My guess…he hires his buddy from the chargers and keeps fjb on the staff
@Floridarob posted:I am not a fan of Joe B but the Packers did not lose last night because of the defense. Unless you want to blame the dropped interceptions on him. If they make either of those plays we are all supporting Joe for an extension. Savage cost them at least 14 points. The dropped PI and the matador tackle on Macaffery both of which were embarrassing.
I don't think any other DC could have gotten any more from what was shown last night.
I would be surprised if he is not fired.
Savage also let a guy that is much slower than him (Kittle) run right by him for another TD. You could argue he cost them at least another 4 points on that (it was 3rd down in FG range).
From Alexander's reaction, it appeared that the safety (Johnson) was supposed to be in deep zone on the side that Kittle ran to, instead he ran to the flat to double Aiyuk.
I dont care who coach is tackling and assignment sure, too much to ask for?
Example 1 is Savage filling hole but whiffing on the 1st CMC TD.
Example 2 is the Kittle TD as I believe the young saftey did stay deep.
Aaron Jones is probably the second best Packers RB of the modern (starting when they hired Ron Wolf) era.
He does everything well, but the reason he was a 5th round pick is that he barely ran a 4.6 coming out of college.
Complaining about Jones is like complaining about being married to someone who looks like a supermodel, cooks like a gourmet chef, and treats you like a prince because she eats crackers in bed. Having said that, what do two of the most significant playoff "almost" big plays that resulted in no points in the MLF era have in common? Jones got caught from behind on both and the Packers missed FGs afterwards.
January 2022. Game ends 13-10 Niners. At the end of the first half, this play happened. Jones was in the clear and got caught from behind.
3rd & 3 at GB 11
(0:40 - 2nd) (Shotgun) A.Rodgers pass deep right to A.Jones to SF 14 for 75 yards (J.Tartt).- (0:26 - 2nd) Timeout #3 by GB at 00:26.
January 2024. Game ends 24-21. Jones gets caught on this one too, although the guy had an angle. The truly elite HOF-level RBs don't get caught on that. Jones is almost at that level.
1st & 10 at GB 10
(9:37 - 4th) A.Jones left tackle to SF 37 for 53 yards (C.Ward; D.Lenoir).
Jones does everything McCaffrey does except have that extra step to not get caught.
4.46 vs. 4.56 speed.
Joe Barry won't be fired. He can't be fired. His contract is up with the end of the season.
They can either chose to hire him or let him walk.
Ammo already made that clear. Just sayin.
Right, but everyone is saying fire him.
Thought the point needed to be reiterated. 
Technically, wouldn't his contract run until the beginning of the next league year in March? If so, they could still fire him.
@EC Pack posted:Right, but everyone is saying fire him.
Thought the point needed to be reiterated.
That's because we'd like to see him fired rather than just walk away like nothing happened because his contract is up. The mantra ever since Barry has been here has been "one stop, just one stop," and it's been so rare to get it.
@MichiganPacker posted:Aaron Jones is probably the second best Packers RB of the modern (starting when they hired Ron Wolf) era.
He does everything well, but the reason he was a 5th round pick is that he barely ran a 4.6 coming out of college.
Complaining about Jones is like complaining about being married to someone who looks like a supermodel, cooks like a gourmet chef, and treats you like a prince because she eats crackers in bed. Having said that, what do two of the most significant playoff "almost" big plays that resulted in no points in the MLF era have in common? Jones got caught from behind on both and the Packers missed FGs afterwards.
January 2022. Game ends 13-10 Niners. At the end of the first half, this play happened. Jones was in the clear and got caught from behind.
3rd & 3 at GB 11
(0:40 - 2nd) (Shotgun) A.Rodgers pass deep right to A.Jones to SF 14 for 75 yards (J.Tartt).- (0:26 - 2nd) Timeout #3 by GB at 00:26.
January 2024. Game ends 24-21. Jones gets caught on this one too, although the guy had an angle. The truly elite HOF-level RBs don't get caught on that. Jones is almost at that level.
1st & 10 at GB 10
(9:37 - 4th) A.Jones left tackle to SF 37 for 53 yards (C.Ward; D.Lenoir).Jones does everything McCaffrey does except have that extra step to not get caught.
4.46 vs. 4.56 speed.
It was almost funny watching Jones get caught from behind so easily on that play. I was watching the game with my son and we both looked at each other and laughed. He said, “Why is Jones running half speed?”
I thought I saw somewhere that Jones said he slowed down on that run because he felt his hammy twinge. Regardless, he got caught.
@Fandame posted:That's because we'd like to see him fired rather than just walk away like nothing happened because his contract is up. The mantra ever since Barry has been here has been "one stop, just one stop," and it's been so rare to get it.
I agree. Thinking about it, LaFluer has to make a change here.The defense at times plays well enought but in crunch time, Barry just cannot scheme a defense that can make a stop when it has to be made. Failed against Atlanta, failed against the Raiders, against the Broncos, Steelers, almost the Panthers, the Giants, and ultimately the 49ers. Just one stop would have won the game or given the offense a chance to win. IN all other games the Packers were either out of it, or did enought offensively to win. Thanks for your service Joe, but time to go.
Looks like Sean Desai and Matt Patricia are available. 🤷♂️
I can't believe Sirianni isn't available.
Can we rehire him on monday and fire him on tuesday?
@Floridarob posted:Thanks for your service Joe, but time to go.
