Adrian Peterson - indictment for child abuse/neglect

are you kidding? English is our second language down here.

We gave you civil rights. Been around for a while now. It's no at a fad served in coffee cups.

So do I. As you can tell, it left a "lasting" impression. And not in a good way. My Ol' Man didn't even drink. He was just a mean SOB. I have a special sensitivity to child abusers...again...not in a good way.

I get what you're saying, but I still think that what's being lost in fond reminiscence here is whether it's 1950 or 2014, a decent human being doesn't punish a toddler with a gotdamn whip.

I don't know how you take an alpha male like AP who probably thinks being beaten was beneficial to the development of his character and get him to see there are ideas worth exploring beyond violence and aggression.   

The entire media is in a manic gossiping frenzy, frolicking in righteous indignation and infatuated with every lurid detail about the violence and yet it's a teachable moment that's quickly passing by without any teaching.  Every media host falls in line with contempt and a serious tone, but there's no mention of solutions and there are plenty worth discussing.  I've heard, watched, or read nothing on alternative techniques to dealing with anger and violence.

 

It's a complex topic but if the NFL, the networks. and advertising agencies can get together and manipulate the unwashed masses into thinking pisswater like Coors Lite is not only drinkable but also worth paying for, then they sure as the sun can figure out a way to influence our NFL crazed nation to resolve conflict in a more benevolent manner. It's not even that hard. It just takes effort. 

 

Emotions more or less begin inside two almond-shaped structures in our brains which are called the amygdala. The amygdala is the part of the brain responsible for identifying threats to our well-being, and for sending out an alarm when threats are identified that results in us taking steps to protect ourselves. The amygdala is so efficient at warning us about threats, that it gets us reacting before the cortex (the part of the brain responsible for thought and judgment) is able to check on the reasonableness of our reaction.

 

As you become angry your body's muscles tense up. Inside your brain, neurotransmitter chemicals known as catecholamines are released causing you to experience a burst of energy lasting up to several minutes. This burst of energy is behind the common angry desire to take immediate protective action. At the same time your heart rate accelerates, your blood pressure rises, and your rate of breathing increases. Your face may flush as increased blood flow enters your limbs and extremities in preparation for physical action. Your attention narrows and becomes locked onto the target of your anger. Soon you can pay attention to nothing else. In quick succession, additional brain neurotransmitters and hormones (among them adrenaline and noradrenaline) are released which trigger a lasting state of arousal. You're now ready to fight. -physiology of anger

 

Think about that going on inside the body of Adrian f'ing Peterson and then think about what that 4 year old was thinking as all that was going on and all of it was focused square on him. Sounds to me like AP beat the kid head to foot.  Grown men marvel at AP's legendary handshake.  I've heard it multiple times.       

 

If the NFL is going to encourage the creation of physical monsters it needs to own up to it's responsibility to provide every resource they can muster to teach these men techniques on how not to use their literally superhuman powers on their children and their wives.  The resources are there. The information is there.  The effort is no where to be found and it's unconscionable.       /rant

One of the best posts ever on this site, titm. Well done.

Nicely posted titm. Well done.

I don't understand why these players can't control themselves. Adrian is a world class athlete, it's not the same when he hits his kid with a switch as when his daddy hit him with a switch. Adrian's daddy also knew when enough was enough as far as discipline goes...maybe he didn't and that's why Adrian is in this mess. Hitting his kid with a switch may be a family and cultural tradition, but beating him to the extent he did is not.

If those tmz pics are accurate...this is worse than the ray rice incident!

  I don't need to understand the physiology of anger, or sympathize with ap's upbringing To understand the difference between a spanking and a beating. 

Unlike the ray rice incident....this 4year old...wasn't drunk, weighs probably 40 pounds, has no ability to leave the home, and utterly defenseless. 

If Peterson is not subject to a similar punishment as rice...I guess we know how society feels about legit child abuse. And I don't give a rats a$$ about any football implications.  

One of my impressions is contrasting the post of advocating spanking - like 3 times and not real hard.

 

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How many times did AP hit his kid - a hundred, perhaps?

 

geeeez.

 

Completely out of control.

there's also quite a difference between a few swats on the butt to welts on the extremities nod other areas. 

