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The rookie got schooled by a veteran QB and a veteran deep threat WR. It's not ideal, but it's not cause for panic. How he rebounds will tell a lot about him. It's good we learned what his shortcomings were when we were up by 20+ vs. learning in a tight game though.

The defense went to a prevent D which allows for a lot of yards, but shouldn't be allowing a lot of points. The D needs to tighten up closer to the endzone...yards between the 20's are meaningless, but the DBs needed to finish them off when they got down in the redzone. Smith wasn't precise last night, they should have gotten their hands on more balls.  Lots of poor communication on the back end I noticed, Morgan Burnett was missed!

Kudos to the Tackles, both guys had a couple moments where they were beat, but I agree with whoever said those guys were generally a non-factor in the passing game. Offense needs to finish when the D hands them the ball at the end of the game. 3 runs for zero yards and punt doesn't help your D who were going all out for 55 minutes. They looked gassed at he end.

They do miss Burnett but Hyde is a good fill in.  It was a good game for the defense and I'm not worried about Randall at all.  Just some standard rookie lumps.  

 

I really think Bak's knee has been a issue for him.  Without a doubt they have gone up against tough rushers so far but it is a point of concern.  Having those hogs in front of Rodgers has allowed him to scramble effectively but I would hate to see Bak go down.

Originally Posted by Grave Digger:

       
The rookie got schooled by a veteran QB and a veteran deep threat WR. It's not ideal, but it's not cause for panic. How he rebounds will tell a lot about him. It's good we learned what his shortcomings were when we were up by 20+ vs. learning in a tight game though.

The defense went to a prevent D which allows for a lot of yards, but shouldn't be allowing a lot of points. The D needs to tighten up closer to the endzone...yards between the 20's are meaningless, but the DBs needed to finish them off when they got down in the redzone. Smith wasn't precise last night, they should have gotten their hands on more balls.  Lots of poor communication on the back end I noticed, Morgan Burnett was missed!

Kudos to the Tackles, both guys had a couple moments where they were beat, but I agree with whoever said those guys were generally a non-factor in the passing game. Offense needs to finish when the D hands them the ball at the end of the game. 3 runs for zero yards and punt doesn't help your D who were going all out for 55 minutes. They looked gassed at he end.

       


Great post. This was an incredible display of D by our team first half. Second half was garbage prevent.

Aaron Rodgers is amazing. Witnessing history.

I think that's the biggest thing with the prevent.  I don't begrudge the yards, they are burning clock.  But when the other team goes into hurry up it's the flip of the coin if the D is actually going to stiffen and hold them.

 

Fan PTSD from that ****ing NFCC game.

but I would hate to see Bak go down

no kidding.  when the announcers said Bak was slow getting up with his knee, I admit it, I panicked for a few minutes there.  danged injuries are wearing us pretty thin on offense...  pull together men, weather the storm, it's early.

Originally Posted by Henry:
Originally Posted by BrainDed:

 

starting to think Janis is mentally challenged.

 

Outside his ST play, he's a white Corey Bradford.

I actually never understood the infatuation with Janis.  Good enough for the NFL, but not good enough to start anywhere.  Special teams will do him fine.

Give KC's D some credit, they were getting gashed in the run game all night and then stiffened up when their O needed the ball back.

I'm not worried about Randall, Whitt will get him coached up. When I said Burnett was missed, I meant it from a communication standpoint. The CBs seemed to be struggling to know who had whom and where they had to lineup. I think Burnett gets them set, more so than Hyde. The communication between this game and Seattle was much different.

That's sort of what I mean though...even though we have Lacy, this really isn't a running team by definition.  They don't have to throttle back so much--let Aaron make plays with his arms to run out the clock too.  I know there is the risk of incompletions stopping the clock, but I have more faith in Aaron's ability to find an open receiver than I do in diving into the pile 3 straight times--especially when they are doing it with Alonzo Harris.

I'll have to watch again to focus on him but I don't see how Randall had a "terrible" game.  He was out of position on one completion and had a PI flag for mixing it up too much on another play.  Being out of position is a communication issue which has nothing to do with his ability.  I thought he had solid game with some bumps.  Laid a nice hit.

Packers D

- Opposing QB rtg - 79.2, that's 6th best in the NFL.  (this is the Stat Dom is most interested in as he believes it drives everything else)

- 11 sacks is tied for 3rd in he league - this is with CM3 playing a lot of ILB

- Tied for 10th in the league for INTs

 

 

 

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Smith was going against Ryan and Rollins much of the 4th qtr instead of Randall and Palmer and Thomas with CM3 moving to OLB and Palmer sitting. I know Randall gave up a few big plays, but he also locked down his man quite often. Grave Digger asked in the game thread last night after the last KC TD where Palmer was on that drvie? Palmer was then in on the failed 2pt. Coincidence?

 

 

It is really hard not to think Palmer might actually become a good ILB.  The two biggest complaints for our ILBs the last several years have been poor pass defense in the middle vs TE's and RB's, and making tackles 5 yds down the field if not getting washed completely out of the play.  Palmer has been spotted sticking to receivers down the middle of the field and getting out in front of good RB's to make stops on the perimeter.  Most exciting: he is very much still learning his position.  I haven't been able to watch him play runs up the gut so I don't know how he's doing there.

 

If the current D can stay healthy, I think we may finally have something here.  That first half performance, coming off of what they did to SEA last week, was damn impressive.  The prevent bent into circles but those were the play calls, not a lack of performance.  Other than a couple blown coverages.  Can't wait to see the DL when Guion gets back up to speed.

