I could stand to lose a few….six even 215 or so…. I walk strenuously 2 to 3 miles a day in the summer, plus hand mowing my yard and tending garden, gym in the winter. Much different from a ‘heavy’ guy who does little in the way of staying in shape. I’m 73, take no pills, drink a few beers, my doc says I am pretty lucky genetic wise and that, plus my lifestyle bodes well for me.
But…..who really knows?
@Tschmack posted:Not that I’m a big fan of the intermittent fasting but it is interesting how you can adjust your eating habits and holy crap your body will adjust as well.
I’ve cut back on dairy and beef but still enjoy things like ice cream and a decent ribeye. The challenge is not overindulging given typical portion sizes.
Growing your own stuff can also be a lot of fun but not always easy to do in Wisconsin in the colder months.
Sweet corn is the bomb.
I have been intermittent fasting for over 30 years now, but didn't know that was what I was doing until it became a "thing". I've never eaten breakfast and just started not eating lunch due to being busy at work. In addition, I eat because I love food and would eat just as much at dinner if I ate or didn't eat lunch. I do exercise quite a bit playing racquet sports and walking, but really attribute maintaining the same weight for over 30 years (I am 62) to my eating habits. In addition I have not had a fever or the flu in 35 years. Going to be tougher now that I am retired.
One of my school responsibilities was to coordinate our foreign exchange students. Almost every one of them put on a significant amount of weight in their year here. EVERY one of them commented on the availability and portion size of foods here compared to their native country that are not good for you as being the main reason for their weight gain.
It’s sick the portions of food at restaurants……I know they have to give more for the price they charge…..but damn. My husband and I ALWAYS buy one item and split it. Ugh, I’d be sick eating all that comes with one portion. 😳 😳 😳
Metabolism dropping off past 30 or 40 is certainly an issue. Prior to that I could eat or drink whatever I wanted and not gain a pound.
I run and do other cardio stuff but will admit it’s not easy nor is it fun. But it’s not impossible either.
Too many people I see look defeated but you have to at least make an effort. Hats off to those that do. To those that don’t? I’ll be subsidizing your bad habits and laziness with health insurance.
I was 6' 1" and around 100# in my 20's. Guys at work told me "if you stand sideways and stick out your tongue, you'd look like a zipper" I could eat like a hog and not gain weight, different metabolism I guess. Now I'm 69 and 2" shorter and weigh 180# people tell me I look great. Go figure.
@MichiganPacker2 posted:... It came up during the Field of Dreams game this week when two of the players tried to eat the corn in the field and spit it out because it tasted so bad.
Field corn. Used to turn beef into steaks and pork into bacon. It didn't taste good 60 years ago either.
@QuietOne posted:Field corn. Used to turn beef into steaks and pork into bacon. It didn't taste good 60 years ago either.
Yep. My grandfather was a state supervisor for Jacques Seeds. Instead of steaks and bacon it gets turned into Mountain Dew and Pepsi.
I'm 52 years old, 6'1" and about 185-190. I run about 8-10 miles a week and stay in decent shape for having a desk job. When I was in high school at the same height, I was about 145 and tried to put weight on by eating a ton of calories. It was tough to add weight when you spend all summer bailing hay and milking cows in addition to playing basketball and running.
My weakness is my lack of commitment to stretching. I know I have to do better at it or I'm going to hurt and Achilles or a hamstring badly someday, but I'd rather use the time running or walking and I'm stiff to begin with.
Stretching sucks but yes it’s really important.
A couple of years ago I made the dumb decision to race some of the girls including my daughter on my kids 12U softball team. Basically an extended 40 yard dash. I won the first race, then was feeling it and did another one and wrecked my hamstring for almost a month. As they say, if you are going to be dumb you need to be tough lol. The best part is that weekend we had a tournament and I was hobbled big time but our squad won their bracket. Go figure.
I now run about 20 miles a week but 2-3 years ago was almost double that so feel like a complete lazy ass all things considered. I’m currently 6’ about 175. 5 years ago in peak running shape - that year I did 3 half marathons and a full and one 10K was 165. I’m slacking big time yo.
My kid had 14u tryouts today and ran the bases in basically a little over 12 seconds. Speedy wheels. Had I tried it would have been ugly.
