@Satori posted:.
from andy hermanRich Bissacia’s influence is amazing.
Main re-sign: Keisean Nixon - Special Teams
Re-signed Tyler Davis - special teams
Signed Matt Orzech - special teams
Signed Tarvarius Moore - special teams
No other moves made yet
https://profootballtalk.nbcspo...gn-corey-ballentine/
season saved!
I used to date a girl with 20 ounce cans.
Boy do I miss those days.
I'm sure they are down to her knees by now though.
Reported.
I don’t like this report. It seems that despite all the restructuring and not resigning some players, we are in cap trouble. But, I guess, our ST’s look ok.
The league is considering pushing back the trade deadline. I am not sure how I feel about it.
@PackerPatrick posted:I don’t like this report. It seems that despite all the restructuring and not resigning some players, we are in cap trouble. But, I guess, our ST’s look ok.
If you take into account what is needed to sign rookies, the Packers have the 2nd most cap room in the league. If you add the cap hit from trading Rodgers, they are ranked 12th.
If the Packers aren't fine, then over half the league is screwed. They're fine.
@PackerPatrick posted:The league is considering pushing back the trade deadline. I am not sure how I feel about it.
I don't see a downside. Gives teams more time to make meaningful roster adjustments due to injuries.
@vitaflo posted:If you take into account what is needed to sign rookies, the Packers have the 2nd most cap room in the league. If you add the cap hit from trading Rodgers, they are ranked 12th.
If the Packers aren't fine, then over half the league is screwed. They're fine.
Thanks Vita. I have read so many cap reports that I can’t make sense out of. Some report that the team is strapped. Other reports are like yours. Yet, what is true is that the team has pushed a lot of money into the future.
@PackerPatrick posted:Thanks Vita. I have read so many cap reports that I can’t make sense out of. Some report that the team is strapped. Other reports are like yours. Yet, what is true is that the team has pushed a lot of money into the future.
Every team pushes money into the future. The future years don't matter until we get to that year. Guys like Ingalls do this weird thing where they report how things currently are but apply it to some future date (rookies signed, practice squad, etc), which are all unknown things (how many draft picks will we actually have??). So some of those numbers are made up.
They also ignore that every team has cap casualties. Guys you'd like to keep, but once the dust settles you just can't anymore. Or ignores guys you want to sign to replace those dudes who are cut who happen to be cheaper. The roster come week 1 is most likely not going to be the current roster. But everyone talking about cap space don't take this into account at all (because they can't, it's unknown currently).
What's happening right at this moment doesn't really matter and doesn't apply to what's going to happen on final cut downs. But we currently have a lot of cap, a lot more than most teams do, even if we have to eat AR's contract. So it's really not an issue.
It sure would be nice. While I mostly agree, I also know that the team has not been too active in FA and we have some veterans that are unsigned. Other teams are doing that while the Packers wait. Maybe that lack of moves is keeping the cap looking ok now but leaving the team in want-personnel wise.
Gute at Iowa State and Ohio State for draft prep, but he squeezed in a trip to
Arizona : maybe Zach Ertz or Chosen Anderson are of interest ?
and Las Vegas : maybe FA TE Foster Moreau ?
Gute never goes into the draft with a major need AND an empty cupboard
- so I'd expect some mid-level signings in the next couple of weeks. GB doesn't have a lot of cash to work with, but they can fit in a vet or 2 at positions of need
@Thunderbird posted:
That's pretty typical these days as we are treated to all kinds of insightful analysis
1) Rodgers is washed up !
2) The Packers will crater without Rodgers !
Not sure if the Packers are gonna win the NFC north in 2023, but I'll take anybody's money who thinks GB will finish last in the division.
Send em my way
@Satori posted:Gute at Iowa State and Ohio State for draft prep, but he squeezed in a trip to
Arizona : maybe Zach Ertz or Chosen Anderson are of interest ?and Las Vegas : maybe FA TE Foster Moreau ?
