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I've done my own dogs for years. But I received training recently on doing difficult cuts on things like poodles. I don't intend to do a lot of dog grooming and hiring an experienced groomer will be one of my first priorities.

I can wash them and dry them and clip their nails and clean their ears and do their teeth and stuff but for fancier stuff I'll need someone else.

I didn't get into this business to groom dogs. I got into this business to make money, be my own boss, and have control of my own time. I came close to buying a Marble Slab Creamery franchise instead but I'd have had less control over my schedule and I'd have had to hire teenagers. And I'd have had a lot more overhead because I would have needed to pay rent on a facility and constantly be replenishing supplies. Nothing against teenagers, but they aren't the most reliable employees and if they start giving discounts to their friends your profit can evaporate kind of quickly.

Essentially, once I have this business running and have hired a groomer to take over most of my time will be spent at home, watching TV, using the computer, and answering the phone. I have no intention of washing dogs for the next 10 years.
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Originally posted by Polaris:

I can wash them and dry them and clip their nails and clean their ears and do their teeth and stuff but for fancier stuff I'll need someone else.


OH HOW FAB-U-LOTH!!

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I didn't get into this business to groom dogs. I got into this business to make money, be my own boss, and have control of my own time. I came close to buying a Marble Slab Creamery franchise instead but I'd have had less control over my schedule and I'd have had to hire teenagers.


Sounds to me like you've missed your calling as an infomercial salesman. I have a buddy in Human Resources at Bryant & Stratton, I'll send you his card.
Wow, Rusty, nice attempt at sarcasm but you missed and just came across as kind of dull and rude.

No, I'm not interested in your buddy' HR stuff. I DON"T WANT A BOSS ANYMORE!!! I've had a boss most of my life, I don't anymore, and I don't want one. IF you do, then fine, do what makes you happy.

Once Upon A Time in this country, there was a school of thought that held that honest work was honorable and to be respected. I guess those days are gone, huh? I know it's not glamorous or high tech or anything....that's why I like it. It's simple!! Low overhead, low payroll, low tech. High profit.
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Originally posted by Polaris:
Groomers get 30% of the gross. Minus operating costs (van, insurance, gas, phone, credit card processing, royalties)of about $2500-$3000/month once I get past 120 customers/month


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Originally posted by Polaris:
I don't intend to do a lot of dog grooming and hiring an experienced groomer will be one of my first priorities.

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for fancier stuff I'll need someone else.


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Originally posted by Polaris:
I know it's not glamorous or high tech or anything....that's why I like it. It's simple!! Low overhead, low payroll, low tech. High profit.


So how much of the 30% of gross will your experienced groomers get? Fancier stuff, in almost all business, require higher costs. Something does not add up to this being a very profitable endeavor.
Well, the basic price for the basic package if $75. 30% of that is $22.50. At an average of 5.5 grooms/day, plus the tips, a groomer makes better than 30K/year.

When you start adding things on, the groomer gets 30% of that, too, so when you have something like shaving down a retriever in addition to the regular package the total cost runs up to about $130 and the groomer gets 30% of that. ($39).

You have operational costs, of course. I don't have to rent a space but I do have to make payments on a van, insure it and pay for gas and maintenance. There's also some advertising costs.

If you're only doing 100 grooms/month at the basic price that's 7500/month, minus $2250 to a groomer (unless you're doing it yourself), minus operational costs and you're only making $30K/year (unless you're doing it yourself, in which case it's more like 60K).

It's when you add that second van and start doing about 200 grooms/month that you start making money.
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Originally posted by Rusty:
Well he does have a point. It's not like I just finished substitute teaching, and now am now spending the summer taking three online classes and working at a farm. I am a bit of a lazy bum.


Is one of those classes a reading class? Because I never said teenagers were lazy, just unreliable employees. Ask anybody who hires them and they'll tell you that some are better than others but they generally aren't as reliable.
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Originally posted by Polaris:
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Originally posted by Rusty:
Well he does have a point. It's not like I just finished substitute teaching, and now am now spending the summer taking three online classes and working at a farm. I am a bit of a lazy bum.


Is one of those classes a reading class? Because I never said teenagers were lazy, just unreliable employees. Ask anybody who hires them and they'll tell you that some are better than others but they generally aren't as reliable.


But you never answered my question.
Simple searches for simple minds.....

Most of those are NOT mobile services even though they came up in that search. NONE of them are within 20 miles of where I'm doing business.

I appreciate your concern, really. But I've looked at the franchises books, talked with dozens of franchisees, ridden along on service routes, etc. I'm very, very confident that this business is going to do very well in San Antonio.

The few mobile services in San Antonio are Mom and Pop types and I think we'll compete very well with them.
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Originally posted by pablopackerfan:
Bring back the-icon. This guy sucks.


No kidding. I'm boring as hell. That's why I was so surprised to find there's this entire website with people in it that seem to have nothing more interesting to do with their lives than discuss me, where I live, and what I do for a living.

That's the only reason I'm here. I'll leave once you're all clear that I'm not this "the-icon" guy and you realize I'm not worth talking about.
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I'm not the one posting pictures of me, and telling people where I live, etc. etc. etc. I'm not the one who has me confused with somebody else.


Actually, yes you is. And you're also be the one who invites non-gays over for gay online chess and even gayer shaving dog asses.

Bring back the-icon, please MrQ.

that Mr Q thing has a lot of potential for some good-natured ridding too.
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Originally posted by Polaris:
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Originally posted by pablopackerfan:
Bring back the-icon. This guy sucks.


No kidding. I'm boring as hell. That's why I was so surprised to find there's this entire website with people in it that seem to have nothing more interesting to do with their lives than discuss me, where I live, and what I do for a living.

That's the only reason I'm here. I'll leave once you're all clear that I'm not this "the-icon" guy and you realize I'm not worth talking about.


Good luck with that.

I"m a rabid, angry, mean, nasty SOB (who still thinks he's rather funny) that will shred anything in front of me. No rhyme or reason, you're just meat.

One question, do you need help learning how to log out? Smash your face into the monitor until it goes black.
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Originally posted by naterpack:
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Originally posted by Polaris:
God...you are one stupid S.O.B. Do you wear a helmet?


Definitely the-icon. His personality is coming back out.


Polarisicon, is yous talkin 2 me? I is dum and I wear 2 helmets, and it looks like I might get the kudos for confirming Mark Q as the icon this last time. How do ya like dem puppies?
How can you confirm something which isn't true?

Boris has clearly stated that my IP number is from a very different part of the country. Smarter guys than you on this board (which includes just about everybody, as far as I can see) can clearly see that I'm not the same guy.

But no, little short bus Pablo continues to flail away under the delusion that we're the same people. You are a fool and worse, you are a fool who doesn't realize he's a fool.

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