Yeah.....it's simply time for a change & that will help not having things on tape too in 2024
Unless the new guy runs the same system, like Pettine - Barry.
Hopefully not. Need something better than 13th in Total DVOA...Defensive DVOA is 27th for the Packers. Something like the Jets have would be great 😁 3rd in Def DVOA.
If looking in portrait scroll to the right to see Def. DVOA
https://www.ftnfantasy.com/nfl/tools/team-total-dvoa
You'll notice..... The Final 4 teams are in the top 7 in total DVOA. Buffalo is 3rd, Dallas, Miami and Cleveland are 4, 6, 8 respectively.
Packers almost skewed the "analytics" almost. Tampa Bay winning would've been even worse
Jags just hired former Saints DC Ryan Nielsen.
Saints had the 6th best scoring defense and were 15th in DVOA ranking.
Joe Barry's unit climbed all the way to 27th in the final DVOA ranking.
Where was Barrys defense ranked in scoring this year
I want tackling focused on... plus a ball hawking defense, trying to Charles Woodson tomahawk out the ball. He was amazing at that
Per Matt Schneidman:
Quick housekeeping note: Joe Barry’s contract is NOT expiring, according to a source. Matt LaFleur has yet to make a decision on the future of his defensive coordinator, but it would be a firing and not a decline to renew if he moves on from Barry.
So much for all the "HE CAN'T BE FIRED, HIS CONTRACT IS UP" bean counters.
If they run him back they are stunting the growth of this team.
27th in defensive DVOA. He's never been higher than 20th in his career.
He can't be allowed to coach the defense. He can't!
The fact they even made it in the playoffs is a friggin miracle 
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@DocBenni posted:I thought I saw somewhere that Jones said he slowed down on that run because he felt his hammy twinge. Regardless, he got caught.
He has been caught a lot. Part of it is that he has such good vision and cutback ability that he gets into the defensive backfield and beyond a lot more than a typical RB. Part of it is that he just doesn't have another gear when he gets there. Ahman Green (even with the fumbling issues some years) was the best back of the modern Packer era. When he got into the DB, he was gone.
Jones's balance through contact is also elite. That with his physicality gets him a lot of extra yards after hitting the holes.
Ahman Green was a natural sprinter and a track guy. You could see that when he hit open field. I nearly get teary when I see some his highlights.
This is a very good description of Joe Barry's faults.
It looks like it could be written by any writer watching the Packers the last few years.
The frustrating thing is that it was written about the Redskins defense in 2015. Nothing has really changed in a decade.
https://bleacherreport.com/art...redskins-this-season
We get it, Joe. You love to rush four. The only other thing you seem partial to is rushing three. It's going to be a three-man rush or a four-man rush with some version of single-high safety Cover 1 or Cover 3 behind it. That, in a nutshell, ladies and gents, is the defensive scheme. Don't expect any variation, because you aren't going to see it. The problem is, neither is any quarterback on the schedule.
Barry's defense is failing on a fundamentals and a scheme level. Yes, his group has injuries. But it doesn't matter who suits up if the players can't execute essential techniques and play the situations smartly.
Even if those things are right, Barry's bland scheming is making it too easy to find big plays
Yes, Green had more "straight line" speed which complimented Sherman's blocking scheme that employed a lot of traps and pulling lineman. Jones' elusiveness and ability to cutback fits the Zone blocking scheme well. I do think that Jones is a little hesitant to really "open it up" since he strained his hammy doing just that vs. Bears on his TD catch and run. Surprisingly, on that play Jones ache=ieved the second highest speed of any player in the league that week.
@DH13 posted:Jones's balance through contact is also elite. That with his physicality gets him a lot of extra yards after hitting the holes.
Ahman Green was a natural sprinter and a track guy. You could see that when he hit open field.
when ahman green was even with the tackler he was leavin. Jones does not outrun many but he is tough as nails.
The confounding thing with Barry is how the hell is he able to get the same D that gushes yards and eventually points to crappy teams, keeping the better teams and QBs in the league in check? The better teams have a harder time exploiting soft zones? WTAF?
@MichiganPacker posted:He has been caught a lot. Part of it is that he has such good vision and cutback ability that he gets into the defensive backfield and beyond a lot more than a typical RB. Part of it is that he just doesn't have another gear when he gets there. Ahman Green (even with the fumbling issues some years) was the best back of the modern Packer era. When he got into the DB, he was gone.
So if there’s a good running back at 25 take him? If not why not?
Joe Barry is a fucking no talent hack and anyone that defends him needs to give up their man card, ambition and results card, and renounce USA at the same time. And that includes pretty boy MLF if he wants to go there.
This POS has skated his way to a job he’s surely not qualified for. Check the stats, review the KPIs, he’s a 4 time loser.
If you’ve worked long enough there’s a Joe Barry in your life. Some no talent kiss ass hack that got there not based on what they did but who they knew and may have sucked some D on the way there (pun intended).
Fuck him and anyone that supports him. Unless you believe the bottom 25% is sweet. Let Malaysia celebrate that suckage. Or some 8th world country. Fuck football you back this dipshit go support some 114th world nation where it’s OK to be 178th place.
I’m about America first and Joe Bury like 1500000000 next. Eat shit brah.
Fire Barry. Dont even waste time interviewing, here’s your new hire:
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@Grave Digger posted:Fire Barry. Dont even waste time interviewing, here’s your new hire:
What about experience?
