At the height of the Rodgers discontent the mainstream discourse was full of “what the hell is Gute doing”- at both QB and WR. 2 years later his approach at both have paid off immensely. $10 mil WR room that can still function if any individual gets hurt and a new franchise QB. https://t.co/Z1AloirOUC
— Jennifer Kirton (@JenKtn) April 3, 2024
@michiganjoe posted:At the height of the Rodgers discontent the mainstream discourse was full of “what the hell is Gute doing”- at both QB and WR. 2 years later his approach at both have paid off immensely. $10 mil WR room that can still function if any individual gets hurt and a new franchise QB. https://t.co/Z1AloirOUC
— Jennifer Kirton (@JenKtn) April 3, 2024
AND MLF and staff did a helluva job coaching and bringing the ‘kids’ up to NFL speed.
Let's see if they can get off to a better start this year. October 2023 was not fun
Stefon Diggs will count $31 million on the Bills Cap.
— Andrew Brandt (@AndrewBrandt) April 3, 2024
The Packers 9 WRs will count $11 million on the Packers Cap.
The Bills are going to copy the Packers approach. Nothing but young receivers.
Their receiver scouts aren't good enough to match the Packers.
The last good receiver they have drafted is Andre Reed
Andre Reed?😂
@michiganjoe posted:Stefon Diggs will count $31 million on the Bills Cap.
— Andrew Brandt (@AndrewBrandt) April 3, 2024
The Packers 9 WRs will count $11 million on the Packers Cap.
— Boris at Timesfour (@x4_Packers) April 4, 2024
@Packiderm posted:would have drunk all the beer in training camp!
There was a time where that was training camp.
@michiganjoe posted:Stefon Diggs will count $31 million on the Bills Cap.
— Andrew Brandt (@AndrewBrandt) April 3, 2024
The Packers 9 WRs will count $11 million on the Packers Cap.
DC's are gonna rotate there coverage to Diggs when they face the Bills.
When they face the Packers ...
Crusher's going to throw his back out doing that.
In this photo, it looks like he's had a few vertebrae fused.
Rub some dirt on it and get back on the pickleball court, ya wimp!
via Bill Huber at SI, comments from former GM Mark Dominik
https://www.si.com/nfl/packers...inik-brian-gutekunst
“I look at their depth chart and say it's in pretty good shape,” former NFL general manager Mark Dominik told Packer Central . “Gutey has done such a good job of putting so much young talent around a young quarterback.”
“I think this is a team that, go be aggressive,” he said about the Packers. “Go get yourself another corner, go get yourself maybe one more speedier linebacker, that kind of thing. "
“But I don't think you have a lot of needs. I think you can take an interior offensive linemen and certainly tackle. I think you can, obviously, take another corner and then I think you can go back and try to get one more rusher. You walk out of the draft with five guys, you're feeling really good. But this is a good roster and a good job by Gutey over the last couple of years to be hitting on these.”
5 guys.
Just go find 5 guys, and Superb Owl.
Nor that big of an ask when you have 5 picks in the first 91. 6 in 126.
Hoping he trades down and into next season too. 2025 = Draft is in Green Bay!😃
If he trades up, I hope it's really far up for a premier LT
I want to go to the draft next year. I'm hoping they don't decide everyone is going to want to go and have it be the first year they start charging.
The draft is a free event.... And it's boring. If they start charging, nobody will show up and they know it.
Boris, are you coming to GB for the draft next year?
Yes. I'm concerned half the planet is going to be there.
Meat at Prime Quarter BOSS? We ain't taking Coach this time!
Lol. Definitely
@Boris posted:Yes. I'm concerned half the planet is going to be there.
Depends on which half.
@Iowacheese posted:Depends on which half.
Think about how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half of them are even dumber than that
- George Carlin
Ron and Ted taught BG well and he's continuing their legacy in Titletown
Gute talked about how they are now ( slowly) layering in the analytics data while staying true to their scouting roots ( boots on the ground)
The pencil-necked analytics geeks certainly have something to offer, but at the end of the day scouting is still a human-derived endeavor.