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Passer Rating Differential, what I think is the most telling stat in all of football, through week 3.

 

 

Differential 
RANKTEAMRATE
1Arizona59.2
2Green Bay56.2
3Buffalo38.0
4New England29.4
5Cincinnati26.3
6Denver25.3
7Tennessee23.7
8Carolina20.2
9Dallas19.7
10San Diego16.8
11NY Jets11.9
12Atlanta8.2
13NY Giants7.9
14Pittsburgh3.4
15Oakland0.6
16Minnesota-5.3
17St. Louis-7.4
18Philadelphia-9.2
19Seattle-10.1
20Baltimore-10.6
21Cleveland-13.0
22Houston-14.9
23Washington-15.0
24Kansas City-15.5
25Miami-16.3
26Tampa Bay-22.4
27Jacksonville-23.9
28Detroit-28.4
29Indianapolis-30.1
30New Orleans-34.2
31San Francisco-40.5
32Chicago-54.6
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+ Aaron sharing his burning hatred for Janis with a national audience. After the penalty, mics picked him up yelling "Get ****ing set, and let's go! Get ****ing set, and let's go!" with a look of pure hatred.

 

-Mike Daniels getting more expensive.

Really wish I could have seen the game, sounds like a missed a hell of a performance by AR and the defense (at least for a half....).  But what happened in the fourth?  I saw the update at 38-14 with like 10 minutes to go so assume a win and quit checking.  Then before I go to bed, I see it's 38-28 with an onside kick coming up.  Did the offense and defense just stop playing?  Did they go prevent?  I guess I can't complain since it worked but isn't this the third game we've seen an onside kick?   After the multiple nightmares in Seattle, these onside kicks and hail mary's make me way too nervous....

 

Oh, and a huge minus for me: Randall f$*king Cobb!  I was up by 34 point in fantasy and opponent had only Cobb left.......7 catches, 91 yard and 3 TD's later I lost by 1 point.  COBB!!!!!!!  

Originally Posted by cuqui:

quod erat demonstrandum 

@sfeder9: How in the world could A-Rod get a PFF rating of -0.8 last night? Flawed rating system? @PFF_Sam

Even better is the explanation of why the rating was not only low but deserved.

 

1. Rodgers had a fumble, which displayed poor pocket management, with 8:39 remaining in the second quarter. That play earned a negative grade.

 

2. With 12:58 remaining in the third quarter, Rodgers forced a pass that Josh Mauga could and possibly should have been returned for six points for Kansas City. If Mauga makes this interception, it would have tacked an ugly interception onto Rodgers’ stat line. Instead, Rodgers maintained his interception-less streak at Lambeau field, but it is a negatively graded play regardless. These are poor plays on Rodgers’ part that bring his game grade down that won’t show up on any widely quoted statistical analysis of his performance.

Yes. A fumble that didn't occur due to penalty, and an "almost" INT are the reason why he was graded as a negative.

 

Why, just imagine how bad it would be if during one of those free plays with the Offsides, he went for a home run and it got intercepted?  

 

I'd deactivate him next week.

CUPackFan:

Oh, and a huge minus for me: Randall f$*king Cobb!  I was up by 34 point in fantasy and opponent had only Cobb left.......7 catches, 91 yard and 3 TD's later I lost by 1 point.  COBB!!!!!!! 

I lost my FF game and had a whopper of a point swing.  At one time on Sunday, I was up by ~50 points.  Then my Buffalo defense went from something like 28 to 18. 

 

Packer game and I have Devonte Adams while my opponent has Rodgers and Richard Rodger.  As we know Adams went out and he netted me zero points.

 

Our league scores QB's pretty high.  Rodgers netted I think 43.5.

 

Unreal. 

Originally Posted by CAPackFan95:

Passer Rating Differential, what I think is the most telling stat in all of football, through week 3.

 

 

Differential 
RANKTEAMRATE
1Arizona59.2
2Green Bay56.2
3Buffalo38.0
4New England29.4
5Cincinnati26.3
6Denver25.3
7Tennessee23.7
8Carolina20.2
9Dallas19.7
10San Diego16.8
11NY Jets11.9
12Atlanta8.2
13NY Giants7.9
14Pittsburgh3.4
15Oakland0.6
16Minnesota-5.3
17St. Louis-7.4
18Philadelphia-9.2
19Seattle-10.1
20Baltimore-10.6
21Cleveland-13.0
22Houston-14.9
23Washington-15.0
24Kansas City-15.5
25Miami-16.3
26Tampa Bay-22.4
27Jacksonville-23.9
28Detroit-28.4
29Indianapolis-30.1
30New Orleans-34.2
31San Francisco-40.5
32Chicago-54.6


Great stat! Simplifying it a little more. In individual games through 3 weeks teams that have won these two stats; 1) TO differential 2) Average yards gained per pass attempt are 21-0.

Originally Posted by YooperPackfan:
+ It's a win and Aaron looked great!

- McCarthy's overly conservative approach when we have a lead, it cost us the NFCCG and some day it will cost us again. Keep the foot on the throttle!!

Agree with it. However, MM is no longer calling the plays so that's not on him...I think

It's the philosophy, which is old school.  Run and chew up clock.  Problem is it just doesn't work that well in a league tuned for aerial shows.  

 

Definitely chew up the clock and play it more conservative but move the sticks a couple of times.

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