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Originally Posted by Boris:

ST's & defense are part of the game last I checked.

 

Even so, the Packer offense still scored more than 10.

 

If anyone wants to step to the plate & place a small (or large) wager ONLY the Packer offense scores 10 or less, I'm all ears. Defensive & ST's scores wouldn't count for this wager.

 

I'm seeing a lot of the defeatist attitude for a team that has won 41 NFL games (including playoffs) over the last 3 years. We're not the Jets or Raiders here.

 

While the 49'ers are a good football team, they are NOT the 70's Steelers & the Packers are not a 4-12 football team. 

 

As long as the Packers stay healthy, nobody wants to play them & I assure you nobody is penciling a win over them.

I think they'll score at least 24 personally, but we can't just gloss over how bad the offense looked last year against them. They weren't as big of a problem as the defense, but they sucked. This time around, I feel like they will definitely be dialed in. The defense is going to determine whether or not the Packers get a win next Sunday.

Usually during the preseason, I develop a gut feeling about how well the season might go.  This preseason, I can honestly say, I have no clue.  Eddie Lacy gives me some hope as well as the improved D-line, and Finley (cough, cough).  But, I ain't drinkin the freakin Kool-aid!  I am not saying, the Pack is not a good team, just that I have no idea how this game is going to turn out.

the Pack are the 49ers bitches.  

 

So because they lost in 2 games last year, now all of a sudden the Pack "are the 49'ers bitches."

 

What were the Niners to the Pack the previous 20 years then??

 

Everything is cyclical. The Niners present an excellent challenge. FINALLY!  That doesn't make the Packers "their bitches"

 

Quite frankly, I was getting tired of beating them for 20 years. It was getting boring. It's about time the Niners "manned up". Now it's time for the Packers to do the same.

 

I get that most of their fanbase is a bunch of bandwagon jumpers & loudmouths when they're winning. Such as life in Cali.

 

They finally have the Packers attention. Let's see what happens on Sunday

Originally Posted by Boris:

the Pack are the 49ers bitches.  

 

So because they lost in 2 games last year, now all of a sudden the Pack "are the 49'ers bitches."

 

What were the Niners to the Pack the previous 20 years then??

 

Everything is cyclical. The Niners present an excellent challenge. FINALLY!  That doesn't make the Packers "their bitches"

 

Quite frankly, I was getting tired of beating them for 20 years. It was getting boring. It's about time the Niners "manned up". Now it's time for the Packers to do the same.

Yeah, during Lovie Smith's first 4 seasons with the Bears, it felt like the Packers were never going to beat them again. They only had two week 17 wins against them (one being a throw away game for the Bears, the other was against a 5-11 team) over that span. Over the next 5 seasons, the Packers went 9-2 against the Bears.

Originally Posted by Boris:

Niners 24

Packers 10

 

On what planet do you think the Packer offense will be held to 10 points vs. the "vaunted" Niner defense? Who they scored 22 & 31 against the last 2 times they played

 

To hold the Packers to 10 would mean Rodgers isn't playing.

Tough to argue with a guy whos always right, boris but...

+The Pack offense only scored 10 during most of the playoff loss.

+ Nelson and Cobb have had limited practice this offseason

+ We have a rookie 4th rounder starting at LT.

+ Half of TT 1-2 punch is out for the year. Running game have been pretty sloppy in the preseason games.

+I personally think MM and TT have been more worried in stopping SF than in scoring agains them.

 

Hope not!!! but ia ma not as confident as you are in this particular matchup.

 

Obviosuly, I am wrong and you are right

Originally Posted by Abracadabra:
Originally Posted by Boris:

Niners 24

Packers 10

 

 

+The Pack offense only scored 10 during most of the playoff loss.

 

The Packers had 14 after the 1st quarter and 24 at the beginning of the 4th.  How does that constitute to 10 during most of the game?

Originally Posted by ammo:

+The Pack offense only scored 10 during most of the playoff loss.

 

The Packers had 14 after the 1st quarter and 24 at the beginning of the 4th.  How does that constitute to 10 during most of the game?

 

No kidding. That's like saying "except for that 80 yard running play for a TD" they had no running game. "Logic" like that I never understand..

