Haha
Scratch Boyle from this list.
The Packers unsigned free agents:
β Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) March 17, 2021
* Tyler Ervin
* Tavon Austin
* Marcedes Lewis
* Lane Taylor
* Jared Veldheer
* Kevin King
* Damon Harrison
* Montravius Adams
* Billy Winn
* James Burgess
* Will Redmond
* Tim Boyle
* Tyler Lancaster
* Raven Greene
* Parry Nickerson
Could we scratch King too?
@YATittle posted:Could we scratch King too?
Hell if thatβs your thing have at βer
So, how many Packer fans heads would explode if King finds nothing of note in FA and comes back here on a one year bargain "prove" it deal on the cheap?
Because that scenario is probably not nearly as far fetched as some would love to believe.
Kevin King was never as good as people thought going into the NFC championship, and he isnβt as bad as people think after that game. The 25-year-old has always been a slightly above-average corner, and thatβs still what he is entering free agency. A year ago β even with his durability issues β that mightβve earned King a contract worth at least $10 million a year. But with so many teams dealing with salary cap issues this offseason, he was never likely to approach that number. So whatβs his value? Even though heβs missed 23 games in four seasons, and even though his last impression will be hard for some GMs to forget, he could still do OK for himself on the open market. Slightly above-average corners are hard to find. Just ask the Packers, who have wasted high picks on Damarious Randall, Quinten Rollins, and Josh Jackson in recent years. Thatβs why theyβd be foolish to completely dismiss the idea of bringing King back at a reasonable salary ($4M plus incentives). He was their second-best corner last season, and if you look at his entire body of work objectively, he was probably better than most of the free agents whoβll be available next month. Nevertheless, my guess is that general manager Brian Gutekunst will choose to move on from King and let him continue to be the main scapegoat for what happened against the Buccaneers. But that would be overreacting to one truly awful performance. The Packers could do a lot worse than King β and they have many times in recent memory.
Wouldn't be surprised at all. I don't see how the Packers can do anything in FA anyways. They signed Jones, that's about all the ammo they have.
The devil you know...
...is still a devil.
I really wouldnβt mind because itβs not like heβs Estus Hood or Roland Mitchell
@SteveLuke posted:Anyone heard a peep about King since the start of free agency?
Brandon probably has but won't share with us.
If only he'd buy his cruellers at the Quick Trip....
My inside information* says King to the Lions.
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*Inside my head, that is.
If Kevin King departs, the Packers' first six draft picks in the 2017 draft will be gone after four years. Aaron Jones will be the only one left from the class.
β Zach Kruse (@zachkruse2) March 18, 2021
King
Josh Jones
Montravius Adams
Vince Biegel
Jamaal Williams
DeAngelo Yancey
Kofi Amichia
Devante Mays
Malachi Dupre
Got a really good one in Jones, but the 2017 class was overall a very poor one.
@michiganjoe posted:If Kevin King departs, the Packers' first six draft picks in the 2017 draft will be gone after four years. Aaron Jones will be the only one left from the class.
β Zach Kruse (@zachkruse2) March 18, 2021
King
Josh Jones
Montravius Adams
Vince Biegel
Jamaal Williams
DeAngelo Yancey
Kofi Amichia
Devante Mays
Malachi DupreGot a really good one in Jones, but the 2017 class was overall a very poor one.
The 2011-2016 drafts were consistently abysmal on the defensive side of the ball, but 2017 might actually be the worst of all given the resources that went into that side of the ball (top pick of round 2, another 2nd, a 3rd, and the top pick in round 4) ... and, of course, the decision to bypass on the guy who just received the 2nd most votes for defensive player of the year.
If King plays in GB next year, he better be paying the team to take him back!
Definitely in the minority viewpoint here, but Iβd bring back King if he could be had for a year on the cheap. Most likely any other FA the Packers could to replace him would have as many warts (most likely) and be as big of a question mark going into the season. And drafting a CB in the 1st round doesnβt mean much. King was effectively a 1sr Rounder, only a few picks away from where GB is picking this year.
I guess the rest of the NFL has been paying attention to King's play in GB as he remains without a job after just about every CB with a pulse has already been signed.
For those pining for King's return on a cheap deal, Bill Huber savaged him in an article yesterday ... "Kevin King endured a miserable fourth season. Heβs always been a bad tackler; his career missed-tackle rate is 18.5 percent. Too often β perhaps because of the labrum issues that dated to his time at Washington β his tackling amounted to throwing himself at the ball-carrierβs legs and hoping for the best.
King took a step backward this season. It cost the Packers in the NFC Championship Game, when he allowed two touchdowns (and of course the game-sealing penalty).
Almost nothing King could do could possibly erase the mistake of former general manager Ted Thompson bypassing ********* and drafting King in 2017. Itβs not Kingβs fault that Watt is a three-time All-Pro and one of the best big-play pass rushers in the NFL.
Put this on the tombstone of that draft: In four seasons, King β a man paid to cover β has five interceptions and 27 passes defensed. Watt β a man paid to sack the quarterback β has four interceptions and 25 passes defensed."
