2023 Final 53

@mrtundra posted:

OFFENSE(24)

QB: Love, Clifford;

RB: Jones, Dillon, Taylor

WR: Watson, Doubs, Reed, Toure, Wicks, Heath, DuBose

TE/FB: Musgrave, Kraft, Deguara

OL: Bakhtiari, Jenkins, Tom, Runyan, Nijman, Walker, Rhyan, Jones, Myers

DEFENSE(26) STs(3)

IDL: Clark, Wyatt, Slaton, Brooks, Wooden, J Ford

EDGE: Gary, Enagbare, Smith, Van Ness, Hollins, Cox

LB: Walker, McDuffie, Campbell, Wilson, Carpenter

CB: Jaire, Douglas, Nixon, Valentine, Thomas, (Stokes on PUP)

SAFETY: Moore, Owens, R Ford, A Johnson

STs: Carlson, O'Donnell, Orzech

Stash the others on the PS. Make moves to cover injuries, etc. Notable PS players: E Wilson, RB;  Dallin Leavitt,LB/STs; Kadeem Telfort, OT; Lew Nichols, RB(injured); Henry Pearson,TE/FB; Duece Watts, WR; Keshawn Banks, Edge;  Darnell Savage, Safety; Danny Whelan, Punter; Bo Melton, WR. Alex McGough, QB; William Hooper, CB; Innis Gaines, Safety.

@Boris posted:

I don't think he was saying Savage on PS

Savage is either on the 53 or PUP, right??

Unless I’m reading it wrong, looks like he has Savage on the PS.

"Make moves to cover injuries"

mrtundra wrote:

‘Notable PS players: E Wilson, RB;  Dallin Leavitt,LB/STs; Kadeem Telfort, OT; Lew Nichols, RB(injured); Henry Pearson,TE/FB; Duece Watts, WR; Keshawn Banks, Edge;  Darnell Savage, Safety; Danny Whelan, Punter; Bo Melton, WR. Alex McGough, QB; William Hooper, CB; Innis Gaines, Safety”

I mean, is Savage even injured? He’d have to go on IR if he were.  But I’m not aware he’s injured.

Savage not on the 53? At least share what you are smoking.

Since the Broncos have 5 WR injured in camp any WR we cut may end up in Denver. Jerry Jeudy  was the latest to go down today with a hamstring injury. He will be out several weeks.

@PackLandVA posted:

Unless I’m reading it wrong, looks like he has Savage on the PS.

I did not know what Savage's status was. Is he injured? If so, I stashed him on the PS to make room for either Carpenter or Moore.  Has Savage improved, in camp, over his play last season. Maybe another reason I had him on the PS. I put Gaines on the PS, as well. Larry McCarren had a video of Gaines on his Rock Report show, in which he sang Gaines's praises. Let's see everyone else's 53 predictions. Is Savage on your 53?

@mrtundra

I just meant Savage would never make it to any teams practice squad because he’d be scooped up by another team’s 53. By all accounts, he’s had a good/very good camp. He appears to be the clear cut starter. And the Packers wouldn’t take an $8 million cap hit.

Not meant as a personal attack, just an observation.

The RB everybody has forgotten is Tyler Goodson.  He had a great pre-season last year and made the practice squad.  No word on the shoulder injury he received in the Cinncy game.   He was elevated to the active roster for 1 game in 2022 season vs. Vikings by did not appear in the game.  Will the Packers try to put him on the practice squad again because he has experience over Wilson?   It's possible.

@mrtundra posted:

. Is Savage on your 53?

Savage is my only "lock" at Safety

On what planet do you think he would not make the final 53?

Savage was pretty bad last year but is still the best safety on the team which isn't saying a lot as it is our weakest position group. Hopefully he bounces back from a bad year. Hoping Rudy Ford and Anthony Johnson Jr can step up as well. Some feel Savage struggled more last year due to how Barry used him.

@13X posted:

Savage was pretty bad last year but is still the best safety on the team which isn't saying a lot as it is our weakest position group.

A little like being the skinniest girl at the fat farm.

Doubt the Packers picked up his expensive option just to waive him.

Unless Earl Thomas from 10 years ago comes thru the doors at 1265, Savage will be on this team - Good lord, it's not even a discussion

Deion still looks pretty good on TV.

@michiganjoe posted:

A little like being the skinniest girl at the fat farm.

Three woke violation’s in one sentence…I am impressed…but triggered.

Locks

QB: Love, Clifford

RB: Dillon, Jones

WR: Watson, Doubs, Reed

TE: Musgrave, Kraft

OL: Bahk, Jenkins, Tom, Runyan, Wallace

DL: Clark, Slaton, Wyatt, Brooks, Wooden

LB: Campbell, Walker, Enagbare, VanNess, Gary - Preston Smith not putting him as a lock

CB: Jaire, Douglass, Nixon

Safety: Savage (Ford is close but not 100% lock)

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I have 28 locks. A couple OL are close, same for WR. I might be able to stretch it to 32 but I think some trades/redshirting might happen. I cannot lock Josh Myers for instance or Samari Toure. I have them as a "likely"

We know Gutey doesn't cut draft selections in their first year. Lots of moves, changes can and will happen. The roster is a living breathing thing. Trades, injuries, etc.

I believe Savage improved as the season progressed last year. It took him a long time to get back to normal after the injury playing on the kickoff team.