One more comment on Gute:
When they asked him about use of the S2 cognition tests, he said they don't use them so much for deciding WHO to pick, but rather for HOW each guy learns so they can give them the support they need once they're in the building.
@Boris posted:Their receiver scouts aren't good enough to match the Packers.
The last good receiver they have drafted is Andre Reed
Eric Moulds was good. Every other year anyway.
That last comment is brilliant.
more from Gute:
"I think you have to be very careful of falling too in love with individual players.
I think you have to be careful of that. I think you have to think of these things as not emotionally, but just, hey, we do a lot of work to get the value right. "
BG also talked about how each of the scouts has their favorites and how deflating it is for young scouts when those guys get picked ahead of the Packers turn.
He said he's actually OK seeing the scouts' dream get crushed, because its all part of becoming a dispassionate, unemotional, value-chasing personnel guy on draft weekend
Steely eyed assassin....
@Satori posted:One more comment on Gute:
When they asked him about use of the S2 cognition tests, he said they don't use them so much for deciding WHO to pick, but rather for HOW each guy learns so they can give them the support they need once they're in the building.
Rashaan Gary
People not robots
We don’t talk enough about how the Packers got CRUSHED in the moment for passing on Derwin James, then got Jaire Alexander AND a future first. https://t.co/uur9DVfoCd
— Peter Bukowski (@Peter_Bukowski) April 22, 2024
NFL Draft superlatives since 2000 via CBS
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/...lass-clown-and-more/
Best drafting team overall:
The Mighty Green Bay Packers
"The Packers have been the best drafting team since 2000, leading the NFL in AV generated among draft picks in that span. They consistently had among the most homegrown players in the NFL during former GM Ted Thompson's run from 2005-17. And no matter who the GM has been (Thompson or Brian Gutekunst), they've had the best QB succession plan in NFL history, drafting Aaron Rodgers in 2005 and Jordan Love in 2020, despite having an all-time great QB already on the roster. When Green Bay isn't drafting its next superstar QB, its nailing a wide receiver in the second round. Here's the last six: Jayden Reed, Christian Watson, Davante Adams, Randall Cobb, Jordy Nelson and Greg Jennings. The Packers set NFL receiving records for first-or-second-year players in 2023 and have plenty of ammunition in the form of five picks in the first three rounds if they want to give Jordan Love more weapons. "
@Satori posted:NFL Draft superlatives since 2000 via CBS
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/...lass-clown-and-more/
Best drafting team overall:
The Mighty Green Bay Packers"The Packers have been the best drafting team since 2000, leading the NFL in AV generated among draft picks in that span. They consistently had among the most homegrown players in the NFL during former GM Ted Thompson's run from 2005-17. And no matter who the GM has been (Thompson or Brian Gutekunst), they've had the best QB succession plan in NFL history, drafting Aaron Rodgers in 2005 and Jordan Love in 2020, despite having an all-time great QB already on the roster. When Green Bay isn't drafting its next superstar QB, its nailing a wide receiver in the second round. Here's the last six: Jayden Reed, Christian Watson, Davante Adams, Randall Cobb, Jordy Nelson and Greg Jennings. The Packers set NFL receiving records for first-or-second-year players in 2023 and have plenty of ammunition in the form of five picks in the first three rounds if they want to give Jordan Love more weapons. "
We do what we do. ™
Many others have pointed out it also helps in this instance that GB has no owner. There is no blowhard like a Dan Synder, Jerry Jones, Jim Irsay, etc getting in either Brian's ear or before that Ted and demanding he takes X or Y player.
Very few owners would have thought it was fine to take Aaron Rodgers in '05 (23 teams passed on him) or Jordan Love. The Packers selected a QB in round 1 who then marinated for 3 years. Again, even if an owner ok'ed the move, how many would have been fine letting a 1st round pick sit for 3 years?
The Packers also don't draft WR's in round 1 either. How many teams do that? Virtually none.
They are a very patient, no panic organization in a league where everyone wants to win right now. And for the most part, it not only works, but works extremely well.