About 2 years ago...

 

"Yeah, it could all come unraveled," Manziel's father said. "And when it does, it's going to be bad. Real bad."

 

 

 

The Manziel family can't seem to stay away from trouble.

Couldn't have said it better myself.  He can't be an NFL QB and give everyone a reason to kick his butt.  But that is all he has accomplished so far. 

Teammate: Manziel was a “100 percent joke” as a rookie

Posted by Mike Florio on January 23, 2015, 3:46 PM EST

 

SNIP:

 

The article from Jeremy Fowler and Patrick McManamon paints Manziel as being everything that it was feared he’d be, and worse.  Based on interviews with 20 Browns sources, they’ve concluded that Manziel engaged in a “year-long pattern that showed a lack of commitment and preparation, a failure to be ready when given a chance in his first start against Cincinnati and a continued commitment to nightlife, which affected his preparation and work while in the team facility.”

 

As one unnamed player told ESPN.com, Manziel’s rookie year was a “100 percent joke.”

 

Last year at this time, Manziel was all about football, stubbornly refusing media requests as he stayed out of the limelight and (supposedly) focused on getting drafted as high as he could.  Ultimately, it was an Eddie Haskell routine that the Browns should have spotted.

“During the draft process, not one person interviewed by the team said he was going to grow up,” a source directly involved in the drafting of Manziel told ESPN.com.  “You can’t blame Johnny.  This is who he is.  The team knew that.”

(At the risk of being perceived as outing someone’s source, we can’t be the only ones who wonder whether that quote came from former Browns offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan, or from former Browns quarterbacks coach Dowell Loggains.)

 

It came to a head for the Browns on the final weekend of the regular season, when he didn’t show up at the facility on Saturday morning for treatment.  Per the report, team security went to Manziel’s apartment and found the player “drunk off his ass.”  The team put out the word that he was “late” for treatment on an injured hamstring; per the report, players didn’t see him at all until it was time to fly to Baltimore for the regular-season finale.

I'm so pissed that Jerrah Jones had the paper snatched from his hand to draft Manziel

At least he won't get Ryan Leaf money when he's cut this year but Jeebus, Browns had tons of red flags on this kid and blew a 1st rounder on this POS. If only the Vikings...*sigh*

I admit 100%, I thought Manziel was going to be the next Jim McMahon/Bobby Layne/Brett Favre in terms of being a guy who sampled the night life hard, but when the lights go on, he'd answer the bell. 

 

The scouts and doubters looked to be right about Manziel, because he can't throw from the pocket, teams have figured him out already and he's limited as to what he can do on the field.  Add to his on-field woes the fact that he's as spoiled and pampered as anyone who has ever entered the NFL, and he looks like another all-time bust.

 

Fully 100% admit I was a Manziel supporter before the draft, but the doubters and non-believers look like geniuses, and those like me that were fooled by the scrambling wizardry in college look like dunces. 

Bottom line....in the NFL you MUST read defenses as a QB, or you're all done

Manziel himself said everything I ever needed to know about him. In one sentence.

Before the end of this season he said (paraphrasing) "he was going to have to take this game a lot more serious". Absolute zero integrity.

 

However, the Browns are why they are the Browns. There's always some sucker that can't resist the fancy paint or shiny hubcaps and I have no sympathy for them.

No one to throw to, JFF

@AdamSchefter: Browns WR Josh Gordon flunked another drug test and now will be subject to a one-year banishment, per league sources. More on ESPN @ 6 pm.

 

@ProFootballTalk: As @AdamSchefter reports, Josh Gordon is facing one-year suspension.  Per source, Gordon tested positive for alcohol.

 

@ProFootballTalk: Because of his DUI, alcohol is one of the substances for which Josh Gordon was being tested.

I'm always a little surprised the union allows for guys to be tested for (and suspended) something that is not illegal and not performance enhancing.  

I had more than a few go to moves that I never would never have attempted on the dance floor without a little help.

 

Alcohol is a performance enhancer. 

pretty sure the audience disagreed 

That's debatable. 

Not saying every night. But when everything lined up I could bring it. 

Mel Gibson in Lethal Weapon?

 

That needs to be Brad Childress' head on the GIF.

quote:

Mel Gibson

Manziel drunk, and screaming anti-Semitic remarks? 

 

Looks like the only connections Manziel and Gordon may have made during their short careers will have been during Happy Hour.

 

 

I love Manziel's Snickers commercial.

It's like the producer was punking him and he's the only one who doesn't get it.

johnny foosball el deuce?  starting to smell like it.

of course this ol' fart just can't make himself embrace any aspect of "branding" and I hate it when people put the cart before the horse with athletics.

 

Winston files trademark for 'Famous Jameis'

"Fameist Rapist" was his first choice. 

He'll flame out... hyping yourself like that is a ticket to bust city.

Why? The guy doesn't even have the size to be an NFL QB. Mostly the size of the brain.

link?

 

 

 

 

That first guy could use some Bavarian drinking boots

They are weighted and keep you upright in low-gravity situations

First guy is the guy you want running the clock out in the 4th. Look at him hang onto that beer like a champion. 

Amen Boris.  I have to wonder a little bit if the Manziel fiasco will make NFL teams a little gunshy with the spread/spread option/pistol/air raid QB's that come out college right now.  I am sure there are guys who can translate their games but when you have guys who never have taken a snap from center, never huddle, call plays, read defenses, and can't throw balls in a tight spot.  In today's NFL I don't think there is any patience to give a guy a chance to learn. 

As for Manziel, I live in Ohio and I do almost feel bad for Browns fans mostly because so many of them rushed out and spent money on Johnny Fratboy jersey's right away.My step son was one of them and I had to see that stupid thihg around my house all the time.

Manziel Vikings jerseys would have been even better.

The NFL may well be getting over the love affair with the spread, athletic Qb's but I heard Bill Parcel say that the NFL has to take what the colleges deliver.   Until  best QB talent coming out of high school is  developed into drop back, pro style QB's in college the Manzeils, Mariottas, Griffiths etc is what the NFL has to deal with.

 

teams without a stud QB will have to either get by with a substandard guy who cannot get them to the promised land or gamble on who ever comes out, style/intangibles be damned.

All the more reason for a real minor league system.  

'Twould also solve the 'debate' over paying college athletes.

I'd rather have than tuition going towards paying them. (I have a very difficult time believing that athletics/boosters would be paying them 100%).

Rusty, my thought is to have a 'farm' system, although it doesn't necessarily have to be the same as MLB. The point is, if a college-age athlete wants to get paid to play, they give up their education opportunity and go directly into the farm system. 

If a student wants higher education, they give up getting paid, and play under NCAA rules. If they don't get drafted once they are eligible, they could sign with a farm team.

It doesn't have to be this exact scenario, but something along these lines.

LINK

 

Meh, just a water bottle.

Thrown by a weak armed QB. Nothing to see. Move on.

idiot favre - fans attacked Rodgers too, some even threatened bodily harm

 

Aaron handled it like a Pro. Note the difference

 

 

I want to see a celebrity golf tournament with complimentary, all you can drink, beer carts.

And mandatory interviews after 18 holes.

And hecklers.  Paid, professional hecklers.