@GBFanForLife posted:

I believe Savage improved as the season progressed last year. It took him a long time to get back to normal after the injury playing on the kickoff team.

He did play better the last couple of games of the year after his demotion. Hopefully he can build on that but his tackling has not been good.

@YATittle posted:

Found on the internet: Put Caleb jones in at tight end as a 6th lineman on 3rd and short and goalline situations a couple times this year.

I've been saying that for awhile now.  No way he doesn't move the pile forward, he's massive.

@ammo posted:

The RB everybody has forgotten is Tyler Goodson.  He had a great pre-season last year and made the practice squad.  No word on the shoulder injury he received in the Cinncy game.   He was elevated to the active roster for 1 game in 2022 season vs. Vikings by did not appear in the game.  Will the Packers try to put him on the practice squad again because he has experience over Wilson?   It's possible.

I would say with Wilson, Goodson is expendable.

@Blair Kiel posted:

Three woke violation’s in one sentence…I am impressed…but triggered.

The third violation - is that for the word "little" or "girl?"

@Boris posted:

Savage is my only "lock" at Safety

On what planet do you think he would not make the final 53?

If playing nickel or dime is what qualifies him as a Safety, then Savage may make the 53. Keeping him for his mediocre Safety play, outside of nickel and dime packages, is questionable, at best. The main reason Savage stays is because the other Safeties in this group, haven't impressed anyone, yet. They all seem to be interchangeable. I thought Owens would show more playing ability. Moore, too. Any one of them could make the PS, including Savage.

Savage is a lock to make the 53 and there is absolutely zero chance he'd make it to the PS if he were cut.  

And an $8 million cap hit.

Savage is a 1st round selection and the only safety currently on the roster worth keeping. The dude CAN play....the question is.....will he?

Ford is at least average. He's a "likely to stick"

Let's see if Barry uses him correctly this season.

https://youtu.be/EbBEYFlI8Qw?si=SSHpL1yInZwQnyTE

Toure will be the surprise cut. Heath will get snaps during the regular season.

And no way they don't keep Cox. He's just too good.

Found on the internet and I don't know if it's true: McGough will be the 3rd string QB no doubt. The new NFL rule allows the Packers to keep a 3rd stringer on their 53 man roster without it counting towards the 53. Meaning if Love and Clifford would ever go down with injuries or be disqualified during a game, McGough would fill in. However, the Packers can't move the third stringer around back and forth to Development team. They have to lock in with one player. For some reason if he would get injured during the week in practices leading up to games, the Packers would be allowed to add him to IR list, and replace him with a new 3rd stringer QB replacement. Interesting new rule

@YATittle posted:

Found on the internet and I don't know if it's true: McGough will be the 3rd string QB no doubt. The new NFL rule allows the Packers to keep a 3rd stringer on their 53 man roster without it counting towards the 53. Meaning if Love and Clifford would ever go down with injuries or be disqualified during a game, McGough would fill in. However, the Packers can't move the third stringer around back and forth to Development team. They have to lock in with one player. For some reason if he would get injured during the week in practices leading up to games, the Packers would be allowed to add him to IR list, and replace him with a new 3rd stringer QB replacement. Interesting new rule

I like this new rule. It would allow for a team with a young guy who was a low draft choice to hang on to him for a year or so to see if he actually develops. They probably would have done that with Clifford if he hadn't turned out to be much better than anyone hoped for. But in GB's case, Clifford's being much better than advertised and this new 53 rule allows GB to hang on to another young guy in McGough. Interesting rule, and good for the game.

I agree, and I think the NFL is trying to be proactive to avoid the situation the Niners had in that playoff game after Purdy got injured. Be sure all teams have at least three rostered QBs.

My Prediction:

QB (3): Love, Clifford, McGough

RB (3): Jones, Dillon, Taylor

WR (7): Watson, Doubs, Reed, Toure, Heath, Wicks, DuBose

TE (3): Musgrave, Kraft, Deguara

OL (9): Bakhtiari, Jenkins, Runyan, Myers, Tom, Walker, Jones, Rhyan, Nijman

DL (5): Clark, Wyatt, Slaton, Wooden, Brooks

Edge (6): Gary, Smith, VanNess, Enagbare, Hollins, Cox

LB (4): Campbell, Walker, McDuffie, Carpenter

CB (5): Alexander, Douglas, Nixon, Ballentine, Valentine

Safety (5): Savage, Ford, Owens, Moore, Leavitt

Kicker: Carlson

Punter: Whelan

LS: Orzech

Stokes on PUP

They'll look for a TE off waivers and someone will go to the PS, probably Cox.

Benzene,   if McGough doesn't count against the 53 you only have 52 on your list. Who else you got?   You think they will cut O'Donnell?   I don't.  Carlson has been working with him as the holder all camp.

I think Anthony Johnson Jr makes it at Safety. Not sure where Dubose stands at WR.

I think that interpretation is wrong.  McGough does count against the 53.  He just wouldn't count against the game day roster.

O'Donnell is my surprise cut.  Yes, it will surprise me too.

The party of the first part, heretofore known as the "team" may designate an emergency QB, in the unlikely event of a water landing, and may, therefore,  use that designated QB as a floatation device provided no other means of floatation is available......

Lawyers. What are ya gonna do?

Guns and money.

More true today than when Zevon wrote it.

Warren Zevon was a genius.

He was a credit to his gender