I saw people pull Hammies at the softball field all the time. Folks don’t realize there is a difference between jogging and sprinting. If you’re not use to it and you try to go zero to Sixty, you’re gonna pull something after you of a certain age.
Guys in great shape would try to bust out of the batters box and half way down the line would be gimping despite my warning them to take it easy. Fat guys who were accustomed to sprinting, no problem.
I’ve adjusted my running to do more sprints rather than just keeping an even pace or speed. It’s good advice for sure.
@Tschmack posted:Metabolism dropping off past 30 or 40 is certainly an issue. Prior to that I could eat or drink whatever I wanted and not gain a pound.
I run and do other cardio stuff but will admit it’s not easy nor is it fun. But it’s not impossible either.
Too many people I see look defeated but you have to at least make an effort. Hats off to those that do. To those that don’t? I’ll be subsidizing your bad habits and laziness with health insurance.
In my 20’s I could eat 4K calories and could hardly gain any muscle. In my 40’s I eat about 2200 while lifting 5 days a week to maintain. If I need to drop a few because of overzealous social schedule had me partaking too much, I gotta add biking and go down to 1800.
I find meal prepping to be key to diet success. I know what I’m eating for lunch and dinner 5 days a week and I most of it is prepped on Sunday. It’s rare that I find myself hungry without access to prepped healthy meal. Come Saturday, I lighten up a bit and enjoy the weekend a little. Couple light beers and burgers are fine but I’m not doing Pizza Hut or McD’s. If we’re out to dinner with friends, I get what I want because I earned it during the week.
@BrainDed posted:I saw people pull Hammies at the softball field all the time. Folks don’t realize there is a difference between jogging and sprinting. If you’re not use to it and you try to go zero to Sixty, you’re gonna pull something after you of a certain age.
Guys in great shape would try to bust out of the batters box and half way down the line would be gimping despite my warning them to take it easy. Fat guys who were accustomed to sprinting, no problem.
I had an interesting hamstring experience this weekend. Did a 40(ish) mile bike ride. Felt fine after that and on the drive home but spent about 45 minutes in the hot tub after that. Got out and sat in the deck swing to dry off. All of a sudden my left hamstring cramped up. When I went to get up the right one did the same thing. Awesome! But everything went back to normal after a shower. And before anyone talks about bananas I had one before the ride and another at the lunch after the ride. Fukkin aging.
From Peter Kings column this morning….
q. Radio Story of the Week: Xcaret Nunet of National Public Radio on a topic that every parent of a young person should be concerned with—what kids eat. Reported Nunet:
Two-thirds — or 67 percent — of calories consumed by children and adolescents in 2018 came from ultra-processed foods, a jump from 61 percent in 1999, according to a peer-reviewed study published in the medical journal JAMA. The research, which analyzed the diets of 33,795 youths ages 2 to 19 across the U.S., noted the “overall poorer nutrient profile” of the ultra-processed foods.
“This is particularly worrisome for children and adolescents because they are at a critical life stage to form dietary habits that can persist into adulthood,” says Fang Fang Zhang, the study’s senior author and a nutrition and cancer epidemiologist at Tufts University’s Friedman School of Nutrition Science and policy.
One reason for the increase may be the convenience of ultra-processed foods, Zhang says. Industrial processing, such as changing the physical structure and chemical composition of foods, not only gives them a longer shelf life but also a more appetizing taste.
“Things like sugar, corn syrup, some hemp oil and other ingredients that we usually don’t usually use in our kitchen, that are extracted from foods and synthesized in the laboratory, those are being added in the final product of ultra-processed foods,” Zhang said. “A purpose of doing this is to make them highly palatable. So kids will like those foods that somehow make it hard to resist.”
During the same two-decade period when the study data was collected, the consumption of unprocessed or minimally processed foods decreased to 23.5 percent from 28.8 percent, the study found. The greatest increase in calories came from ready-to-eat or ready-to-heat meals such as pizza, sandwiches and hamburgers, rising to 11.2 percent of calories from 2.2 percent.
r. Two-thirds of everything a kid eats being “ultra-processed foods.” Not good.
