@Tschmack posted:The FT disparity in the first half of the game was clearly in Gonzaga’s favor.
An illusion. They were still banging and hacking away at ball handlers and rebounders. That Baylor got some fouls called didn’t impact the way they defended them.
It’s an illusion that at one point Baylor was +10 or +12 in FT attempts? It evened out in the second half but the Zags couldn’t take care of the ball and couldn’t control the glass. Not to mention that they really aren’t a 3pt team so once they got down double digits they were ill equipped to come back.
The difference in athleticism and energy was striking. In fact, other than Suggs and maybe Timme there isn’t another Zags player that would start for Baylor. Top to bottom Baylor was a better team and credit to them they took it to Gonzaga and played tough and fast and aggressive.
Vital was a monster on the boards.
@Tschmack posted:It’s an illusion that at one point Baylor was +10 or +12 in FT attempts? It evened out in the second half but the Zags couldn’t take care of the ball and couldn’t control the glass. Not to mention that they really aren’t a 3pt team so once they got down double digits they were ill equipped to come back.
I may have misread that- Gonzaga was ahead in FT attempts. That’s what the illusion was.
Not just a fat kid.
Meet Isendre Ahfua... 6’5” 330 lbs 14 year old who just got offered by ALABAMA 😳 @IAhfua (via @tfordfsp1) pic.twitter.com/QGhHkyde1E
— Overtime (@overtime) June 3, 2021
The Russell Wilson pick (3rd round) is still mind boggling. Dude had a fantastic season with UW and much like Drew Brees he fell due to his size- or lack thereof.
Did Mel Tucker sign his contract last week? Mrs Tucker prays he did.
OSU over MSU 49-0 at the half. LOL.
10 years, 95 million?
If OSU get the ball back, Stroud has a chance to go over 400 yards in the first half.
That makes the Gary Andersen 55-0 ass kicking look pedestrian
I have watched a lot of college football games, and that might be the most dominant half of football yet between two top 10 teams. I almost got the sense O$U could have scored another 7-10 points if they wanted.
Air Force just beat UNLV by 34 & did not attempt a forward pass. pic.twitter.com/CwoVkUsEeh
— Cole Cubelic (@colecubelic) November 26, 2021
1913 all over again. Wait, was there an Air Force?
They threw approx 100 times this year for about 80 yds pg, ran for about 350or so for a 9 and 3 record. Seems to be working for them
Yup, it’s all about higher education
@BillHefnerV: Lincoln Riley USC contract details (not confirmed; best I could do):
- $110 million
- USC buying both his homes in Norman for $500,000 over asking ($1 million bonus)
- Buying a $6 million home in LA for him
- Unlimited use of the private jet 24/7 for family
#Sooners #Trojans
@ilcuqui posted:Yup, it’s all about higher education
@BillHefnerV: Lincoln Riley USC contract details (not confirmed; best I could do):
- $110 million
- USC buying both his homes in Norman for $500,000 over asking ($1 million bonus)
- Buying a $6 million home in LA for him
- Unlimited use of the private jet 24/7 for family
#Sooners #Trojans
I mean, it's ridiculous, but it's still better than MSU giving Mel Tucker 95 million. MSU is in debt up to its ears over the Nassar scandal and making cuts left and right because of that but they get two donors to pay a guy that just got blown out by a team that won't even be in the college football playoff.
Brian Kelly now rumored to be on LSU's wish list. LSU and Oklahoma having openings is going to drive salaries up even more.
Has P J Flecks agent floated “Oklahoma interested in P J “ yet?
@ilcuqui posted:Yup, it’s all about higher education
@BillHefnerV: Lincoln Riley USC contract details (not confirmed; best I could do):
- $110 million
- USC buying both his homes in Norman for $500,000 over asking ($1 million bonus)
- Buying a $6 million home in LA for him
- Unlimited use of the private jet 24/7 for family
#Sooners #Trojans
My brother in law read that USC is also contributing 4.5 million towards his 10 million buyout from OU.
also Notre Dame just came open. Kelly to LSU
Dirty whores all of them. I hope the kids make $1mllion a year.
Lincoln Riley isn’t half the coach that Saban is and honestly he’s not close to Urban Meyer either. But U$C is so desperate they made the Mel Tucker contract look reasonable.
What I don’t get is why Dave Aranda didn’t get offered L$U gig. Brian Kelly is arguably the most overrated coach in college football.
Curious now who goes for ND position.
If I’m Jim Leonhard, that might be the right fit. Since Wisconsin is too arrogant and too stupid to fire Chryst there’s no reason for JL to stay. Or he could look at OU.
The money that Brian Kelly must have gotten in LSU must be staggering. Why would you leave Notre Dame where he's made the BCS playoffs multiple times to go to a school that just fired a guy (Orgeron) who didn't win enough games to keep his job less than TWO YEARS after he won a national title. Orgeron's LSU team finished up 15-0 by beating Clemson in the title game on January 13, 2020.
TWO YEARS!
Orgeron had basically one full season after that (2020 was obviously a wacky year for many programs because of COVID). If Kelly doesn't win immediately are they going to fire him and look for the next guy?
Alabama, Georgia, Oklahoma, LSU, Texas, Texas A&M, Auburn, and Florida are all in the SEC and all of them consider anything less than winning the national title a failed season.
Now hearing Kelly may have gotten 15 million a year at LSU.
Reupping this from 2 years ago.
I’m not sure Orgeron deserves a lot of credit for that program. That 2019 team was arguably the most dominant college football team assembled.
14 players from that team were drafted into the NFL including many stars.
They coached themselves?