The Pack win 28-3.  GB defense contains Kap and makes him throw - which confuses him - and he throws 3 interceptions.  2 of those are pick sixes and Rodgers throws for 2 more to Boykin - just to make all the fantasy owners across the country scratch their heads. 

 

In a related story, Lacy asks for a trade.  Claimed he was mostly ignored with 2 carries for 10 yards. 

Originally Posted by Boris:

I'm seeing a lot of the defeatist attitude for a team that has won 41 NFL games (including playoffs) over the last 3 years. We're not the Jets or Raiders here.


No kidding, just look at this guy.

Originally Posted by KneeJerk:
If they feel the need to grab not one but TWO former Niner QB's & pump them for information. I'm "concerned" the Pack isn't going to be prepared at all for this game.

Niners 34
Packers 17

Never want to read too much into one regular season game, but I see it as a gut-check moment for the Packers. I'm less concerned with the final result than I am the eyeball test which tells me they can play with the Niners, which they failed miserably the last two times they've met. 

 

 

Originally Posted by Hungry5:
During a 7-gm stretch last yr the Packers ran the ball 48.4% of the time. That rate over the course of a full season would've ranked 6th in NFL.
 
 

..over the course of MM's tenure he has alluded to the fact that the number of times you run the ball is what is important. I think this was his way of saying "we have to run the ball just enough times that the defense still thinks they have to stop it". However, no matter how many times we tried to run it last year, the astute DC's kept playing us to "pass". We ranked something like 27th in yards gained by RB's, so A LOT of yards were left on the field. Every offensive move in the offseason was geared to take advantage of how defenses are now playing us. It will be very interesting Sunday to see if when AR audibles to a running play (because the defensive formation tells him that we should have better success than passing it), if we can make the defense pay with some good gains & make them play "run" more. 

I think the guys have been aiming for this game since it was announced.

National audience. Late game. 1st game of the season. Chips on their shoulders. 9 months to prepare for the read option. Perry and Datone dominate. 

 

Pack kick ass 28-14.

Think about this with San Fran: in 2010 they were 6-10 and got curbstomped by the Packers by about 20 points. They have 14 current starters who were on that team (the majority were starters then), and they have only 8 current starters who had no association with those crappy teams. This isn't some team that has been a juggernaut for years, they know how to lose. This is also a team that hadn't had a winning season in 8 years before Harbaugh took over. 


Niners - 24

Packers - 13

 

Packers O-line will get dominated and I don't see any drastic improvement from the Packers D.  

 

It doesn't make me a bed wetter to think we will lose to the defending NFC Champs on the road.  Carry on. 

Pack wins if and only if we own a +2 turnover differential.  Defensively it seems we've improved, and a healthy Hayward, Burnett and Jones helps out a bunch in getting to +2.  But are the latter two healthy enough?  Hayward is a likely scratch, yes?

 

Just hoping this SF v GB thing doesn't morph into the 90s Dallas v GB thing.

But the gut says we'll need to beat the 'skins to avoid starting out 0 and 2.

<<34-27>>

Originally Posted by michiganjoe:

Never want to read too much into one regular season game, but I see it as a gut-check moment for the Packers. I'm less concerned with the final result than I am the eyeball test which tells me they can play with the Niners, which they failed miserably the last two times they've met. 

 

 


This is pretty much what I am thinking. Let's see if the Packers can compete. If they are close but still lose, it is much different than getting blowed out.

If the Packers blow out the Niners I will be thinking SB.    

 

For this to happen the question marks at Tackle will have to have kept #12 clean all day and created holes for Lacy.  I don't see it happening, but stranger things have happened. 

I wish teh game was not the first one of the season. IT is going to be a tough sell to beat them in San Fran. I actually felt more confident before the playoff game than I do now but as MM say "We aren't anybodys underdog". Hopefully he pushes that mentality like he did against Houston last year.

 

Regardless, the Packers lost to them last year at home and would have beat them out for homefield if AP does not go crazy man the last game of the year. So win or lose it is still a long season and I trust the Packers will be better in November-December than they will be in September.

 

Heart says Packers 24-23 on last second field goal by Crosby of 52 yards. Head say 49ers 24-20 with a Vernon Davis TD over the middle behind Hawk with 30 seconds left in the game.

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