Probably a QB and a WR.
Can't believe the Saint would pick this year to get a QB. Seems like all these guys would be second rounds picks in just about any other draft I'm not usually one to punt on drafting a QB high if you need one but this year reminds me of the EJ Manuel/Geno Smith year. Just put a bandaid on QB for 2022 and draft one in 2023. But hey, good for the Packers if another NFC team drafts a QB high and they waste 2-3 years before realizing it.
Adrian Amos the last two seasons:
88.7 PFF Grade (1st among Safeties)
92.4 Coverage Grade (1st)
17 forced incompletions (t-1st)
Haha made me laugh. He was so bad after that impressive start.
@michiganjoe posted:
I have to find a way to make a living out of saying stupid shit. Right now, I'm not getting paid.
I loved the Amos signing when it happened. That offseason proved to be damn good, signing Z Smith, P Smith, Amos, and Turner. All exceeded their contracts with the only exception being Z Smith's injury last year (but he was all-pro the two years before).
Hope they bring Amos back, especially if Savage doesn't take that next step. May be tough though, as Amos has a $8m cap hit next year after his contract expires (due to voidable years).
@Harry Manback posted:I have to find a way to make a living out of saying stupid shit. Right now, I'm not getting paid.
Buck and ACHE_man are making millions. Jump on the band wagon!
@"We"-Ka-Bong posted:I guess I can justify using the best wide receiver in the game as a security blanket
Aint nobody arguing with that. The point is to focus more on WRs than on TEs for that very reason.
Re rumbles of discontent from Deebo, AJ Brown: I get it; they see the uptick in the WR marketplace and want in.
— Andrew Brandt (@AndrewBrandt) April 19, 2022
The problem is unlike those players, they are stuck on undervalued rookie contracts; the teams have all the leverage.
NFL rookie pay system is gift that keep on giving.
Samuel wants out..
Among the teams to consider as the trade market for Deebo Samuel heats up: The #Jets, the #Packers, the #Chiefs, the #Lions… and, I assume, most other teams who like really good players. https://t.co/onrd55k3s3
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) April 20, 2022
Unless GB is willing to give up a lot, I can't imagine the Whiners trading him to an NFC rival who is a SB contender. Much more likely they'd ship him to the Jets or Chiefs.
What would you give to get him. A first , two firsts, a first and a second. Just asking.
@The Grinder posted:What would you give to get him. A first , two firsts, a first and a second. Just asking.
I don't think SF will trade him at all, but, I'd give up 2 1st's for Deebo. Dude can straight up play football.
@Thunderbird posted:I don't think SF will trade him at all, but, I'd give up 2 1st's for Deebo. Dude can straight up play football.
Depends on what his contract demands are. My guess is that his trade demand isn't so much that he wants out of SF, but that he wants Adams/Tyreke Hill/Diggs money (around 30 million a year) and SF probably is thinking in the low 20s for an annual salary.
The biggest problem with Samuel is that until last year he's had trouble staying healthy. He missed most of his redshirt freshman season in college with a hamstring injury (2015), had a good year in 2016, and then missed all but three games in 2017 after he broke his leg and then hurt his foot in rehab. He was healthy in 2018.
He had a good, but not earth shattering rookie year in the NFL in 2019, and then missed a large part of 2020 after breaking his foot in preseason. He was elite in 2021.
I get why it's critical that Samuel wants to get paid now. He's missed large parts of 3 of the last 7 years with injuries. Guys who are injury-prone generally don't get less injury-prone as they age.
The same reason it's important for him to get his money is the reason why the Niners (and other teams) don't want to sink something like 5 years and 125 million into a contract for him. He's very likely to miss significant time. Especially if he gets 60 touches at RB.
If he's traded, it will be to some team that is desperate. I'm guessing the Jets fit the bill.
“The biggest problem with Samuel is that until last year he's had trouble staying healthy. He missed most of his redshirt freshman season in college with a hamstring injury (2015), had a good year in 2016, and then missed all but three games in 2017 after he broke his leg and then hurt his foot in rehab. He was healthy in 2018.
