@antooo posted:Yup, and a hat tip to the Vikes for trading the 34th pick to the Packers.
Wouldn't have gotten him without the help of those chattering rubes.
Yeah, no hat tip from me. Those Rubes would not allow the Packers to get Watson, in the 1st Round, because they did not want GB to have a 5th year option with Watson. I never want to have to thank the fricking vikings for anything. Don't get me wrong, I love Watson. The vikings, not so much.
I'm getting a 'Sideshow Bob' vibe.
Muffin top 2023.
That's what Stormy said.
Interesting read.
@YATittle posted:Interesting read.
Those stats of his are insane. Sure glad he’s a Packer. Now for it all to come together eh?? ❤️ 💚 💛
@YATittle posted:Interesting read.
Just hope the knees stay healthy.
Healthy! Winning!!!
Watson will get double covered after teams watch his tape, from last season. He can outrun the coverage, to get open or 10 can find the other open receiver(s) to throw to. Doubs, Reed, Toure or whomever is open, should benefit from Watson's speed and his being double covered. Move them chains. Score them TDs! Win them games! Nothing to it!
Thems the truth.
The NFL has seen plenty of “speed guys” at WR who were nothing more than a JAG. If Watson isn’t a sharp route runner at short and intermediate passes (along with hanging on to the ball), it won’t matter too much. The DB will just give him a cushion and not let him fly past.
So everything he did his rookie year was just a fluke?
Nope, but he can’t be just be a fast, deep route runner. And I don’t expect him to be just that.
Most of what he did as a rookie was, yes, just using his speed. That's one trick that defenses can easily adjust to. Now it's up to him to develop his route running skills. What is sure to benefit him is the fact the offense has other WR's and RB's who look like they'll be adept at working the shorter and intermediate depths of the route trees. If nothing else, if those guys are effective, it will open up more "go" opportunities for Watson. At best, Watson will develop the ability to do more than that.
He had very little training camp last year.
CW was listed at 6'4" 207 as a rookie. I'll assume he added some beef to his frame this past offseason. I saw nothing on his college tape or his rookie season to think he can't run solid routes. Adding a little upper body strength to that speed should give him a physical chance at a release in press coverage, then the jets kick in.
Just like we saw with the TD vs PHI off that short crossing route. He was quite open at the catch.
Maybe all they could do effectively, with prince Rodgers not doing anything with the rookies in camp, is use speed and simple routes.
No last second hand signals this year. What will the coaches do for fun now that “what the fuck was that” bets are off the table?
The question is does Etling or Clifford teach the hand signals now?
Watson’s over/under for TDs is at 4.5 this year in Vegas, which is probably about right. Last year was a statistical aberration and QB this year likely to be major factors as well as fewer free rides from defenses.
@Herschel posted:The question is does Etling or Clifford teach the hand signals now?
Watson’s over/under for TDs is at 4.5 this year in Vegas, which is probably about right. Last year was a statistical aberration and QB this year likely to be major factors as well as fewer free rides from defenses.
You were wrong about him last year too.😉
His potential is through the roof, less than 5 TD's would mean problems physically
@Goalline posted:You were wrong about him last year too.😉
it’s not my prediction, unless I’m somehow an amalgam of Vegas oddsmakers, but it makes sense with a minimum of math.
Loves’s over/under is 21.5 TD passes. Let’s say even 22-25. Jones will likely have 4-5 TD catches, as well. Each catching 5 is 40% of Love’s TD passes if he exceeds the odds. A couple for Dillon, a few for Doubs, that’s now around 15. The TEs as group, let’s say maybe 5. Toure and Reed each catching one and he’s hit the over.
And that’s if nobody else catches one. At least one more back and a couple of receivers have a chance to grab a couple along the way.
Last year’s TD stats were a statistical aberration and Vegas isn’t having it. His game is still rough and he’ll have a first-time starting QB. He’s also developed a propensity to miss some time with injuries.
2024 is much more likely to be a “breakout” type of year.
Mike McCarthy once said ‘statistics are for losers.’
"Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything, Kent. 14% of people know that" Homer Simpson
I just hope he's learned how to fall/go down without getting rung up
@Goalline posted:You just agreed with them. In my world that means you do not expect him to exceed that. WRONG!
If their over/under on Love is about right, then odds are the over/under on Watson is fair. That doesn’t mean statistical anomalies don’t happen, like last year, but it also doesn’t make predictions unfair or improbable.
Something else to consider:
It's my hope that the receivers, as a group, can stress defenses enough to force coverage errors.
Just a moment's hesitation from a DB, whether he gets caught looking in the backfield, or a S cheating too far to one side of the field, and Watson will blow by him before he can blink.
I trust MLF's offense can generate enough of that.
@GBFanForLife posted:So everything he did his rookie year was just a fluke?
That's kind of what I'm gathering by reading these posts. He had a typical rookie year for a raw rookie with incredible potential - struggling at the start with injuries and missing training camp but finished the last 8 games with 31 catches for 523 yards and 7 TDs, plus 61 rushing yards and a TD. I'm very optimistic about Watson this year based on the end of 2022.
@PackLandVA posted:Nope, but he can’t be just be a fast, deep route runner. And I don’t expect him to be just that.
Totally disagree that Watson's rookie year showed he was just a fast, deep route runner. Watson's rookie year - I see two deep plays here. He actually does nearly all his damage within 15 yards of the LOS, using his athleticism to run after the catch. It'd be better to say he's more of a RAC guy than a deep threat. I actually think he showed he can do everything, that he can score from anywhere. He just needs more consistency and to improve his route running but you could say that about every 2nd year WR in the league.
CUPackFan - you are 100% correct. Nice take.
Can you take his numbers from his last 8 games and basically double it?
Shirley, you jest.
Stop calling me Shirley....
@CUPackFan posted:Totally disagree that Watson's rookie year showed he was just a fast, deep route runner. Watson's rookie year - I see two deep plays here. He actually does nearly all his damage within 15 yards of the LOS, using his athleticism to run after the catch. It'd be better to say he's more of a RAC guy than a deep threat. I actually think he showed he can do everything, that he can score from anywhere. He just needs more consistency and to improve his route running but you could say that about every 2nd year WR in the league.
Hard not to be excited about this kid. He has crazy athleticism.
