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Middle would be better for Clay because it's his left shoulder, which he must use as leverage to help get around the LT. In the middle, he can compensate or hide his injury. Either that or he's got to take more rushes inside the LT so he can use more of his right arm/shoulder and less of the left.

The issue there, of course, is if you know he's only a real threat to the inside that makes him a heck of a lot easier to block. 

As for Peanut: The real selling point on Tillman would be if they're going to be playing zone coverage on the back end. He's probably not much, if any,  slower than Hyde or Gunter and he knows WTF he's doing in zone.  The issue there is Gunter is better in press and I'd argue in some ways the safeties seem to work better in Man also. 

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Seriously, the whole Clay thing.  How many times have we seen LBs drop a pick, especially when they weren't looking for it.  Give it a rest.  ****, you'd think the whole season hung on Clay picking that ball.

Fandame posted:

Middle would be better for Clay because it's his left shoulder, which he must use as leverage to help get around the LT. In the middle, he can compensate or hide his injury. Either that or he's got to take more rushes inside the LT so he can use more of his right arm/shoulder and less of the left.

Did he say flipping sides helped him deal with the shoulder injury?  He's still hurt regardless of what the injury report says.  I think he would get that shoulder roughed up pretty good on the inside.

Goalline posted:
Satori posted:

Yup, rotation

Packers DL rotation shows Lowry with about 12-15 snaps/game and the same for Kenny Clark. Pennell plays mostly 5-tech and some NT, but GB doesn't use base 3-4 very often ( zero snaps vs Detroit). He would be useful vs Dallas OL, when GB will use more base defense. More Bigs can't hurt

As usual, the one person on X4 who actually watches the games before he speaks.

Some of us are posting dick jokes and memes so shut your Ghana hole.

What's interesting to me is that Capers had the absolute perfect call on that play and fooled Stafford - but the player failed to execute it. (Clay had swiped one from Cutler on the same zone blitz call last year)

But of course, we all know Capers sucks 

Hawkins was a healthy inactive the past 2 games, so it is unlikely they sign anyone.

If these two guys have better games than the 1st meeting, that would go a long way to helping the defense.

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Henry posted:

Seriously, the whole Clay thing.  How many times have we seen LBs drop a pick, especially when they weren't looking for it.  Give it a rest.  ****, you'd think the whole season hung on Clay picking that ball.

Well, they probably would've won had he picked that throw.



Henry posted:
Goalline posted:
Satori posted:

Yup, rotation

Packers DL rotation shows Lowry with about 12-15 snaps/game and the same for Kenny Clark. Pennell plays mostly 5-tech and some NT, but GB doesn't use base 3-4 very often ( zero snaps vs Detroit). He would be useful vs Dallas OL, when GB will use more base defense. More Bigs can't hurt

As usual, the one person on X4 who actually watches the games before he speaks.

Some of us are posting dick jokes and memes so shut your Ghana hole.

Easy! I come to X4 for the dick jokes, not the **** Satan posts. Who the **** wants knowledge anyway?

Satori posted:

What's interesting to me is that Capers had the absolute perfect call on that play and fooled Stafford - but the player failed to execute it. (Clay had swiped one from Cutler on the same zone blitz call last year)

But of course, we all know Capers sucks 

Capers failed to coach the part about catching the ball. #comperssucks

To watch it on replay is even more painful as Clay was looking right at him, looking right at the ball as it comes toward him, not averting his eyes before the catch to see what's upfield. Just stunning....

Goalline posted:

Easy! I come to X4 for the dick jokes, not the **** Satan posts. Who the **** wants knowledge anyway?

We give you people™ opportunities and all you want are more entitlements. Next you'll want us to post for you.

Not good news for Rollins?



Good news for Rollins?

Per Demovsky: Coach Mike McCarthy said the Packers are promoting CB Herb Waters from the practice squad. He'll replace Makinton Dorleant, who is going to IR with a knee injury. Waters, an undrafted rookie, started out as a receiver.

Hungry5 posted:
Goalline posted:

Easy! I come to X4 for the dick jokes, not the **** Satan posts. Who the **** wants knowledge anyway?

