@lambeausouth posted:How many fucking runners have we left on in two games? Freaking unreal.
All but 5
Is there a link someone can set up to hear Bob Uecker do the bottom of the ninth? I can't get it here.
@MichiganPacker posted:That sums up the problems with the Brewers offense all year. Relying on young players who needed a little more time in the minors and Willy Adames swinging at the first pitch.
Willie Adames swinging at pitches outside the strike zone, too.
@MichiganPacker posted:Is there a link someone can set up to hear Bob Uecker do the bottom of the ninth? I can't get it here.
All I want is to get to another World Series for Ueck. But our tight wad owner will never make that a reality.
Keep swinging for the three run homer with one guy on. That’s it! 🙄
Counsell blew it by not pinch-running for Donaldson. Donaldson can't get double off there, so you can't blame him, but a faster runner would have made it.
Donaldson is slow. That's the kind of play that killed us this series.
Didn’t our last playoff elimination loss end with Yelich at the plate?
Yelich hits one off the wall. Tying run at the plate!
If Counsell pinch runs for Donaldson, they are down 2 with one out and guys on 2nd and 3rd.
Well, this is the guy we want at the plate. But he’s just hacking away. Typical.
Literally every decision Counsell made in the 2 game series seemed to end up being wrong.
Contreras strikes out. Brewers are done. Arizona moves on..
Get those stadium improvements and the sky is the limit
Not pinch running for Donaldson with Miller or Perkins was a dumb mistake. It's like Counsell goes deer in the headlights in the playoffs.
@MichiganPacker posted:If Counsell pinch runs for Donaldson, they are down 2 with one out and guys on 2nd and 3rd.
He's had a bad 7-10 days.
@MichiganPacker posted:Literally every decision Counsell made in the 2 game series seemed to end up being wrong.
I’m done with him. I’m beyond sick of hearing how great a manager he is. He has no feel for the game, and makes one boneheaded decision after another at the most critical moments. This team is soft, and undisciplined.
As far as I’m concerned, he can go fail with the Mets. I’m tired of his canned answers to softball questions from the spineless Milwaukee sports media.
If Counsell was going to do anything in Milwaukee, he’d have done it by now. Nine years is enough. Lying down to an 84-78 team twice in a row at home is the coup de Grace to his time in Milwaukee.
Sounds like Uecker is coming back, next year.
Brewers 1-4 hitters (Yelich, Contreras, Santana, and Canha) which are the ones that are major league level talents right now) go 8 for 16 with two walks tonight. If you add Adames to that we get to 9 for 17 with three walks.
The rest of the order goes 0 for 14. Frelick, Turang, Monasterio, Taylor, Winker, and Donaldson. All minimum salary guys. Sometimes you get what you pay for.
@MichiganPacker posted:Not pinch running for Donaldson with Miller or Perkins was a dumb mistake. It's like Counsell goes deer in the headlights in the playoffs.
What could he possibly have been saving Miller and Perkins for? You aren't going to pinch hit them for anyone else in the order. They can both play multiple defensive positions. You pinch run for Donaldson because there is no downside to it in that situation.
Caratini never got into the game either. Why not pinch hit him instead of Winker?
@MichiganPacker posted:Brewers 1-4 hitters (Yelich, Contreras, Santana, and Canha) which are the ones that are major league level talents right now) go 8 for 16 with two walks tonight. If you add Adames to that we get to 9 for 17 with three walks.
The rest of the order goes 0 for 14. Frelick, Turang, Monasterio, Taylor, Winker, and Donaldson. All minimum salary guys. Sometimes you get what you pay for.
Turang and Frelick are better on defense than they are at the plate.
Well that ended with a dull thud.
At least the 'Crew carried us well into football season.
@lambeausouth posted:I’m done with him. I’m beyond sick of hearing how great a manager he is. He has no feel for the game, and makes one boneheaded decision after another at the most critical moments. This team is soft, and undisciplined.
As far as I’m concerned, he can go fail with the Mets. I’m tired of his canned answers to softball questions from the spineless Milwaukee sports media.
If Counsell was going to do anything in Milwaukee, he’d have done it by now. Nine years is enough. Lying down to an 84-78 team twice in a row at home is the coup de Grace to his time in Milwaukee.
I'd actually like to see him with an actual major league caliber roster of hitters again. He was very good in 2018-19 when they splurged on guys like Moustakas, Cain, and Thames in free agency. Attanasio wouldn't even keep Boxberger last offseason for what would have been about a million dollars (they already had to pay out his buyout as it was).
He made shitty decision in this series (not pinch running for Donaldson is as bad as it gets), but his options are very limited relative to other managers.
Going into series knowing you are outgunned gives him no room for error.
@lambeausouth posted:All I want is to get to another World Series for Ueck. But our tight wad owner will never make that a reality.
If it wasn't going to happen in 2018-19, it's probably not going to happen unless someone like Chourio turns into the next Mike Trout or Bryce Harper.