Ex-Raiders tight end Foster Moreau diagnosed with cancer. “I’ve come to learn that I have Hodgkin lymphoma, and will be stepping away from football at this time to fight a new opponent: Cancer.”
@PackerHawk posted:I don't see a downside. Gives teams more time to make meaningful roster adjustments due to injuries.
Its so quaint that you offered actual football reasons for this change.
Bless your heart 
The real reason ? ( allegedly)
It pushes the trade deadline frenzy into the November sweeps for Nielsen ratings.
If I had a nickel for every hour I spent in front of tv during the trade deadline week.
@Satori posted:and Las Vegas : maybe FA TE Foster Moreau ?
You are not ready for an expanded role
@Satori posted:Its so quaint that you offered actual football reasons for this change.
Bless your heartThe real reason ? ( allegedly)
It pushes the trade deadline frenzy into the November sweeps for Nielsen ratings.
Hey, two birds with one stone. Even better.
Justin Hollis is back. Underrated signing.
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@Goalline posted:Justin Hollis is back. Underrated signing.
From PackersWire
"Hollins (6-5, 248) was claimed off waivers by the Packers from the Los Angeles Rams in November of last year. The 27-year-old went on to play in six games for the Packers, producing nine pressures, 2.5 sacks, four quarterback hits and three tackles for loss over 128 snaps on defense and eight more on special teams."
Hollins was originally a fifth-round pick of the Rams in 2019. He’s played in 55 career games and has 9.5 career sacks
Hollins is experienced in Joe Barry’s style of defense and will provide experienced depth behind expected starters Preston Smith and Rashan Gary in 2023. He could even play important snaps early in the year if the Packers are cautious with Gary's return
I think some of Gute's strategy is becoming a bit clearer. We laugh about all the STs signings, but those are the "hidden yards" as Belichik calls them, that can help make it easier to win games. With Gute's ST signings, Bisaccia can build on last year's success and gain more of those hidden yards, thus taking pressure off Love and pressure off Barry's defense. If Love can be good enough to win some games, and Barry good enough to not blow some games, STs will decide a couple of games' outcomes. By getting the best ST players and getting the most out of them, you can force other teams to march long distances to score, and yet give your offense a shorter field. In the end, maybe it helps win three more games or so. It's worth it.
@Fandame posted:I think some of Gute's strategy is becoming a bit clearer.
Packers are in transition financially as GB moves away from AR, so there is a lot of cap maneuvering and added void years to handle the $$ crunch.
Unfortunately, the Packers cap crunch was exacerbated by occurring simultaneously with the $36M in lost cap space from the pandemic. If the cap had grown at normal rates, GB would be in much better shape
All teams are still paying for pandemic now. Timing just sucked extra bad for GB
Given the current cash constraints, the following seems to make sense strategically:
It costs a lot to build a top end offense
It costs a lot to build a top end defense
It costs diddly to build a top end Special Teams
The Packers are moving away from a Superstar QB- centric team to a more balanced squad...until Love hits his 2nd payday in a couple years.
Then the strategery changes again.
I'd guess Gute/Ball will get things cleaned up $$ in 2023, then they'll be more aggressive in FA in 2024, 2025 and make a run at it.
Some commentary on Josiah Deguara with Love at QB in 2023
https://zonecoverage.com/2023/...-ways-rodgers-didnt/
That’s why I wrote that Deguara should receive more opportunities last year.
“We can be in the same personnel grouping, and we can line him up on the line of scrimmage or in a wing alignment, or we can line him up in the backfield,” said LaFleur in 2020, during Deguara’s rookie season. “I just think that adds stress to a defense in terms of how these guys will line up and what exactly they’re going to do.”
Deguara had the highest PFF grade among Packers tight ends, but he ended up third in offensive snaps. He was fourth by the end of October, behind Tyler Davis. In terms of efficiency, Deguara was clearly the best option. He finished the season first on the team in yards per route run (1.50) and had a perfect true catch rate.
He never established a connection with Rodgers, and it’s not clear why. But his proximity to Love during practices after three years as backups might help now that both are going to be starters.
