Fandame posted:I mentioned it earlier that I would take Fangio over Dom. He's always put together great defenses. The 9ers were tough against AR and so has been the Bears D. Give Fangio a little something to work with and I bet he takes GB defense to the top 10. Isn't he a 4-3 guy? But even so, we all say the pieces are in place to go 4-3...
I'll say it again. Only reservation I have with Fangio is that SF D was stacked with early round talent and now CHI has been collecting some of the same. Can he do more with what we already have? Probably but he hasn't been coaching a bunch of stiffs. Yes, he runs the same 34 as Dom. Just more outstandingly than him.
The Bears had a number of injuries on defense this year http://www.chicagobears.com/ne...8e-846f-14144104ff53
but still held Detroit to under 300 yards in total offense in Detroit last week.
I feel like I'm watching ketchup drop from a Heinz bottle with Carly Simon playing in the background. Could we really be just days away from a decision we are all anticipating?
michiganjoe posted:Seven in coverage and two receivers and both are open. Appears to be the soft zone coverage that Dom specializes in.
I just keep coming back to this.. Seven in coverage yet leave the only two receivers past LOS open, meanwhile the 4 on 8 pass rush is really putting on the pressure too
According to PFT and a recent interview, Dom has his blinders on...
I agree.
YooperPackfan posted:pkr_north posted:seriously though, did TT have a stroke? everytime i see him flashed in the booth, he's got that kind of face going...yeesh.
I’ve been saying for a couple years now he has that look on his face like he has dementia and I'm not joking when I say that
Fortunately, the majority of Yoopers are smarter than this.
In @WiStateJournal ~ #Packers defensive coordinator Dom Capers: 'I’ve always believed in focusing on the things you have control over. And if you don’t do that in this business, then I think you’re in trouble.'https://t.co/9eg6Xd3Hnt
— Jason Wilde (@jasonjwilde) December 29, 2017
Among the things you can't control?
*The middle of the field
*Read option
*the other team from scoring in the last couple minutes
*AJ Hawk
#Dom Capers: 'I’ve always believed in focusing on the things you have control over. And if you don’t do that in this business, then I think you’re in trouble.'
You're in trouble. If you're not, there are deep rooted problems with this organization.
Besides taking pressure off himself, another reason I expect MM to dump Dom is timing. This will be the first chance since Dom was hired for MM to have his pick of all the available DCs and not have to choose from the leftovers.
— Michael Rodney (@PackersNotes) December 29, 2017
MM needs to move quickly if he wants to avoid leftovers.
PackerPatrick posted:According to PFT and a recent interview, Dom has his blinders on...
I agree.
Why wouldn't he? There's zero pressure on any of these coaches.
If we win...YAY!! If we lose...Awww....we'll get 'em next year!
First time without playoffs since 2009. Don't worry about it.
Coaches all safe.
We have no idea what goes on inside 1265.
And I gotta feeling CHI will can Fox and hold Fangio.
Fangio's contract is up.
michiganjoe posted:MM needs to move quickly if he wants to avoid leftovers.
Don't think M3 has missed many leftovers...
Most speculation comes from "journalists" looking to create a story where there is none, IMHO. But there seems to be a difference this year.
Other than when MM responded to a question with this thread title, there really hasn't been much 'talk' about Capers' future. Always grumbling about specific games, but never much uproar that didn't die down after a few weeks.
This year (finally) the banter about Capers isn't going away. I'm sure the local guys are about to bust a gut for the Detroit game to be over with so they can start asking MM specifically about "changes". Of course, the questions and answers mean nothing, but they should and have to be asked.
In addition to dismal rankings in bottom 5 in third down conversions, 3rd down completions, scores given up in red zone, 10 minute and 5 minute drives, MM surely notices that two players who left his secondary made the Pro Bowl with their new teams--yet were bit players in the Capers scheme. When two guys in one of your weakest areas have this success elsewhere, one needs to question why the current DC was unable to utilize their talents when they played for him.
