Short week and people are clearly already freaking out about Kyler Murray and Deandre Hopkins so get it all out here. 
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Maybe we can replace Kyler Murray with Kyler Fackrell and see if the Cardinals notice.
I'm freaking out about just what a turnover is.
ha ha, short week, kinda like their short QB Murray eh??? Ok, ok, we’re gonna see and experience greatness with this team. I want to kick their ass and be their first LOSS. JMHO. 💚 💛 ♥️
Kyler is going to get his. Doesn't mean the defense sucks. It means Kyler is a fucking beast... GB simply needs to keep up and be opportunistic on defense.
I trust in 12 to keep up. Let's hope the defense can make a play here or there.
I’ll be in the stands for this one!!!!!!!
WOOOO HOOOOOO!!!!!!
Northeast corner of the end zone, first level, which should be to the Packer players right!
Don't worry, I'm picking the Cardinals and betting them on the Moneyline.
This is in the bag.💰💰💰
I'm hoping for a clean, injury-free game with no zebra controversy. Go Big Red!
Long time, stranger.
Packers have been pretty lucky the last 6 weeks. I think week #1 is more representative of this team.
We'll probably see that team again on Thursday
Nah, I'm thinking GB will make it closer than against the Saints but won't get over the top. GB's just not there yet.
Key to Cards is to let Murray run around, but the DBs have to be disciplined and stay with their guys. Don't give Murray any easy targets to hit while he's running around. Might want to review the film of all those Seahawks games when they had luck against Wilson's running around.
Cards open up -3.5 point favorite. No money line number yet on William Hill. Over / under is 53.
Im not touching the points but I’m going hard on that over.
Optimism is from the team often playing to the level of its competition. That said, still a skeptic of the defense and Murray is a huge test.
This is a game where you wish they had everyone available defensively and that’s not going to be the case.
The offense has to be much better this week than they were vs. Redskins, but that will be a tough task if the Cardinals D is at full strength. Let’s hope the offensive line cleans up its play over yesterday as that won’t cut it against a much more talented team like the Cardinals.
I think the offense is going to be just fine in this one. The key to me is to run the damn ball and play keep away. I also would never bet against #12 in a spot like this.
I do think the defense is just to thin to keep up with AZ. Not feeling good about this one especially on a short week.
In recent years, and certainly yesterday, the Packers' defense showed they have poor contain on plays that are breaking down. Heinicke is nowhere near as fast or elusive as Murray, so it's natural to think that he could run wild.
I still don't think Murray is as good as he appears to be this year, but it's hard to argue with the results.
We always have at least a puncher's chance because of the offense, so I'm not going to crown 'em before we play, but the Packers would have to play a perfect game to win.
JMHO.
3 deep Safeties, don’t allow him to chuck it deep, force him to check down and he will get frustrated and make a mistake. Spy him with Savage, contain the edges, push up the middle, football stuff. Murray is beatable, we need healthy DBs though.
Rodgers needs to do the D favors by sustaining drives and staying on the field. Patient with the run game, don’t let Jones tee off, get the ball out quick before Watt pushes through.
I just don’t like the matchup this week at all. Murray is the type of QB that will extend plays and our lack of depth on the back end is going to hurt them. I also don’t like the idea of Ertz running open in the middle of the field.
If the Pack were full strength especially on D with Jaire and Z and Preston I think they could hold up but I see them allowing a lot of big plays and I also see Murray busting some big runs.
Hope I’m wrong but I see something like a 34-20 type game.
#Packers defensive coordinator Joe Barry has tested positive for COVID-19, sources tell me and @RapSheet. He will surely miss Thursday’s game against the #AZCardinals, though he will be part of the planning virtually.
— Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) October 25, 2021
Jerry Gray would be the logical guy to take his place.
@Red Dawn posted:I'm hoping for a clean, injury-free game with no zebra controversy. Go Big Red!
First two might happen, last one is a long shot. I just hope the bad calls go in both directions and kind of cancel each other out.
@michiganjoe posted:#Packers defensive coordinator Joe Barry has tested positive for COVID-19, sources tell me and @RapSheet. He will surely miss Thursday’s game against the #AZCardinals, though he will be part of the planning virtually.
— Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) October 25, 2021
Ugh. With him being the rah, rah, in your face kind of guy now we gotta wait on close contact results and hold our breath on testing of players.
In his time as head coach of the Packers, MLF has proven to be very good at beating inferior opponents. Like really good.
However, Arizona is not an inferior opponent and beating an undefeated Cardinals' squad on the road, on 3 days rests, with a fairly depleted roster would probably be MLF's most impressive regular season victory to date. The Cards are favored for a reason.
Indeed, outside of RB and possibly safety, I am hard-pressed to see a position group in which the current iteration of the Packers is better than the Cardinals.
QB is where GB usually has a steep advantage, but that will not be the case on Thursday night. (That does not mean ARod may not outplay Murray on Thursday, but it does mean that such an outcome is far less likely than ARod outplaying the likes of Goff, Garoppolo, [the skeletal remains of] Big Ben, Fields, and Heinecke).
Moreover, Arizona's receiving weapons are so superior to GB's that it more than makes up for whatever slight advantage Jones & Dillon have over Edmonds & Conner at RB. And many fans around the country seem to be sleeping on the current #1 scoring defense in the NFL (a defense that almost certainly gets back its best pass rusher Chandler Jones Thursday night after a 2-game COVID-related absence).
Defeating the Cardinals in Arizona would certainly be a huge victory.