The most obvious example is Deguara’s best play in the NFL. In the Week 18 game against the Detroit Lions in 2021, with Love under center, Deguara caught a screen pass and scored a 62-yard touchdown. The play shows exactly what Deguara was as a prospect and what he is as a player. He’s not a classic in-line or Y tight end. However, he excels as an h-back and a moveable piece of the offense."
Can't remember if we talked about this dude - but the Packers have another 2nd year WR besides Watson, Doubs and Toure.
GB also snagged Bo Melton off of Seattle PS last December.
The Green Bay Packers signed WR Bo Melton to the active roster on Dec. 27, 2022. Melton (5-11, 189) was originally selected by the Seahawks in the seventh round (No. 229 overall) of the 2022 NFL Draft out of Rutgers University.
Ran a 4.34 so he's fast and he's quick too. Serious separation in his release
Packers are Cheeep
So far the Packers signed/tendered 7 free agents counting for only $7.53M on the 2023 salary cap:
RFA - Yosh Nijman: $3.55M
UFA - Keisean Nixon: $2.02M
UFA - Rudy Ford: $750K
UFA - Matt Orzech: $430K
UFA - Tyler Davis: $290K
UFA - Corey Ballentine: $250K
UFA - Tarvarius Moore: $240K
@Satori posted:Some commentary on Josiah Deguara with Love at QB in 2023
https://zonecoverage.com/2023/...-ways-rodgers-didnt/
That’s why I wrote that Deguara should receive more opportunities last year.
“We can be in the same personnel grouping, and we can line him up on the line of scrimmage or in a wing alignment, or we can line him up in the backfield,” said LaFleur in 2020, during Deguara’s rookie season. “I just think that adds stress to a defense in terms of how these guys will line up and what exactly they’re going to do.”
Deguara had the highest PFF grade among Packers tight ends, but he ended up third in offensive snaps. He was fourth by the end of October, behind Tyler Davis. In terms of efficiency, Deguara was clearly the best option. He finished the season first on the team in yards per route run (1.50) and had a perfect true catch rate.
He never established a connection with Rodgers, and it’s not clear why. But his proximity to Love during practices after three years as backups might help now that both are going to be starters.
The most obvious example is Deguara’s best play in the NFL. In the Week 18 game against the Detroit Lions in 2021, with Love under center, Deguara caught a screen pass and scored a 62-yard touchdown. The play shows exactly what Deguara was as a prospect and what he is as a player. He’s not a classic in-line or Y tight end. However, he excels as an h-back and a moveable piece of the offense."
Sorry, my biggest frustration with Rodgers. The reluctance to throw to certain receivers. Rodgers has a “doghouse “ and Deguara never seemed to get out of it.
Rodgers kept throwing to Watson despite Watson's constant fuck ups, Deguara's snaps were cut by LaFluer and that Deguara TD was more on Detroit looking like they hired Joe Barry than a great play by him. Amari Rodgers also had a big play ib Green Bay and one in Houston., Doesn't make either of them underused receivers.
Deguara is a decent H-Back, made some good blocks last year, but he also plays a position where development is usually longer.
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From Zone Coverage:
The Packers Should Create Offensive Packages For Keisean Nixon
https://zonecoverage.com/2023/...s-for-keisean-nixon/
"LaFleur says Keisean Nixon has been campaigning to play slot — not slot corner, but slot receiver."
Nixon’s playmaking ability is too good of an opportunity to pass up, and the Packers should give him package plays on offense.
“Really proud of the way he responded to the opportunities given to him, not only in the teams stuff but in defense, as well,” general manager Brian Gutekunst said after the season. “When we identified him in the middle of last season as a nickel-corner-type player, we knew we were losing Chandon (Sullivan) at the end of the year and we were going to have to fill that spot. We were really excited about him as that and knew he was a good teams player, good gunner, good cover guy.”
I think we'll see a lot more variability in MLF's offense this year with a QB that is willing to run it.
