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Packers not expected to select linebacker early in draft Matt Miller says that TT doesn't feel that ILB is a very important position.
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Inside linebacker not imporant? Is that a joke? He needs to watch Carolina, where decent ILBs cover up other deficiencies....
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I think that's a pretty safe assumption considering his track record. He has more history taking UDFA OLBs and undersized DEs for conversion projects.
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My money is on a D-Tackle or edge rusher. TT has said he's fond of big bodies early and shown pass rushers and secondary defenders also. There are a few interesting TEs at the Senior Bowl who could be awfully tempting in Round3, maybe even 2.
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His premise that Ted doesn't value the ILB position as highly as some others is certainly hard to argue. He hasn’t spent an R1-3 pick on the spot in ten years. Hopefully a decade of mediocre play at what the rest of the league views as a premier position has changed his thinking some. My favorite part of the Miller video was that “Thompson” doesn’t hang on to his players. Is there a GM in the league with a better track record at this? Doesn’t he do this to a fault according to the masses...
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It's both, really, with TT's system because every schlub he dumps is someone he picked and every Hawkstiff he keeps is also his pick. It's awfully hard to dump a guy you didn't sign in the first place.
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I agree, but they are much more than decent. Thomas Davis is a Pro Bowl level player and Luke Kuechly is on track to be a Hall of Famer (DROY and a defensive player of the year award in his first 4 years).
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This guy also: - mentions the Packers don't do a good job retaining their own. - says they need CB help because they are likely to lose Hayward. - says they need OLB help because Peppers is getting old - doesn't mention what they have or the young FA's (Neal & Perry) they could retain. - mentions they need OL help specifically at G and OT. I think this guy got some of these right.
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I think if history tells us anything: 1. Thompson doesn't have patterns. He lives and dies by the board. If the board offers what he needs then he takes it, if it doesn't then he trades. If the best player available is an ILB then he will take him. 2. Draft "gurus" outside of the big boys like Mayock are generally wrong...especially this far from the draft. We haven't finished the Senior Bowl, so I doubt the Packers board is close to finished.
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Seems TT would rather have early down run stuffer ilb and then let a sub package player come in for passing downs. Not saying it's right or wrong, just seems to be the way they do things.
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It's odd that a ten year NFL backup linebacker wouldn't have better read on linebackers.
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Ted wasn't a starter though right? I thought he was basically the high effort, scrappy STs player...basically the Jarrett Bush or the Chris Banjo for his team. Maybe he's looking for LBs who are just like him: backups.
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To be fair, Hawk was initially drafted as a 4-3 WLB, where he was also a stiff.
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I never thought he was a stiff in the 43. I thought he had his best seasons in that role. The defense overall was suspect, especially in 2008, but he was actually one of the solid players on that D. He's a perfect example of how not all LBs are created equal...just because you're 6'2"/240 like Hawk doesn't mean you make a good ILB in a 34. Some guys are better suited for certain schemes, Hawk was brutally out of place.
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Hawk was brutal. At the end. He was a solid player at first and probably doesn't get the credit he deserves (at least from me) for being a good player for awhile. It was just that he was so bad (and so damn bad) at the end, it overshadows much of his accomplishments. He should not have been on the field.
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Hawk is a huge reason why I ignore measurables at the combine for ILBs. Take a look at the two sets of stats below from pro day/combines. Size: 6' 1" 248 lbs 6' 3" 242 lbs 40 yd dash: 4.59 4.58 10 yd split: 1.56 1.63 20 yd shuttle: 3.96 4.12 3 cone: 6.82 6.92 Broadjump: 9' 7" 10' 3" Vert: 40 in 38.1 in Bench: 24 reps 27 reps First is Hawk, second is Luke Kuechly. Yeah, measurables on an ILB mean ****. Instincts are everything at that position.
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How important are instincts? Denzel Perryman, who I thought had the best instincts in the draft, missed 3 games this year and still would have led all Packers ILBs in Tackles and Sacks. That's not to say I'm criticising TT for not getting Perryman, but he just can't seem to find a guy who knows how to play ILB. Get a LB who knows how to play LB.
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Neat trick. Now pick 2 ILBers projected in the 2nd round of the upcoming draft & tell us which one will be merely adequate & which one will be a stud.
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They only need to be funnier than your attempts at humor, which isn't saying much.
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We are protected by the enormity of your stupidity, for a time.
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Antonio Morrisson and Joe Schobert will be studs. Scooby Wright will be a dud. Mark it down.
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Hawk showed outstanding athletic ability at Ohio State and when he first came to Green Bay. The groin injury he had in 2008 seemed to be a big blow to his career...he never ran the same after that.
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I call this the one-name special: 27: R1P27 ILB REGGIE RAGLAND ALABAMA 57: R2P26 OT JASON SPRIGGS INDIANA 88: R3P25 TE AUSTIN HOOPER STANFORD 122: R4P27 DT HASSAN RIDGEWAY TEXAS 151: R5P24 OLB JOE SCHOBERT WISCONSIN 182: R6P25 CB ERIC MURRAY MINNESOTA 216: R7P27 G PARKER EHINGER CINCINNATI
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I like this kid in mid rounds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4eLC2APXRc
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I need a towel now. Tyler Ervin is a younger James Starks. One cut, not much wiggle, upright runner, solid speed.
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I see Ervin as smaller, more elusive , & more explosive than Starks.