Morgan Fairchild works in the NFL offices?

I think the difference between Pete Rozelle/Paul Tags and Goodell is that Goodell's predecessors worked WITH the owners while Goodell works FOR the owners. I think Rozelle especially had the balls to tell owners to shove it and they respected him. I don't think Tags had the balls to get in the owners faces, but I think the owners still respected the office of the commissioner enough that they didn't push it. When Tags retired though, I think they realized it was an opportunity to get their own little puppet in as commissioner that they could completely manipulate. The owners used to be a part of the NFL, now the owners are the NFL. Goodell doesn't do anything without checking with Bob Kraft and Jerry Richardson first. So if you want to blame someone for crapping on the legacy of the NFL, look at the guys who are actually doing it. Goodell is just a puppet. 

According to the Associated Press, the NFL in April received a DVD containing the surveillance video of Ray Rice slugging his fiancée, despite Roger Goodell claiming repeatedly that no one in the league had seen it before this week.

From Rob Maaddi at the AP:

A law enforcement official says he sent a video of Ray Rice punching his then-fiancee to an NFL executive three months ago, while league officers have insisted they didn't see the violent images until this week.

 

The person played The Associated Press a 12-second voicemail from an NFL office number on April 9 confirming the video arrived. A female voice expresses thanks and says: "You're right. It's terrible."

I may have been born at night. But I wasn't born last night.

49ers Suspend Announcer After Comments Going After Ray Rice’s Wife

Oh I can still blame Goodell. I can because he is a puppet. He has no spine. He's not an NFL Commissioner. He's the CFO of the NFL Owners Association. 

I don't think it was lost on anyone how Tag's dressed down Roger with his investigation into Bounty Gate. 

Roger's an ass clown. 

Another great post, GD. Anyone who thinks that a fraternity with members like Jimmy Haslam and that mobster Zygi Wylf is going to upset their precious little money making machine is delusional. Goodell only goes when the $$$ bottom line is going to be impacted.

Kraft supporting Goodell is merely him trying to curry favor. "Hey Roger, remember when I supported you over the Ray Rice deal? Yeah, well it seems Bill has been illegally recording other teams again, so you're going to sweep that one under the rug."

Players want Goodell gone. But I still don't see him getting fired over this.

You're not wrong Chilli. Goodell has always been a spineless jag. The problem with the NFL is larger than just Rog though. 

I get a kick out of people who say they are fed up with the NFL and are going to only watch college football. College football is just as bad as the NFL. The NCAA doesn't have named owners, but if you think T. Boone Pickens isn't the owner of Oklahoma St. or Jerry Jones isn't the owner of Arkansas then you're sadly mistaken. These guys keep the players paid and comfortable while the HC's, AD's, and commissioners make sure the themselves, the schools, the conferences, and the networks have their pockets lined with money. 

It's lost on the owners that it's possible to have a commissioner that can grow the sport, revenue, interest, ratings while still letting them know he's going to make sure everyones best interest is involved.

Goodell could (should) start by telling the owners the blackout policy is a dinosaur. 

Anyone remember in the early 70's when Nixon tried to strong arm Rozelle on the blackout policy? At the time the blackout rule was all home games were blacked out whether they were sold out or not. So Nixon and the Attorney General went after Pete and tried to make him a deal that if he lifted the blackout for playoff games He (Nixon) would make sure nothing ever changed to the blackout policy in the future. 

Rozelle basically told them both to **** off. Manage everyone's interest. 

Goodell could step up and get rid of the policy once and for all. But he's too busy shilling for 18 game seasons and getting teams up and running in Tibet. 

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Its already been mentioned here earlier. But how hollow is all that pink going to look and feel like next month?

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Goodell could (should) start by telling the owners the blackout policy is a dinosaur.

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John from Grand Forks, ND

I, too, thought about Mark Cuban’s words on Monday night. I love football and can never get enough, or so I thought. I skipped the second Monday night game for sleep. Do the fans dictate when we hit too much? I worry what that season will look like for fans.

Vic: The fans dictate everything. If the ratings indicate they want less, the networks will adjust accordingly. I don’t see it as a concern. What I do see as a concern is the threat the FCC will repeal the NFL’s TV blackout policy, which could happen on Sept. 30. I think it’s a mistake to do that and I think it could jeopardize the futures of a lot of franchises that aren’t positioned as securely as the Packers are in terms of ticket sales. What happens to small-market franchises with tickets to sell when fans can see games without threat of blackout? Will the stadiums go empty? I don’t care what the imbalance of revenue is between ticket sales and TV, empty stadiums are not a good thing. What bothers me most about repealing the TV blackout policy is that it’ll reward the least-deserving fan. The ticket-buying fan is the backbone of the game. He and she create the atmosphere that makes the game attractive. This is not a good month for the NFL. It’s going through a very difficult period with the Ray Rice thing, and it’s looking down the barrel of this Sept. 30 FCC deadline.

downtime during the game?  I don't think I'm going where you're pointing but I'll get this off my chest here.  there is no downtime during the game any more.  that $&#@^*#@$ stadium board and sound system is always blaring unless the ball is about to be hiked.  when I started going in the late 80s there was quiet between plays except for a little down and distance announcement.  that time also allowed the fans to be fans and get their voice on the field (heckle the opposing team's players for me) and start chants and create revelry.  now everything is dictated.  fans used to start the GO PACK GO chant on their own.  now the big screen/PA does it - and I don't participate anymore.  it's constant and extremely annoying.

I remember going to a Bucks game in the late 80s and being pissed off because not once could I yell so that those millionaires could hear me "what the hell is going on out there?"  the NBA game was already where Lambeau is now - constant blaring of crap between the whistles, and even during the game at times.

