is not "a kid out there having fun". He is not playing "for the love of the game".
He's a selfish prima donna prick that puts himself above the team and doesn't give a rip to prepare for the season in any way other than throwing balls to high school kids in Cletusville MS.
But, can't wait for FAVRESPN to tell us again how much he loves the game and is a kid, blah blah blah.
Today is the last day of practice at Mankato. Friday is walk through in prep of preseason game this weekend. Following that, they had back to Minneapolis. No more dorms. No more two a days. No more fraternizing with the "lesser" players.
Again, to be perfectly clear. Favre doesn't want to hang with the riff raff in the dorms busting his ass sweating in the Mankato sun. Period. He didn't in 2008 when he forced the trade. He didn't in 2009 when he flip flopped in late July, August, and used the bicep as an excuse. He did it again this year with the flip flop in August, and the ankle.
He doesn't need to practice. He's above sleeping in dorms.
He is not "a kid out there having fun". He is not playing "for the love of the game".
He's a selfish prima donna prick that puts himself above the team and doesn't give a rip to prepare for the season in any way other than throwing balls to high school kids in Cletusville MS.
But, can't wait for FAVRESPN to tell us again how much he loves the game and is a kid, blah blah blah.
I've been to Mankato, Mankato sucks.
quote:Originally posted by CAPackFan95:
, blah blah blah.
What's your expected Favre return date? I'll throw my hat in the ring and say he sets foot in practice on 8/18. I may be going too early.. but hey that's my prediction.
And also, I pretty much agree with everything you say.
from Boris' link:
I beg to differ on the honest part...
quote:"He is an emotional guy. He does tell you how he's feeling. He is very honest," Bevell said.
I beg to differ on the honest part...
This may be a little late, but I say he'll report on 8/23.
And personally, if I were a viking receiver, I'd be a little insulted that The Great One would rather throw to a bunch of high school kids than to his own people. I thought he loved his teammates so much?
And personally, if I were a viking receiver, I'd be a little insulted that The Great One would rather throw to a bunch of high school kids than to his own people. I thought he loved his teammates so much?
quote:I thought he loved his teammates so much?
no, he loves that they love him. there is no reciprocation. me me me, repeat.
Back to monitoring plane traffic.
Yep.
Following the script alright.
Yep.
Following the script alright.
quote:Originally posted by CAPackFan95:
The First, Foremost, and Ultimately the ONLY THING THAT EVER MATTERED is this.
Today is the last day of practice at Mankato. Friday is walk through in prep of preseason game this weekend. Following that, they had back to Minneapolis. No more dorms. No more two a days. No more fraternizing with the "lesser" players.
Again, to be perfectly clear. Favre doesn't want to hang with the riff raff in the dorms busting his ass sweating in the Mankato sun. Period. He didn't in 2008 when he forced the trade. He didn't in 2009 when he flip flopped in late July, August, and used the bicep as an excuse. He did it again this year with the flip flop in August, and the ankle.
He doesn't need to practice. He's above sleeping in dorms.
He is not "a kid out there having fun". He is not playing "for the love of the game".
He's a selfish prima donna prick that puts himself above the team and doesn't give a rip to prepare for the season in any way other than throwing balls to high school kids in Cletusville MS.
But, can't wait for FAVRESPN to tell us again how much he loves the game and is a kid, blah blah blah.
Friday the 13th is inching ever closer....
He needs to get in and prepare (practice?) for a little while before he starts game #2 of the pre-season. That way he'll have 2 weeks to prepare for playing a half of football in pre-season game #3. He won't play this weekend.