Maybe I'm wrong but I read that as sarcasm and a dig at people who care more about their ff team than people who are hurt.

Right. but idiots take it as insensitive. So Roddy has to apologize.

Do many southerners consider that a positive?

This…. and the New York Times report that the NFL concedes that running into things with your head causes brain trauma….tough week for the League….and on a personal note…I found out that all beers can be served cold, not just Coors Light! Damn, I've been led astray all this time!

AP keeps saying how sorry he was this happened. So he texts the mother saying he did, puts the kid on a plane and shipps him back to Minnesota. If he was so sorry and so concerned he would have taken the kid to the Dr. in Texas.  He's a worthless POS. 

for the Gravediggers of the world, I will go ahead and offer a definition of discipline vs punishment.  Discipline is about learning, it indicates what you need to do in the future to do better.  Discipline is logical and connects the consequence to the infraction.  When using discipline, the individual may or may not feel discomfort, but that is all on the shoulders of the person being disciplined.  Discipline is not effective unless it is about "making it right." Punishment is about an inferior/superior relationship.  The punisher does not feel the punishment is complete until the individual has felt enough pain.  It is not about learning, does not indicate what you need to in the future and does not leave the punished any more prepared to do better in the future.  Punishment is about power, discipline is about teaching.  Discipline is about making you better, punishment is about making you smaller.   

I also fear this coming in threes.  We've had a guy comfortable with hitting his wife, a guy comfortable hitting his 4 year old, I can only assume somebody is going to be mistreating grandma next.  Or perhaps Mike Vick can make it back in the news. 

Or maybe some Cowboy will beat up Micheal Sam because he looked at him in the shower.

That was my first impression when I read it. Sarcasm isn't always properly conveyed over the internet.

 

 

You give Roddy White too much credit for knowing what sarcasm is.

There was a lot of rage involved in that beating. His whole body is covered in welts. Can I hear more stupid comments about time outs?

 

It depends. Did Roger Goodell see the video?

He apparently asked for it but it never made its way to the NFL office.

Interesting all the stress and angst over AP and rice the stuff goes on everywhere every day but just because some coddled millionaire athletes do it...it is finally worth attention?  Congratulations society for seeing what police and other first responders see every day

I just liked an IC post, I think I need a shower, ;-)

 

well said, IC.

 

i just had a "conversation" with a friend who blames the media for Peterson's predicament, after all, he was just "disciplining his child". Apparently a scrotum tear is the acceptable punishment for a four-year-old. It's not unexpected but sad that many people defend scumbags just for the uniform they wear.

Why can't the players control themselves?  Part of the problem is that the system has enabled and coddled this type of behavior.  Professional athletes also have the resources to defend claims. 

We need to also remember this isn't flag football.   It is a very violent sport and it's celebrated!!  Then they leave the field of play and can't adjust to social norms accordingly. 

I could also get into the upbringing  aspect but this isn't a black or white issue.  It's a system issue.   Until the NFL takes a zero tolerance stand on criminal behavior and educates it's teams and owners and players this will continue to happen. 

The only surprise to me is that people are surprised at the Greg Hardy's and Ray Rice's of the world.   It's not some new phenomenon

 

 

Can't adjust to Social norms? What is this? The Longest Yard?

No, plenty of these cases are overblown.  This one isn't.

At the very least AP is truly ignorant.

even *dum people know not to hurt kids like that

 

*edit- some dum

       
       


Thanks for offering that definition. Not sure why the Gravediggers of the world needed it? I didn't condone this behavior.

Obviously Petersen was beating to teach.  This way the child will know not to provoke him in the future.  

****ing Patriots luck out again. I have been watching them and they have trouble stopping the run.

The look of a guy who feels he's done absolutely nothing wrong:

 

 

RT @NFL_RealUpdates: Vikings Adrian Peterson mugshot from his arrest for child abuse pic.twitter.com/K3ojyZjjup

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) September 13, 2014

       
       
Roddy White, is that you?

 

PR machine ramping up.  Smile for your mugshot.

I don't know, he tells the mom, "You might be mad at me for his legs," like he forgot to take out the trash or spilled Pepsi on the rug or something.

After seeing those pictures and knowing this is a four year old, I would vote guilty of child abuse. There is no excuse for this kind of behavior from AP. Horrific to say the least.