(off soapbox, wiping brow, realize nothing will change)

Wouldn't be a deterrent in this case. 

Ravens Fans Explain Why They're Wearing Ray Rice Jerseys Tonight

Very good point.

Jesus ****.  

Yet the ticket-buying fan has been getting priced out of the market for years now. PSL's, the price of tickets, the way teams make these fans buy packages/playoff tickets, luxury skyboxes...

It seems to me the average "ticket-buying fan" is nothing more than a ebay/etc reseller these days, unless their team is doing particularly well or has an otherwise attractive matchup.

If I've told you once to quit calling me Jesus, I've told you a hundred times.

I understand why you'd be confused sometimes, but please stop. Thanks so much. 

Is it because you like to hang with hookers?

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/20...-ray-rice-nfl-owners

Kind of an interesting bit on Goodell's coghood.

Under Tagliabue, NFL franchise values grew by 11.7% per year.  Under Goodell? 3.5%.

Nate Silver: Overvaluing Goodell

That's a little unfair.....

There was a lot more room for growth back then. Now? Not so much.

There's only so many Warren Buffet's on the planet to pay for stadium seats & ridiculously high PSL's.

I understand the Silver article is a little skewed considering eras, but I referenced it from the perspective of, do they need Goodell to be successful? Couldn't just about any PR / Marketing / Financial Manager / Yes Man run the NFL?

Read an article last night that listed 5 or 6 possible replacements if Goodell were to resign (be fired). Packers Pres/CEO Murphy was on the list. 

In the article link I posted they posit that Goodell is meant to fail. He's a replaceable blame pinata for the owners to hide behind. While a little over-the-top it's hard to really disagree with.

Color me shocked.

To paraphrase Henny Youngman:  "Take my Pres/CEO, please".

Good riddens Murphy

really, Hank?  seriously, really?  Did you think of this all by yourself?

I'm on my 3rd glass of wine.   I know...PUI....Posting Under the Influence...

I just find it genius when so-called "religious humor" is subliminally thrown into a thread.  God gives me this urge to type in response.  It's weird.  All of sudden my fingers go to the mouse pad and click "REPLY with QUOTE" and then I'm typing.

I love reading Hank.  I'm sure God loves Hank!  hey...wait a minute...instead of "GO PACK GO"....it could be "God Loves Hank" cheer here on the board.

Thanks again Boris for putting up with the drunks before closing time.

I have absolutely no idea who is advising Roger Goodell and senior NFL leadership on some of these issues.   The Ray Rice event was a disaster, but he's basically looked the other way on the "alleged" Greg Hardy incident and who knows what's up with McDonald in SF.  Meanwhile, Josh Gordon gets a year suspension for smoking weed and Welker gets 4 games for taking uppers?

The NFLPU should have a field day with this.  Talk about the inconsistency of administering disciplinary action.

The NFL is arguably the most successful business in the United States and this is the best they can do?  Backpedal and rationalize and make excuses?   Meanwhile, they will look at every opportunity to increase revenues at any cost (pun intended).

There is a tipping point and all it will take is for one or two big corporate sponsors to walk away and this league will go down the toilet quicker than you can say Not For Long.  I have to imagine the next step for the league is to hire the best PR firm in the world and attempt to re-brand their product all in the name of ethics and integrity so they can retain their golden goose.

I find no scenario where Goodell survives the recent chain of events but he'll be no worse for the wear in the end and several months from now we'll all forget that this ever happened.  Violence and thuggery in the NFL is an accepted practice and has been for decades.   The only difference today is with Twitter and Facebook and instantaneous reporting there is simply more risk and exposure but it's always been there.  If the NFL really wants to make a meaningful change they will institute a serious policy regarding criminal behavior and they won't employ these players and owners that think they are above the law.   99% of most other companies would have fired Greg Hardy or Ray Rice or Jim Irsay by now.  Why the NFL thinks they should be different I'll never understand.  

99% of most other companies would have fired Greg Hardy or Ray Rice or Jim Irsay by now.  Why the NFL thinks they should be different I'll never understand.  

99%?  No way dude.  For starters, most other companies wouldn't even know their employee was arrested in the first place.  Secondly, I believe most companies are more interested in work ethic than personal conduct away from the job. 

Now, if you're talking about companies that employ celebrity type figures, your number might be in the ballpark. 

It greatly depends on the company in question.  Do you think restaurant, auto repair shop, HVAC worker or whatever company really cares that their employee was arrested for domestic violence?  I don't... as long as it doesn't interfere with their job. 

I know of many prominent members of my community that have been arrested... still employed. 

The bank president who got in the paper for spousal abuse got canned right away (though he is probably just a bank president somewhere else now).  I'm guessing any job where the public has a sense of who you are likely ends your public presence.  My buddy who works at the factory said they fired the rapist once all his co-workers said they would beat the **** of of him if they ever saw him again. 

Not sayin people don't get away with ****, but when the word gets out, it can certainly effect your job.   The factory makes its money delivering product to the manufacturers, who could probably don't care who makes the wire.  But once the work place gets hostile, the factory knew what to do to keep productivity going.  The bank knew a lot of women drop off their pennies at the front door, so getting rid of the pres after he was in the paper was good business.  The NFL knows there are a lot of moms, wives, fathers and husbands buttering their bread, so there needs to be at least some kind of perceived action or the consumers get pissed. 

Trust in the Maharishi ways

Are you saying Jeebus didn't like to hang with hookers?  Hell, I think he possibly married one.  Wait, she wasn't really a hooker, she just became one after the fact because the church "fathers" couldn't abide that kind of equality or influence on Jesus.    

Oh yeah, I forgot it's that inconvenient information about Jesus that doesn't mesh with the rest of the manmade crap you call religion.  

*this post is good for 1000 "christian persecution" miles.