He had a good, but not earth shattering rookie year in the NFL in 2019, and then missed a large part of 2020 after breaking his foot in preseason. He was elite in 2021.
I get why it's critical that Samuel wants to get paid now. He's missed large parts of 3 of the last 7 years with injuries. Guys who are injury-prone generally don't get less injury-prone as they age.”
👆🏻 ugh, here, right here is why I don’t want him…….JMHO.
@Goldie posted:“The biggest problem with Samuel is that until last year he's had trouble staying healthy. He missed most of his redshirt freshman season in college with a hamstring injury (2015), had a good year in 2016, and then missed all but three games in 2017 after he broke his leg and then hurt his foot in rehab. He was healthy in 2018.
He had a good, but not earth shattering rookie year in the NFL in 2019, and then missed a large part of 2020 after breaking his foot in preseason. He was elite in 2021.
I get why it's critical that Samuel wants to get paid now. He's missed large parts of 3 of the last 7 years with injuries. Guys who are injury-prone generally don't get less injury-prone as they age.”
👆🏻 ugh, here, right here is why I don’t want him…….JMHO.
Agree. Too much risk to pay the big money plus give away high draft pics considering his injury history.
If the Packers were unwilling to pay Adams beyond the franchise tag, why would they be willing to pat Deebo while giving up, most likely, several high draft picks. Same can be said about Metcalf.
With AR taking up a significant amount of cap space, and the premium the Packers are paying for Aaron Jones, I doubt they want to pay $20+ million/year for WR.
Hard pass on Deebo.
This Packers WR room of Deebo Samuel, Terry McLaurin, DK Metcalf, A.J. Brown, Allen Lazard and Randall Cobb is gonna be fun to watch.
— Matt Schneidman (@mattschneidman) April 20, 2022
The style of play (Deebo) doesn’t lend itself to him staying healthy. That alone should be reason to avoid dishing out multiple picks and huge money. That’s important because in order to get him you’d have to do both.
Draft a couple of receivers in round 1-2 and hope our elite QB can accelerate their development curve.
Rather take the chance that Gutey will come through in the draft than go with Deebo. Latter strikes me as much more risky (and expensive).
@Harry Manback posted:I have to find a way to make a living out of saying stupid shit. Right now, I'm not getting paid.
My wife would say at home I am making a living saying stupid shit every day.
As for Deebo it would be tempting but I also am leary of injury history and he is going to want to get PAID and not sure they could afford it.
I would not want to give up the draft picks, and paying him that is out of the question with his history. He can play -- when he's available.
@PackLandVA posted:If the Packers were unwilling to pay Adams beyond the franchise tag,
Well, apart from this being completely false you have a good point.
@michiganjoe posted:Rather take the chance that Gutey will come through in the draft than go with Deebo. Latter strikes me as much more risky (and expensive).
Burks is younger, much cheaper and more reliable. Just not as seasoned
@"We"-Ka-Bong posted:This Packers WR room of Deebo Samuel, Terry McLaurin, DK Metcalf, A.J. Brown, Allen Lazard and Randall Cobb is gonna be fun to watch.
— Matt Schneidman (@mattschneidman) April 20, 2022
I don’t do fantasy football. 😉
If we are willing to pay Deebo what he is probably asking for, we should have just kept Adams and saved the picks.
In other words, its not gonna happen.
Agree it's not going to happen. However, age had to have played a role in not paying Adams. Deebo is 26 and DK is 24. That matters quite a bit.
Saw that this morning, and I was all about giving up two #1's for Deebo. Then the coffee wore off, I settled down, and read some of the posts about his injury history. Ayeee, he would be a hell of a weapon and a proven commodity, but I don't like acquiring players with injury histories. For that reason alone, I'm out.
P.S. - Adams didn't want to be here. It wasn't about the money, which we were going to pay.
DeAndre Hopkins to miss first 6 games for violating PED policy.
Which somehow turned into ESPN speculation that GB should trade for him.