@SteveLuke posted:I guess the rest of the NFL has been paying attention to King's play in GB as he remains without a job after just about every CB with a pulse has already been signed.
Over 50 FA CBs (with a pulse) still available.
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The #Packers are re-signing CB Kevin King to a one-year, $6 million deal, source said.
β Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) March 23, 2021
A player the organization likes much better than most fans do (myself included).
Figured as much. He has no market and the Packers have no cap.
yeah, but for 6 Mill, couldn't they sign a guy like Steve Austin? He's got some closing speed, and a pretty decent vertical.
King wasnβt good last year. He appeared to be better in 2019. Letβs hope we see the 2019 version of him.
I still think the Pack may go CB in their top 2 picks.
Me too. They need the depth at minimum and replacing King seems to be a high priority. You don't sign a guy to a one year deal if you think he's the future opposite Alexander.
Plus, this defense sounds like slot CBs play a big role.
Yeah, pretty revealing that it's only a one year deal. Stopgap move that doesn't alter their draft plans in any way (CB remains a big need).
Surprised Brandonβs moles didnβt let him in on this.
They were too busy eating the cruellers.
We will see what the true numbers are on his "prove it" one year deal. I am guessing he can earn up to 6 million largely based on incentives (e.g. number of games played, INT's etc).
Again, I am making no excuses for his NFCC game. Any way you cut it, he played badly. But he also had a long stretch of games in 2020 IIRC where Rob Demovsky reminded fans he didn't give up a single TD.
So no, he was never as bad as some fans wanted him made out to be. And 2019 was a pretty good for him.
He was so inconsistent. His tackling in particular was atrocious compared to the Beast Mode Jaire on the other side. His football smarts are lacking, as evidenced by him thinking the Bucs on that last play in the first half would go for a quick out to get closer to a field goal, when they had no time outs.
Maybe a DC that actually knows what to do with him can get the best out of him.
Right now the Packers weren't getting a better option for $6M...everyone better than that was getting at least $10M or are seriously over the hill and big risk.
I think this seals the deal the Packers draft a CB in the first 3 rounds and groom him to take over for KK in 2022.
Itβs an insurance policy at this point. You know that they will likely draft a CB high.
Good move. At worst heβs a stop-gap they know and has played well for long stretches between injuries.
King is wildly inconsistent at corner. When he plays. And thatβs the real issue I have with the guy.
Heβs only played in 60% of Packer games since he was drafted.
So GB is back at square 1. Needing to draft another corner early.
To be fair, he was injured most of those seasons...
Kevin King coverage grade by season among CBs with at least 200 snaps
β Peter Bukowski (@Peter_Bukowski) March 23, 2021
2017: 123rd of 131
2018: 88th of 135
2019: 69th of 138
2020: 98th of 141
TLDR: Heβs been a below average NFL cover CB his entire career.
FWIW: Kevin King allowed only ONE TD the entire regular season.
β Eli Berkovits (@BookOfEli_NFL) March 23, 2021
Yes, he failed in the NFCCG, but judging a player off of one game is wrong and just lazy.
I'm not thrilled, but you could do much worse than King at CB2/3... pic.twitter.com/RNPOYq51ZR
@ChilliJon posted:King is wildly inconsistent at corner. When he plays. And thatβs the real issue I have with the guy.
Heβs only played in 60% of Packer games since he was drafted.
So GB is back at square 1. Needing to draft another corner early.
He's the MVS of the defense.
@YATittle posted:He was so inconsistent. His tackling in particular was atrocious compared to the Beast Mode Jaire on the other side. His football smarts are lacking, as evidenced by him thinking the Bucs on that last play in the first half would go for a quick out to get closer to a field goal, when they had no time outs.
Kevin King is mostly known for 3 things in Green Bay:
1) Being the guy Ted Thompson took instead of *******;
2) Coming into the NFL injured and then missing a lot of games due to injury in his first 4 seasons with the Packers: and
3) Being the worst player on Lambeau field for the Green & Gold in the 2020 NFC Championship game.
King regressed badly in 2020, and it was not like he was elite previously.
There was zero chatter about any other team being interested in the (26 year old) King.
And the Pack brings him back for another go round at a not exactly discounted $6M.
Hopefully, there is still time for Rodgers to re-structure his deal so Gutey can bring back Tyler Lancaster, Raven Greene, and Will Redmon.
@packerboi posted:We will see what the true numbers are on his "prove it" one year deal. I am guessing he can earn up to 6 million largely based on incentives (e.g. number of games played, INT's etc).
Again, I am making no excuses for his NFCC game. Any way you cut it, he played badly. But he also had a long stretch of games in 2020 IIRC where Rob Demovsky reminded fans he didn't give up a single TD.
So no, he was never as bad as some fans wanted him made out to be. And 2019 was a pretty good for him.
The part he really needs to prove is his health. Like others have said, there are worse options but King is damn near a 50/50 proposition to be on the field. They have to draft CBs. I don't know how Holman's or others development is coming but my guess is they have zero versatility and no one is subbing Alexander.