Aging and fatherhood. Double wammy. Used to be a sub 20m 5k and ~3hr marathon guy five years ago. Feel like I've fallen off a cliff, hovering around 8m miles these days. Messed up IT bands have put my marathon days to rest. The twins have probably killed my 5ks. But rounding the bend on 50 I feel pretty fortunate in not having any structural issued so far.
But yeah, I make darn sure I don't break into a sprint whenever the urge strikes. Learned that lesson years back. And I was a HS sprinter!
Mike Meyers did a funny SNL bit in the 80's/90's. Middle Aged Man. Funnier now. "I'm workin' on it!".
I'm down to mall walking!
Heavy Arthur Ritis in my back plus a spinal laminectomy. Surgery on both knees. I'm down to a Schwinn Airdyne.
Concur on the dangers of sprinting…I incorporated them (well, relative sprints) into my running regime a couple years back. During one, felt a discernible “rip” in the groin area that put me on the shelf for quite some time.
I’ve decided my cardio is better done on my Grandpa bike….gets my heart beats per minute to 150 for a good 60 minutes which is more than I can do running and the acl-less knees feel way better.
I call my self the “45/45 Man” . Goal is 45 miles of biking and 45 miles of total steps per week. That keeps me at a unfulfilled 5’11.5 193 lbs——I have the measurements of an N.F.L. cornerback…..but not the physique. 😀
@PackerHawk posted:I had an interesting hamstring experience this weekend. Did a 40(ish) mile bike ride. Felt fine after that and on the drive home but spent about 45 minutes in the hot tub after that. Got out and sat in the deck swing to dry off. All of a sudden my left hamstring cramped up. When I went to get up the right one did the same thing. Awesome! But everything went back to normal after a shower. And before anyone talks about bananas I had one before the ride and another at the lunch after the ride. Fukkin aging.
What I found, and more research is starting to substantiate, is that cramping is not so much about dehydration as it is a lack of sodium. I am a "big sweater" and found out playing racquetball tournaments, that once I started taking salt tablets I had no more problems with cramping. Now I eat very little salt, so I am probably typically low in sodium to begin with. Others who may get more salt in their diets may not have the same problem as I did.
Huh, good info. Saturday morning was relatively cool so I didn't sweat nearly as much as I would normally this time of year. Also had a burger and bag of Doritos after the ride so I probably got a pretty good intake of salt from that.
You earned those my man..
@BrainDed posted:That’s called an anomaly. Reality is, vast majority of diabetes and heart issues comes from poor diet. It’s self induced.
That's not an anomaly. Skinny fat is a real thing, and unfortunately very common. Being fat is not in itself a health hazard. Where you carry your fat is.
The problem is abdominal fat. Lots of people running around with thick hips and arms are perfectly healthy, because they have thin waists.
Abdominal fat, and there doesn't have to be a lot of it, will jack up your internal organs leaving them inflamed and your metabolic health all messed up.
Funny enough, being able to carry a lot of fat in your skin is protective of your metabolic health. The body will typically build subcutaneous fat first and only store fat in the abdominals when the skin fat is at "capacity".
An extreme example? Those 600 pound monsters you see on those crazy TLC shows? Most are perfectly healthy metabolically. Diabetes is not a problem for them. The reason? They can carry such ridiculously high subcutaneous fat that abdominal fat levels are lower. Of course, their poor hearts can't keep up with that mass, suicides are common and they tend not to live very long.
Had a running partner that swore by salt tablets. He was from Texas and used to running in the heat and got me going with them for a while. It does help especially when it gets toasty and you are sweating your ass off.
The other “aha” moment was avoiding sports drinks like Gatorade. That stuff gave me major digestive issues especially running longer distances. Water and maybe the occasional GU packets worked a lot better for me anyway. Some people pound Red Bull or Coca Cola before a race. To each his own. Or her own.
My reward after a marathon was a fried chicken meal including red beans and rice. That was amazing. Others would say avoid it but I was fine. Probably a healthy shot of salt (sodium) in that as well.
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@BrainDed posted:My dad is under 6’ and plus 300. He’s has had a triple bypass. My mother was damn near 300 and dies from heart disease. I put on 10 pounds during a 5 day vacation where I eat and drink whatever and as much as I want.
