2023 Packers Off-Season Thread

Packers signed safety Tarvarius Moore. He’s a 2018 third-round pick of the 49ers. They also signed long snapper Matt Orzech.

— Matt Schneidman (@mattschneidman) March 17, 2023

Moore picked off Kansas City QB Patrick Mahomes in Super Bowl LIV, which the 49ers lost, 31-20. He also was credited with an additional pass defensed in that game despite playing just five snaps on defense. He has played in a total of six postseason games, logging 25 snaps on defense and 103 on special teams. Tore his achilles in 2021.

Worked his way back from injury to appear late in '22.

Tarvarius Moore -  he's an athlete

https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/tarvarius-moore

Maybe that's the secret to breaking the 3rd round pick fiasco, Pick up somebody else's 3rd rounder.

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from andy herman

Rich Bissacia’s influence is amazing.
Main re-sign: Keisean Nixon - Special Teams
Re-signed Tyler Davis - special teams
Signed Matt Orzech - special teams
Signed Tarvarius Moore - special teams
No other moves made yet

@Gsands posted:

Maybe that's the secret to breaking the 3rd round pick fiasco, Pick up somebody else's 3rd rounder.

Ironically enough - Oren Burks is with the 49ers, making Moore expendable.
 
( for STs)

Word is this is not great news for Rudy Ford. Packers likely moving on. But we shall see

We still need someone to replace Savage?

Adrian Amos and Dallin Leavitt are both FA's as well, so I wouldn't rule Ford out just yet.

I see Dean Lowry signed with the vikings, per NFL app.

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Dean Lowry? The same guy that used to be on our roster a few years ago?

2 years for $8.5 million for Lowry.

@Satori posted:

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from andy herman

Rich Bissacia’s influence is amazing.
Main re-sign: Keisean Nixon - Special Teams
Re-signed Tyler Davis - special teams
Signed Matt Orzech - special teams
Signed Tarvarius Moore - special teams
No other moves made yet

It appears Gute is going to build starters through the draft, as these guys provide mainly depth. Get together a great ST group in the meantime and maybe we can steal a few games that way or at least provide shorter fields for the offense.

Packers vs Eagles replay is on the NFL Network, right now. Love, in for Rodgers in the 4th Quarter, hits Watson for a TD. Always great to watch!

@Fandame posted:

It appears Gute is going to build starters through the draft, as these guys provide mainly depth. Get together a great ST group in the meantime and maybe we can steal a few games that way or at least provide shorter fields for the offense.

Here's Bill Parcells on the topic of "hidden yardage"

https://www.the33rdteam.com/ca...aker-in-close-games/

"The premise is that 100 yards of field position should equate to seven points. The more I thought about it, the more I asked myself, “If this yardage is so important, where is it coming from? Let’s take the entire scope of the yardage and evaluate it.” So, I did.

To explain what I found, we’re going to start with the obvious: total offense and total defense. So, let’s say a team has 350 yards of offense in a game. According to that premise, it should have 24 points. Let’s say that same team’s defense gives up 300 total yards. Based on that premise, the opponent should have 21 points.

Now, here is how the hidden yardage affects the outcome, especially when you consider half the games are decided by seven points or less, and a quarter are decided by three points or less. People don’t look at the penalty differential or the net-punting differential. People don’t look at the average start of possession either.

Those are hidden yards, and they all equate to points"

lots more in article for those with more than a 13 second attention span

TLDR

@mrtundra posted:

2 years for $8.5 million for Lowry.

Dean From Heaven

@antooo posted:

Adrian Amos and Dallin Leavitt are both FA's as well, so I wouldn't rule Ford out just yet.

Just announced on ACME Packing Co and SI that Ford re-signed for 1 year worth up to $2.5 million. I like it!

Should be a good ST this year.  And I like the idea of "hidden yards" above.  Even a 10 yd punt return is like getting a free first down.

@mr21mr21 posted:

Just announced on ACME Packing Co and SI that Ford re-signed for 1 year worth up to $2.5 million. I like it!

With the new safety we just signed we have speed to burn now !! Good-bye Savage .

The Packers have exercised Savages 5th year option.  That is fully guaranteed by NFL rules, so Savage isn't going to be cut by the Packers this year.

@Satori posted:

Here's Bill Parcells on the topic of "hidden yardage"

https://www.the33rdteam.com/ca...aker-in-close-games/

"The premise is that 100 yards of field position should equate to seven points. The more I thought about it, the more I asked myself, “If this yardage is so important, where is it coming from? Let’s take the entire scope of the yardage and evaluate it.” So, I did.

To explain what I found, we’re going to start with the obvious: total offense and total defense. So, let’s say a team has 350 yards of offense in a game. According to that premise, it should have 24 points. Let’s say that same team’s defense gives up 300 total yards. Based on that premise, the opponent should have 21 points.

Now, here is how the hidden yardage affects the outcome, especially when you consider half the games are decided by seven points or less, and a quarter are decided by three points or less. People don’t look at the penalty differential or the net-punting differential. People don’t look at the average start of possession either.

Those are hidden yards, and they all equate to points"

lots more in article for those with more than a 13 second attention span

Can't argue much with that. All those yards add up. Although they're not sexy, they get the job done and can influence the outcome of a game.

