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  Lot of ink about the signing of Colt Lyerla and much ado about how he can replace Finley if he gets his head on straight but as usual I have a different perspective.  Lyerla remindes  me not of Finley but more of a faster shiftier(surer handed) version of DJ Williams.  Unlike many I have seen him play and his ht (6-2) and his receiving style (think slot receiver) not Finley  who used body positioning and basketball skills to get open.  I do think, if Lyerla has his head bolted on right he can help this team but more as an H-back than a tight end and should he get loose he is hard to track down and tackle.  His skill set could him a  dominant player but not this year.  I wish him the best and i think M3 wouls love to have a bunch of plays just for him that would free him up running thorugh a zone  but I suspect if he makes the team it will take a year buried on the 53 to learn the NFL game.  If you see his highlights you se the potential and that speed but not the 6-6 fram of J-mike!

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If (when?) the real DJ Williams gets hurt then do you see a need for another DJ Williams??

 

Over the last decade I learned to STFU & watch the roster unfold as it's a living breathing thing & even the "final cut" to 53 isn't "final".

 

If Colt screws his head on straight (a huge IF) TT & company must think he can help the team win football games. Low risk/high reward.....count me in

Physical attributes are not the issue here.  He is actually 2 inches taller than DJ Williams (combine numbers), longer arms by over an inch, faster by a few hundredths of a second,  jumps 1/2 a foot higher on the vertical, jumps 1 1/2 ft. longer on broadjump, and just slightly less on the benchpress (15 vs. 20). 

 

I just don't think it is a fair comparison.  Frankly, you might as well say he's 1" shorter than Jermichael Finley. 

Originally Posted by Caveman:
If the Lions, Bears or Vikings had picked him up instead we all would be making a mockery out of this signing, I don't see the need for another D.J. Williams on this team

Don't agree with this at all. All of us would not be making a mockery of the pick. At least not the ones that took the time to understand his background and how he ended up where he ended up. I think those people would be quietly pulling for the kid to figure his life out but also a bit worried that if he did hes got the physical tools to make those teams better. 

 

If Minny, Chicago, or Detroit signed someone like Josh Gordon after his suspension was over then they're fair game for the mockery.  He was given his NFL shot and pissed all over it. If Colt pisses all over the shot he's been given by GB and one of those teams signs him then. Then he's fair game as well. 

 

He's second round talent that had to sweat a rookie tryout just to make a 90 man roster. Any fan that makes fun of a team that gives this kid a shot (especially the kind of low grade shot GB just did) would be dead wrong. At least at this stage of the kids journey. 

 

 

Signing him this way makes sense, much more sense than spending a decent draft pick on a questionable guy. This way, if he screws up they can cut him and be out essentially nothing, it’s all on him.  Almost no risk with potential for good rewards. It makes good football sense to kick his tires.

 

You have to admit though it is another nail in the coffin of the ridiculous ‘the Packers only sign good, Salt-Of-The-Earth, “Packer People” meme (because somehow there weren’t enough already). Guys with talent get second chances (or third, or fourthâ€Ķ.) and the Packers aren’t going to ignore available talent.

"I'm going to make the teams that passed on me pay"

 

If he says anything remotely close to that in camp it it means he's still having a tough time grasping logic. He's the lone reason teams passed him over. So the "I'm making teams pay" comment is way up on this list of things I don't want to hear come out of his mouth in camp. "I slept with two racoon's last night" would be up there as well. 

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How many turds/known character risks have ever gotten big financial or prime draft pick commitments from GB?  The only known risks for turditis that I can remember off the top of my head are the ones that have already been mentioned a thousand times.  Jolly, Robinson and Lyerla were all low risk/high reward scenarios, and that's a total of three in 9 years.  Walden showed some turdish tendencies while in GB, but he was allowed to leave, and IIRC some fringe guy named Underwood or something was a real asswipe.  I'm sure there were others I'm forgetting, but the fact that I'm forgetting them only means that GB doesn't build its core around potential idiots.  Walden was signed off the street and Underwood was a late pick.

I have never been one of the "Packer People" crowd and it is well known that if Ted Bundy could catch 30 TD passes in a season 32 teams would be investigating his availability for duty before passing on him.  That being said, I do like the Lyerla signing for the reasons I mentioned above, for a TE he has explosive speed  and M3 could easily create some packages for him.  Not sure I understand the slept with 2 raccoon's last night but if he scored 10 TDs as a rooke  as long as he wasn't sleeping with any of tauschers dairy cows nobody in Wisconsin would begrudge him a raccoon or two!

Pack88

 

Originally Posted by Pack88:

I have never been one of the "Packer People" crowd and it is well known that if Ted Bundy could catch 30 TD passes in a season 32 teams would be investigating his availability for duty before passing on him.

I'm going to assume you don't really follow this line of thinking.

Originally Posted by Green Crustacean:

Physical attributes are not the issue here.  He is actually 2 inches taller than DJ Williams (combine numbers), longer arms by over an inch, faster by a few hundredths of a second,  jumps 1/2 a foot higher on the vertical, jumps 1 1/2 ft. longer on broadjump, and just slightly less on the benchpress (15 vs. 20). 

 

I just don't think it is a fair comparison.  Frankly, you might as well say he's 1" shorter than Jermichael Finley. 

GC: I was trying to compare playing styles more than ht, again having actually seen lyerla play,  his game, his style is much different from Finley, he plays more like an H back, and thus thus the like DJ Williams.  No question Lyerla is taller- obviously faster and more explosive than DJ ever hoped to be, he also in the limited action I saw much more a hands catcher than DJ was.  I don't know about his basketball skills what I saw of him was the one more separate and watch a bunch of guys try and corral him.  If this translates to the NFL he could be quite a find.  Like many 21 y/o's it is as much ability and desire and what is between his ears that will determine his fate!

Pack88

Originally Posted by ChilliJon:

"I'm going to make the teams that passed on me pay"

 

If he says anything remotely close to that in camp it it means he's still having a tough time grasping logic. He's the lone reason teams passed him over. So the "I'm making teams pay" comment is way up on this list of things I don't want to hear come out of his mouth in camp. "I slept with two racoon's last night" would be up there as well. 

Depends. Did the raccoons consent to it?

Anybody remember TE Keith Jackson? He was a wrecking ball down field after a catch. His early retirement had much to do with deflating the explosiveness of the Farve offense and hurting us for a Super Bowl repeat.  Just imagine what a Keith Jackson type tight end would do to an Aaron Rodgers offensive machine.  Can Colt Lyerla be "the man?"

Originally Posted by chickenboy:

http://www.jsonline.com/sports...970z1-259883161.html

 

Man, the baggage this guy has is off the charts. I love the risk/reward however. Especially at a position of need.

Quick thought after reading the scout's thoughts on Colt:

 

I have a little better understanding why some teams draft as ****ty as they do. There's a whole bunch of "I'm a big effing deal and I know a lot about a lot of things" going on in a few of those comments. 

 

I'd like to think that when it comes to good scouting, I would expect the good ones are a little bit "here's what I feel" and a heavy dose of "here's what I know and here's what I actually saw" and take the emotion out of the equation entirely. 

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