Jeffress' meltdown against the Dodgers in 2018 and Yelich fouling the ball off his knee in 2019 are what did them in.
They've made the playoffs three times since but at no time did you feel they were a realistic World Series contender. They have been the equivalent of the 7th or 8th seed in the NBA playoff where even the players know they have very little chance for a deep playoff run.
Even if they'd have gotten by the D-Backs, whatever chance they realistically had to eventually get past the Braves and Dodgers evaporated when Woodruff got hurt again.
This team has been an absolute mess since they dealt Josh Hader. I truly think that set them on this path of going cheap at practically any cost, including the offseason nonsense of fighting our best player (Burnes) over like 100 grand and letting our best set up guy (Boxberger) walk for peanuts.
They didn’t do jack shit to improve the offense either last trade deadline or this trade deadline and the constant bullshit of getting guys off the scrap heap hasn’t worked.
Then you factor in making little to no attempt to express your desire to keep Counsell or Stearns and I’m sorry it sends a bad message to team that you are more interested in saving money than you are winning.
We may never see a time again in my lifetime when they had a pitching group of Burnes, Woodruff and Peralta along with Hader and Williams for a 3 year window. Yet they will end up having nothing to show for it. They can take their bites at the apple and shove it because they’ve wasted a golden opportunity. Just add a bat or two and who knows what this team could have been?
@MichiganPacker posted:Brewers 1-4 hitters (Yelich, Contreras, Santana, and Canha) which are the ones that are major league level talents right now) go 8 for 16 with two walks tonight. If you add Adames to that we get to 9 for 17 with three walks.
The rest of the order goes 0 for 14. Frelick, Turang, Monasterio, Taylor, Winker, and Donaldson. All minimum salary guys. Sometimes you get what you pay for.
I'm giving Frelick, Turang, Monasterio and Mitchell passes. They are all essentially rookies and will learn. Winker should have been DFA in July. Donaldson was a low cost chance to catch lightning in a bottle. It didn't work.
I want to also thank Blair Kiel for all his thread titles for the season. It was always interesting to see what he was going to come up with. You are a jewel. 
@PackerRick posted:And if anybody reaches base it's Owen Miller time.
More like Owen Two...
@MichiganPacker posted:Brewers salaries next year:
Yelich 26 million. Peralta 5.5 million, Ashby 1.2 million
Arbitration eligible and 2025 free agents: Burnes, Woodruff, Adames, Houser, Lauer. Burnes is certainly gone. Some of those others are probably gone.
Arbitration eligible and 2026 free agents: Williams,
Canha (11.5 million), Chafin (7.2), Miley (10), and Wilson (2.5) all have club options. I would bet Attanasio will decline them all.
If they could shed Yelich's salary, they might have trouble meeting the minimum salary requirements. Complete lack of any veteran investments. It's what you'd do if you wanted to sell the team.
Has the stadium financing issue been resolved, yet? If not, the Brewers may not stay in Milwaukee, anyway.
Thanks for the kind words ammo. The Brewers are what they are…my lifelong team that I will follow as long as they are in Milwaukee. I’m not an Anastasio basher like many here. They don’t have unlimited funds, but they strike me as always being active in terms of improving on a budget. There are about 6-8 really exciting young kids on this team who I hope give us contenders status next year. The Woody injury I think, sucked the air out of the room for them. 150 days ‘til pitchers and catchers report.
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@mrtundra posted:Has the stadium financing issue been resolved, yet? If not, the Brewers may not stay in Milwaukee, anyway.
From what I hear, they’re making progress. No way a team is lame duck for 6 years before moving. What would the city do with a $1 billion empty stadium. Pony up. And for those who say taxpayers shouldn’t finance billionaires….dream on on how the world works. You think the money would be better spent on bike lanes?
As they did with Stearns last season, the team will likely scapegoat Counsell for their failure to perform in the playoffs.
The problem is it’s a flawed roster with a flawed approach.
In their last 10 playoffs games they’ve scored 17 runs. That’s it. You think a Burnes doesn’t feel that kind of pressure every time he hits the mound?
I get this team doesn’t have unlimited resources. But how they couldn’t at least pull one bonafide bat in the Hader trade is mind boggling. This year, I hate to say but maybe they deal a top prospect or two for a guy that can hit now? I’m not talking a Freedy Freeman or Bryce Harper but holy crap we have to do better than a guy like Donaldson.
You had the pitching this year and next year to make a legitimate push. Even with the Woody injury. But you need guys that can generate runs and drive guys in.
People like to point at the Burnes arbitration ruling as a big negative and maybe just giving him the money would have appeased Burnes. But the truth is the arbitrator ruled in the Brewers favor and Burnes went right out and laid another playoff egg.
The Brewers were right in passing on Boxberger, he wouldn't have been as good as the relief pitchers the Brewers had. Maybe that was just luck but that's what happened. The guy is 35 years old, pitched 20 innings all season, and had an ERA of almost 5. Losing him clearly had no bearing on the Brewers season.