The defense on the Bengals certainly wasn't the problem. Dalton sucks at QB.
D wasn’t the problem in Cincy but if accountability was the problem in GB, I doubt bringing in a guy who let Burfict get away with what he does and the overall cheapness of those D players will cure accountability issues in GB.
Burfict was just an idot. Jesus Christ himself wouldn't have been able to reign him in.
I wouldn't mind seeing Guenther in Green Bay
Guenther is most likely linked to Gruden in Oakland.
They're ( ) waiting for the playoffs to complete, to let Gruden go & announce it
Alex Van Pelt contract not renewed!
Ben McAdoo anyone?
The flame has clearly been turned up on Mike of the Monongahela's butt cheeks. No way he makes this many changes unless he knows his ass is on the line.
I'm tellin ya, we're going to see an amazing coaching job by MM in 2018
couldn't agree more, boss. he's revamping the machine's engine. might take a year, might get lucky.
is that a fancy way to say "fat ass"?
Good luck to Edgar.....he is a great Packer. One of my favs.
I have no idea what he did as a coach but he was a hell of a player.
Wouldn't be shocked to see Edgar back in GB as a position coach.
Per Rob D, that's not expected to happen with Edger.
My goodness that Anthony Barr hit has quite the damn ripple effect.
PLEASE make Campen OC. The heads a'splodin around here would be 😚👌😚👌😚👌.
Somebody has to be the scapegoat for the offensive offense when Rodgers went down.
Vic Fangio interviewed for the Bears HC position today.
PackFoo posted:And Edgar Bennett no longer OC!
Philbin coming back ? He's missed in GB
Thought EB was a good WR coach. They were really good with hm as coach.
Packiderm posted:Moss still needs to go!
And one more - ZOOK!
Yes, sad about Edgar. Mainly because I've always liked him as a person. Sometimes "business" is hard.
I wonder how necessary a QB coach position is in Green Bay.
The immediate thought is yes; the backups need to develop. But seeing Hundley's performance over a 8-game stretch makes me question that. Unless Van Pelt was giving it the ol' HHCD this year, was that a reflection of his skills, or one of TT's and/or MM's talent evaluation?
And who is going to teach ARod what?
Or does "The QB Guru" need someone to run his "school'?
Bennett just got reassigned correct, not fired? He did great at WR coach. Philbin was a good OC, we went to two NFCC and won a SB with him in that role. McAdoo was supposedly a good position coach, it’s not uncommon for good position coaches to be bad coordinators or bad HCs.
Bennett is still under contract and Luke Getsy is expected to take the OC job at Mississippi State so it's certainly a possibility he could have that job.
Van Pelt got sacrificed for Hundley’s performance.
Ah...then the local TV station did not convey that very well. I checked an online newspaper and it states that it was unclear if Bennett would be open to accepting another assignment to stay on the staff.
More like Hundley straight murdered half the coaching staff.
And Zooks wife is getting sick of saying “for the last time. He’s ice fishing and he’s got no reception” on the phone.
ChilliJon posted:More like Hundley straight murdered half the coaching staff.
And Zooks wife is getting sick of saying “for the last time. He’s ice fishing and he’s got no reception” on the phone.
Favre and Rodgers made a lot of coaches a lot of money over the years. Without Favre, guys like Andy Reid, Mariucci, Mornigweg, and Gruden don't get the chances they did. Some worked out, some didn't.
Rodgers made Philbin and McAdoo candidates for head coaching jobs.
Guys like Hundley get guys fired. Guys like Favre and Rodgers make guys money.
When Philbin was OC, the offense ran like a well-oiled machine. It was immediately apparent when Clements replaced him that the team was not as well-organized without him.
McAdoo was a very good position coach. It sounds like he just didn't have the personality or nads to be HC, especially for a NYC team.
Bennett is getting placed on "special assignment" in Human Resources for the remainder of his contract.
What was nice about Philbin is he had McCarthy's respect. I think that was key to their success together.
In 2018....This is what I want.
- 2011 caliber offense
- 2010 caliber defense
- 1996 special teams
Let the chips fall where they may.
Make it happen MM!
The thing I remember most about that 2011 offense was that the 2011 defense might be bad enough to derail the locomotive. It probably would have. But Philbin lost his son in the worst way imaginable and that was that.
The 2011 offense was silly good. The 2011 defense was stupid bad. How Dom lasted 6 years after 2011 while things never really improved is truly incredible.
Brainwashed Boris posted:In 2018....This is what I want.
- 2011 caliber offense
- 2010 caliber defense
- 1996 special teams
Let the chips fall where they may.
Make it happen MM!
2011 WRs and TEs: 28 year old Jennings, 26 year old Nelson, 27 year old James Jones, 21 year old Randall Cobb. Finley was 24 and had 55 catches for 757 yards and 8 TDs as the TE. Driver was over the hill, but not bad as a 6th option. They were loaded. When your QB is Aaron Rodgers that's just not fair.
I'll take the 1996 defense - or just that DL - White, Jones, and S. Dotson had 361 career sacks. You didn't need to blitz to get pressure. When they did LeRoy Butler might have been the best pass rushing DB in history.
Special teams - Yeah, I'll take Desmond's 1996 year.
ChilliJon posted:The thing I remember most about that 2011 offense was that the 2011 defense might be bad enough to derail the locomotive. It probably would have. But Philbin lost his son in the worst way imaginable and that was that.
The 2011 offense was silly good. The 2011 defense was stupid bad. How Dom lasted 6 years after 2011 while things never really improved is truly incredible.
If Nick Collins doesn't get hurt, that defense is a top 10 defense. Philbin's tragic family situation and Nick Collins' freak injury are what derailed what might have been a top 10 team all-time.
Brainwashed Boris posted:I'm tellin ya, we're going to see an amazing coaching job by MM in 2018
Only if AR and that right arm are amazing.
2011 Defense with Nick Collins gave up 470 yards to New Orleans in week 1 and 470 yards to Carolina in week 2. Nick went down in the 4th quarter in week 2. Packers started 2-0 by the way becasue Rodgers was damn near perfect. Go figure...
No one loved Nick as much as I did. GB doesn’t finish dead last in defense if Nick doesn’t get hurt. But that 2011 defense looked lost and broken from day one. Losing Nick just made things worse.