Yes, it’s not an even playing field but that’s not an excuse to have poor discipline. Because I’m at risk, and it seems genetically predisposed to be a lard ass, I work hard to stay lean and healthy. It’s not that expensive and it’s not that hard, it just takes discipline and will power. When the guys at work get cheesesteaks and fries, I eat my pre packed chicken, rice and broccoli. I use an hour of my free time to exercise five times a week. Of course I would rather get Arby’s and take a nap but I prioritize health over those desires. Simple.
High 90’s percent of the time it’s self induced.
Smoke show wife too?
And a Traeger.
@Tschmack posted:Metabolism dropping off past 30 or 40 is certainly an issue. Prior to that I could eat or drink whatever I wanted and not gain a pound.
Not exactly true. People just tend to excercise less and eat more shit when they are in their 30's and 40's and no longer interested in going out on dates.
Yes to both. Well, camp chef. It’s got the WiFi so I can tell my smokeshow wife when to pull the Boston Butt and wrap it even if I’m out yachting at the time, and I’m frequently yachting.
"Sweet corn is the bomb."
Yes, it is- to pretty much every creature on the planet. I grew sweet corn for the first time this year. As soon as the ears started to set I got cut worms, ear worms, cardinals, sparrows, field mice, chipmunks, squirrels. Something bashed down the chicken wire fence in one place- I'm thinking raccoon. I expect to see an elephant in there tomorrow.
Then you can shoot an elephant wearing your pajamas!*
*Paging Fedya for punchline.
This thread is like talking to my mother. We start out about McCarthy, and 10 minutes later, in the same conversation, we're talking about salt tablets. WTF!
Are you getting enough to eat? You need to eat more.
@grignon posted:"Sweet corn is the bomb."
Yes, it is- to pretty much every creature on the planet. I grew sweet corn for the first time this year. As soon as the ears started to set I got cut worms, ear worms, cardinals, sparrows, field mice, chipmunks, squirrels. Something bashed down the chicken wire fence in one place- I'm thinking raccoon. I expect to see an elephant in there tomorrow.
Mel Tillis tells a hilarious story about an elephant in Miss Armstrong's garden. Used to be on YT but it is gone. 
@tsr86free posted:IF McCarthy is canned at the end of the season...
Is this topic going to turn into a sequel?
@Packiderm posted:Mel Tillis tells a hilarious story about an elephant in Miss Armstrong's garden. Used to be on YT but it is gone.
Was the story shorter if he sang it?
Hateful (TM)
Plus, does anybody under the age of 50 know what you’re referring to?😀
In March of 2020 I was a hair away from Type 2 Diabetes and my bad Cholesterol was very high. My doctor recommended I go on pills to 'Manage" those two issues. NOT being a fan of any sort of pills I asked if there was another option and he said to lose 10-15 pounds. So I decided to get serious about losing some weight. I'm 60 years old, 6'3" and went from 274 pounds to 214 pounds with a normal blood sugar/Cholesterol level in 8 months mostly just by changing my diet. I eliminated as much refined sugar and refined/processed foods as I could. My goal was to limit my carbs to about 45 per meal, stay around 2000 calories a day and eat whole unprocessed foods ..... mostly. LOL Without even realizing it I had and have fallen into a cycle of intermittent fasting. I only eat between the hours of noon and 6 o'clock. Some days I wake up hungry so I eat something healthy but most days I totally skip breakfast.
I got a lot of strange looks after I lost all that weight. Most comments I got from people I know where "Are you OK ? " because they thought I had cancer or something. LOL It was kind of funny but it also made me realize just how out of hand I had let myself go weight wise.
Anyhow, I fell into the same trap that a lot of people in this country have fallen into believing that the Standard American Diet wasn't really all that bad for you. Eating a LOT of quick, easy to make or order food that tasted good but in reality is just total garbage for you health wise. I can definitely see where people in McCarthys position ( long hours/lots of stress job ) could easily fall into a piss poor diet like I did.
Well don, Geeman!
I don't give MM any slack because of his job. If anything, he has it easier than the rest of us. For about 6 months a year he has access to top notch nutrition and nutritionists supplied and employed by the team. He has access to top notch work out facility supplied by the team. If he asked, they would put the best bike or treadmill money can buy in his office.
In the offseason, he has the wealth and the time to make it easier for him than you and I.
He's a lard ass because he chooses to be.