We give you people™ opportunities and all you want are more entitlements. Next you'll want us to post for you.

Could you? My password is , "Imisstheicon".

Dr._Bob posted:

But I think Clay was initially behind the bigs in the trenches, blocking his view of the ball and blocking Stafford's view of Clay, which is why the ball was thrown in the first place.

Clay lined up at his normal right side OLB spot. GB brought a blitz from the left side. Stafford recognized it and went to his hot read to the zone that should have been vacated by the blitz. Which was the right read. Clay rolled from rush to circle back into that vacated zone. Stafford never expected Clay to be there. Perfect defense design. Clay just dropped it. 

ChilliJon posted:

Randall, Spriggs, Cobb are practicing today. No word on Bulaga. 

Maybe Randall should sit. He and Rollins are not only banged up, but look confused, timid, and in the case of Rollins - slow. 

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Unfortunately. NY and GB in the Wild Card Round is like two monsters going at it in the Great Eight of March Madness. Dallas and Atlanta love it. Short lived though. I think the winner of this game is going to Houston. 

ChilliJon posted:
Dr._Bob posted:

But I think Clay was initially behind the bigs in the trenches, blocking his view of the ball and blocking Stafford's view of Clay, which is why the ball was thrown in the first place.

Clay lined up at his normal right side OLB spot. GB brought a blitz from the left side. Stafford recognized it and went to his hot read to the zone that should have been vacated by the blitz. Which was the right read. Clay rolled from rush to circle back into that vacated zone. Stafford never expected Clay to be there. Perfect defense design. Clay just dropped it. 

Right, I was just suggesting that as Clay rolled to his left, his view of Stafford was briefly obscured by lineman so that he was surprised when the ball suddenly showed up in his hands. 

I liked this part:   Washington    -    L  42-24   -  4-6   "...The packers found a new offensive weapon in Jared Cook (6 catches, 105 yards, TD)..."

Flash forward to the other day, in explaining what actually inspired the "run the table" comment, Rodgers made comments along the lines of, "Something just clicked with the offense in the second half of the Washington game, call it a 'comfort' or whatever..." 

Uh yep.  Just like I was saying at the time, a reliable TE and a running game was all Rodgers and the offense needed to turn it around.  Give him those securities blankets and everything would be fine.

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Goalline posted:
Satori posted:

Yup, rotation

Packers DL rotation shows Lowry with about 12-15 snaps/game and the same for Kenny Clark. Pennell plays mostly 5-tech and some NT, but GB doesn't use base 3-4 very often ( zero snaps vs Detroit). He would be useful vs Dallas OL, when GB will use more base defense. More Bigs can't hurt

As usual, the one person on X4 who actually watches the games before he speaks.

Eff that! 

I come here to spout all kinds of garbage.

You're actually watching the games???

That's absolutely not all Rodgers and GB needed to turn things around. Not at all. 

Jordy getting his wheels back. Adams getting his mind right. Mike keeping everyone focused. GERONIMO!!!

Cook has been part of the resurrection based on defenses having to account for him. Ty hasn't only become 2010 Starks. He's 2010 Starks that can go in motion to totally screw with coverage. That free's up other things. 

GB has become a matchup nightmare with moving parts in motion being orchestrated by the best QB in football. But it ain't just Cook and a running game. 

 

He already had Adams and Jordy and Mike and even Geronimo.  Cook and the running game were the missing pieces that put it together and made it work.

Balance, man balance.  You hear it all the time but you really can't be one dimensional in this league.    It was a problem all of last year.  You need all the pieces for an offense to click like this.

ChilliJon posted:

I'd love to have Eddie Lacy on Sunday. You put Eddie into this offense right now with Ty and Michael and I don't give anyone a lottery chance of stopping them. 

Throw in the Ripper too!

ChilliJon posted:

I'd love to have Eddie Lacy on Sunday. You put Eddie into this offense right now with Ty and Michael and I don't give anyone a lottery chance of stopping them. 

Heck yeah, just not last year's Eddie and not all by himself.

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