@Blair Kiel posted:

Why do you hate black Irish  punters?

He practices by kicking a potatoe. (Thanks D Quale)

@antooo posted:

Mike Wahle thinks Gesicki is one of the least physical of this years FA TE's.

He preferred Parris Campbell (2.5M+), Hayden Hurst (7M), Austin Hooper (7M) and Dalton Schultz (15M/pipedream) for the Packers.
Edit: Doh, Parris Campbell is a WR, not TE.

#sourgrapes

Campbell would get hurt lining up at TE before the snap. Guy’s a talent, but man, has he been injury plagued.

@antooo posted:

The Packers have exercised Savages 5th year option.

Yes they did and Gute was talking about Savage during an interview at the combine. Gute said they liked what they saw of Darnell in the slot, closer to LOS  - so there's a chance he plays there in 2023 with Rasul moving to Safety.

IF you were looking at veteran pass-catching TE's  - Zach Ertz might be a consideration. He's getting up there in age, but was still effective last year

His QB, Kyler Murray will miss a fair chunk of 2023 rehabbing an ACL and the Cards are dumping some vets. Hopkins is on the block. I think its gonna be a lost year in the desert. Maybe Ertz wants out too. Maybe the new GM in AZ wants some more picks

He would cost a 5th or so -  and you can probably get 2 good seasons out of him

https://overthecap.com/player/zach-ertz/112

Another vet player who was released by AZ, WR Robbie Chosen Anderson

The Packers looked at him previously in FA, he'd be a decent vet WR to add to the room. Wouldn't cost too much.

https://overthecap.com/player/chosen-anderson/5208

Blair would be jealous of that hair!

How does Anderson keep that hair under the helmet?

@Satori posted:

Yes they did and Gute was talking about Savage during an interview at the combine. Gute said they liked what they saw of Darnell in the slot, closer to LOS  - so there's a chance he plays there in 2023 with Rasul moving to Safety.

I was hoping for Amos to get resigned and Ford at safety with Rasul in the slot. Savage to me is not physical enough to play slot full time. jmho

@Satori posted:

IF you were looking at veteran pass-catching TE's  - Zach Ertz might be a consideration. He's getting up there in age, but was still effective last year

His QB, Kyler Murray will miss a fair chunk of 2023 rehabbing an ACL and the Cards are dumping some vets. Hopkins is on the block. I think its gonna be a lost year in the desert. Maybe Ertz wants out too. Maybe the new GM in AZ wants some more picks

He would cost a 5th or so -  and you can probably get 2 good seasons out of him

https://overthecap.com/player/zach-ertz/112

I really did want to get him ,say a couple of years ago. Maybe he does have enough gas left in the tank for a year or two.

@Satori posted:

Another vet player who was released by AZ, WR Robbie Chosen Anderson

The Packers looked at him previously in FA, he'd be a decent vet WR to add to the room. Wouldn't cost too much.

https://overthecap.com/player/chosen-anderson/5208

I still wonder if Tyler Davis has a chance to be a starting TE?  Maybe not at this point. I think he was a QB in high school and then WR and finally TE so still learning the position maybe.  

@Blair Kiel posted:

He's the unseen 3rd Island Boy.

@Packy posted:

I still wonder if Tyler Davis has a chance to be a starting TE?  Maybe not at this point. I think he was a QB in high school and then WR and finally TE so still learning the position maybe.  

If one considers Degaura to be an H-Back, which he truly is, and if the Packers TE room remains stocked with the exact same "talent" on opening day as exists on the roster today (March 18, 2023), then it is quite possible that Davis might beat out Austin Allen or Nick Guggemos (come on you all knew these are the other TEs currently on roster) for the starting job next September.

Indeed, Davis might even make fans forget about Justin Perillo in the pantheon of outstanding Packer Tight Ends since Finley's unfortunate career-ending injury a decade ago.

Then again, assuming he is not actively trying to sabotage Jordan Love's career, there is no way that Gutey will go into next season without adding a legitimate (or at least journeyman) TE or two before training camp, so the dream (or nightmare) of Tyler Davis actually becoming a starting TE in Green Bay is (and most certainly should be) just that, a bad dream.

@Satori posted:

Yes they did and Gute was talking about Savage during an interview at the combine. Gute said they liked what they saw of Darnell in the slot, closer to LOS  - so there's a chance he plays there in 2023 with Rasul moving to Safety.

The fact he was struggling so much more under Barry's playcalling until they put him back where Pettine did late is another indictment against Barry's basic competence for the job.

@The Grinder posted:

I really did want to get him ,say a couple of years ago. Maybe he does have enough gas left in the tank for a year or two.

Never Ertz to try!

So, GB moves Rasul to S. Does Gute then draft a CB to replace him, or do we still need a S, in the draft, despite the recent aquisitions?

If this years safety’s drop in the draft due to poor results in the combine then I can see the team drafting one. If he is really bad they will wait until the third round.

Staying with the green & gold!#Packers re-sign S Rudy Ford 📰: https://t.co/5RKdHDlYG6#GoPackGo pic.twitter.com/MNGMXtGONu

— Green Bay Packers (@packers) March 20, 2023

Packers also re-sign Corey Ballentine (Capricorn).