Remember that there are some weird rules in place for hiring coaches and because GB has been in the playoffs, those rules have worked against them. And a team in the playoffs can block anyone interested in interviewing your guys, which promotes staleness and same-old, same-old. Since you want a new attitude from a successful team, which is probably in the playoffs, you can’t really go after them till their team and your team are both done. And after both are done, teams lock them up with phony titles like “assistant defensive head coach” so they can’t leave. Frankly, if you’re in the playoffs, you also aren’t going to go around requesting and conducting interviews for replacements either. The rules regarding interviews for coaches and allowing coaches to leave for lateral positions need to change, otherwise teams that consistently make the playoffs are penalized searching for coaches. That’s what I think MM might be alluding to...
I'm sure teams can't have direct contact with coaches whose teams are still playing, but I'd be just as sure much (all?) of that business would be handled through the coach's agent. AFAIK, they can be contacted anytime.
I agree with you about rules for coaches to change teams. It seems strange that the NFL has as many rules about the contracts of assistant coaches as they do. I was surprised to read the league mandates that teams can withhold portions of their salary in certain situations like strikes/lockouts, and this is included in every ass't coaches contract.
What would you think about teams having to use something like rules regarding free agency to retain a coach who has been offered a position by another team?
Offer sheets, franchise tags, etc.
pakrbakr posted:
Hope they do a 2 fer. Dom can take Moss with him.
My guess: they will do a complete house-cleaning. Hire a new guy who will have a clean slate to bring in all of the assistants.
Hopefully the Adams signing is a hint that Packers are moving fast to get the pieces in-place for 2018, and the DOMinoes will fall soon after the season ends on Sunday.
Possible hires... Looks like a big need for DC’s. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/...perfect-coordinator/
https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/12...nday-firings-hirings
I wouldn’t mind Greg Schiano as DC in Green Bay but he may be more interested in a college head coaching position.
Dom is planning to retire.
Will come out of retirement to consult for NEP in 2018.
Pass on Schiano thanks.
I'm sure teams can't have direct contact with coaches whose teams are still playing,
Didn't they modify the rule many years back to allow coaches on teams with first-round byes to be interviewed during the bye week?
pakrbakr posted:
Attachments
I’m as big an OSU homer but pass on Schiano as well.
Fedya posted:pakrbakr posted:
WTF?!?
You couldn't find a bottle more expensive than $5.49 at Piggly Wiggly?
I'm not much of a champagne fan. (In general I don't like carbonated beverages.) I just wanted some cheap champagne on hand for New Years and for when Dom Capers gets fired. I'm not gonna drop ten times that on some Veuve Clicquot or Dom Perignon.
I'm also not a high earner like you and don't have refined enough taste buds to notice the difference between moderately priced wines and the expensive stuff. Finally, the taxes in New York mean you're not getting a bottle for $5.49. At least I couldn't find one in the liquor store.
So regarding King/Biegel vs. Watt........what makes anyone think Watt would be able to do anything special playing for Capers? He'd probably be asked to switch positions to ILB and be back up FB, only getting in at OLB when Fackrell needs a breather. Why is backing up Fackrell?? Well because Fackrell knows the defense and according to Capers, knowing where to be is more important than making plays.
I've lost complete faith that Capers can do anything with young players. I am so pissed that Capers made Hayward look like a fairly average CB that can only play the slot, only to see him become arguably the best CB in football. And this wasn't a "TT blew it" b/c the rest of the league wasn't that interested in Hayward either, seeing as he was signed for cheap. Why? Because he looked average in Capers' defense. Similar with Hyde, who looks better in Buffalo than we ever saw here. Maybe our secondary issues isn't a talent thing, but a coaching thing.
It is time to move on. See ya Capers, don't let the door hit ya on the way out.
No way Compers is back next season. There’s just no way.
#Packers defensive coordinator Dom Capers not expected to return, according to @AdamSchefter.
— Zach Kruse (@zachkruse2) December 31, 2017
Per @AdamSchefter: Packers DC Dom Capers out after season https://t.co/XAir5B3ZpD
— Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) December 31, 2017
Better 5 years too late than never.
Thanks for 2010 Dom. We ain't gonna miss you one bit.
Let’s not get too excited, McCarthy still gets to hire the new coordinator and that’s still worrisome if you ask me
All I want is 100% health from Rodgers & a top 10 defense.
The rest of the league will be ****ting their pants if that happens.