In any event, by thus far beating the teams they should have beaten (and by prevailing on the road against the up and coming Bengals) the Packers have set themselves up to win the NFC North yet again and a loss to Arizona on Thursday night would not detract from that goal too much - especially if Dallas can win in Minnesota Sunday night to keep the division lead at 2.5 games even with a Packer loss in Arizona.
Go Pack Go.
I don't think there's a better dome QB in the league than Aaron Rodgers. If the OL does their job the offense should put up 30+ on Thursday. Need the defense to do just enough to make that a winning score.
No big ST fuck ups, no turnovers and this is a game they can win.
The concern with Barry is not him missing this game, it's the possible spread to players.
I believe all the coaches are vaxd so he should be back for the KC game but if a unvax'd player gets it from him they could miss a couple weeks.
I'm not positive, but I think they are even concerns about missing time from close contact if they player is not vaxd. Anyone know the rules here?
@PackerHawk posted:I don't think there's a better dome QB in the league than Aaron Rodgers. If the OL does their job the offense should put up 30+ on Thursday. Need the defense to do just enough to make that a winning score.
No big ST fuck ups, no turnovers and this is a game they can win.
I think it depends on if Bahk plays and plays well. Jones will be back and they got JJ Watt on the other side. If Bahk can play and minimize the impact on the left side that means we can challenge those seams better with Bobby T and only worry about chipping the right side. Plus we get 1 of the 3 interior guys off the field and replace him with Jenkins.
My guess is that it will be Newman out with Runyon moving to RG. That said, I wouldn't mind seeing Jenkins at C until Meyers comes back. I think Patrick is the weakest of the group.
I'd be very, very suprised is Bakh plays this week. They will have virtually no practice this week. The trainers and staff would want to see how Bakh looks and feels after a full week of practice. I think he's back next week provided no setbacks.
@BrainDed posted:I think it depends on if Bahk plays and plays well. Jones will be back and they got JJ Watt on the other side. If Bahk can play and minimize the impact on the left side that means we can challenge those seams better with Bobby T and only worry about chipping the right side. Plus we get 1 of the 3 interior guys off the field and replace him with Jenkins.
My guess is that it will be Newman out with Runyon moving to RG. That said, I wouldn't mind seeing Jenkins at C until Meyers comes back. I think Patrick is the weakest of the group.
I don’t think 69 will be playing Thursday night. KC, yes.
ESPN: Sources -- Green Bay Packers DC Joe Barry tests positive for COVID-19, likely out Thursday.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story...d-19-likely-thursday
Jeezus, just adding another link
Yeah, earliest for Bakh is the Chief game. MLF has had a few road games where the team doesn't bother to even show up (Saints) and I just hope this isn't another one of those.
@Boris posted:ESPN: Sources -- Green Bay Packers DC Joe Barry tests positive for COVID-19, likely out Thursday.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story...d-19-likely-thursdayJeezus, just adding another link
Jerry Gray step on up...
Random thought...Chris Gizzi looks like he's eating a hair donut
@PackerHawk posted:I don't think there's a better dome QB in the league than Aaron Rodgers. If the OL does their job the offense should put up 30+ on Thursday.
Love the optimism, but question how anyone would expect that the Pack's O "should put up 30+ on Thursday"?
Arizona is currently #1 in the NFL giving up just 16.3 ppg and has shut down more prolific offenses than what Green Bay currently features.
Meanwhile, GB averages 24 ppg and has scored 24, 24, 25 (in OT), and 27 points the last 4 weeks, with 2 of those games being at home.
If the Pack is to win, I see a grind it out emphasis on the run game with time-consuming drives, not a shootout.
I mean, Arizona has the far more explosive offense and has scored >30 in 6 of its 7 games, so getting into a shootout would seemingly not be in GB's interests.
As for Aaron in the Dome, the last 2 games he has played in Arizona, he put up 20 (counting a Hail Mary to Janis to end the game) and 8 points (in a 38-8 beatdown), respectively.
He did put up 45 points in the 2009 playoff loss but that is a long, long time ago.
@michiganjoe posted:Yeah, earliest for Bakh is the Chief game. MLF has had a few road games where the team doesn't bother to even show up (Saints) and I just hope this isn't another one of those.
But if it has to be one, this might be the sacrificial lamb. It's still an NFC loss but if you take a powder (not intentionally) here then you have 10 days to better rest up the banged up and hope to come back strong vs. KC. Who is looking very beatable lately. Then 2 very winnable games vs. SEA and MIN before a big showdown vs. LAR.
Maybe recency bias but the rest of their schedule doesn't look as daunting as it did in August. LAR and BAL look like the biggest challenges left after ARZ.
On paper AZ should win the game.
Viks put up 33 in week 2 @ AZ.
Who saw NOS curb stomping GB in week 1?
And yesterday: NYG 25-3 over CAR? TEN 27-3 over KAN? DET hanging with LAR, in LA? IND 30-18 @ SFO ?
There's a reason they play the games.
I just hope they get out of the Arizona game healthy. These Thursday games are historically a recipe for injuries (especially muscle pulls/strains) from the lack of rest.
As I said in another thread, if this was the NBA where each regular-season game means much less, Rodgers and a few others would develop "back stiffness" or "knee tendinitis" and you'd concede this game.
A loss in this game obviously makes it much tougher to get that single first-round bye as they'd be essentially 3 games back of Arizona with 9 to play, but being cautious with any dings and nicks going into this might be more prudent long-term than going all out to win this one.
Is that the halftime score?
GB 40 - AZ 37 seems a more likely final score than yours.