Brian Kelly, a guy that probably finds Sprite "spicy", after trying the mildest of mild gumbo for the first time in Baton Rouge
In all seriousness, I'm just sending thoughts and prayers to the kids running the scissor lifts at LSU.
@Tschmack posted:Lincoln Riley isn’t half the coach that Saban is and honestly he’s not close to Urban Meyer either. But U$C is so desperate they made the Mel Tucker contract look reasonable.
What I don’t get is why Dave Aranda didn’t get offered L$U gig. Brian Kelly is arguably the most overrated coach in college football.
Word on all counts. Especially about Kelly. One of the biggest douches I’ve seen in well over 50 years of watching football.
@MichiganPacker2 posted:The money that Brian Kelly must have gotten in LSU must be staggering. Why would you leave Notre Dame where he's made the BCS playoffs multiple times to go to a school that just fired a guy (Orgeron) who didn't win enough games to keep his job less than TWO YEARS after he won a national title. Orgeron's LSU team finished up 15-0 by beating Clemson in the title game on January 13, 2020.
TWO YEARS!
Orgeron had basically one full season after that (2020 was obviously a wacky year for many programs because of COVID). If Kelly doesn't win immediately are they going to fire him and look for the next guy?
Alabama, Georgia, Oklahoma, LSU, Texas, Texas A&M, Auburn, and Florida are all in the SEC and all of them consider anything less than winning the national title a failed season.
Orgerons issues also was stuff going on outside football. He was hitting on the wife of oen of LSU executives who told Oregeron she was married and prenant but he said he didnt care, Boosters, getting pictures taking in bed with a woman not his wife and picture going viral, not interviewing coordinators hired and then having to fire them. He was a mess after the championship. He let all the glory go to his head.
Two hardest things in life to deal with...#1 Failure #2 Success
Former Packer Will Blackmon weighs in
Brian Kelly at first interview after practice at LSU pic.twitter.com/J4HneZqUVy
— Will Blackmon 🍷 (@WillBlackmon) November 30, 2021
Goalline not saying they coached themselves.
Obviously Dave Aranda is pretty damn good and so is/was Joe Brady.
Just not sure Eddie O is very bright nor should he take credit for their success.
Let’s also not forget Les Miles had a better winning percentage than Nick Saban at L$U, and it’s not like the Mad Hatter had a bunch of success at OSU or Kansas.
@Tschmack posted:Goalline not saying they coached themselves.
Obviously Dave Aranda is pretty damn good and so is/was Joe Brady.
Just not sure Eddie O is very bright nor should he take credit for their success.
Let’s also not forget Les Miles had a better winning percentage than Nick Saban at L$U, and it’s not like the Mad Hatter had a bunch of success at OSU or Kansas.
The 2019 LSU team might have been one of the most talented 5 teams in history. They might be the most talented offensive team in history. They had Joe Burrow throwing to Justin Jefferson and JaMarr Chasse and handing off to Edwards-Hellaire (all first round picks and Jefferson and Chasse are arguably both in the top 5 WRs in the NFL). The OL had at least 3 future NFL starters on it.
That team has already had 21 guys play in the NFL and they'll be more that get drafted this year (Stingley, Jr. is a top 10 pick this year). Assuming he stays where he's in the mocks. that's at least 7 first-round picks, 4 2nd-round, and 7 more 3rd and 4th round picks on that team.
@Tschmack posted:I’m not sure Orgeron deserves a lot of credit for that program. That 2019 team was arguably the most dominant college football team assembled.
14 players from that team were drafted into the NFL including many stars.
I updated below before I scrolled up and saw your post.
What’s crazy is Devin White was the 5th overall pick in 2019 and is probably a top 5 player at his position in the league and wasn’t even part of that 2019 winning NC team.
Much like O$U, L$U has produced a laundry list of dominant WRs and DBs. Like Alabama, Florida, Ohio State, and even U$C and F$U with the right coach you can compare year in and year out for the playoffs and national titles because of their ability to draw top recruits.
@ilcuqui posted:Word on all counts. Especially about Kelly. One of the biggest douches I’ve seen in well over 50 years of watching football.
Kelly started as a D2 coach at the university (GVSU) 15 miles from where I live. He started as a graduate assistant there in 1987 and eventually became the head coach and won two D2 national titles. He was beloved there and still actively donates to the school. Nobody begrudged him taking his first D1 job at Central Michigan. But he became a douchebag after that.
I have a close colleague who played for him at Central Michigan. He says he was outstanding as a coach, but when the time came for him to leave for Cincinnati they got a message that they would have a team meeting at 7 AM the next morning. He said Coach Kelly showed up with a tie that had Cincinnati Bearcats colors on it (the players had no advance warning) and told them it was nice knowing them, but he was off the next challenge and wished them luck. None of them ever heard from him again. It was literally the same thing he did at Notre Dame.
@MichiganPacker2 posted:Kelly started as a D2 coach at the university (GVSU) 15 miles from where I live. He started as a graduate assistant there in 1987 and eventually became the head coach and won two D2 national titles. He was beloved there and still actively donates to the school. Nobody begrudged him taking his first D1 job at Central Michigan. But he became a douchebag after that.…
After that?
Obviously not a Dale Carnegie protege.
Sounds like a real prick. He will get his, LSU will can him after a 2 loss season.
At the highest level, college athletics can create and embrace the scumbag element if you can win and compete amongst the best.
Look no further than Urban Meyer, Art Briles, Bobby Petrino, Jim Tressel, Joe Paterno, Bobby Bowden and yes, Brian Kelly.
@Tschmack posted:At the highest level, college athletics can create and embrace the scumbag element if you can win and compete amongst the best.
Look no further than Urban Meyer, Art Briles, Bobby Petrino, Jim Tressel, Joe Paterno, Bobby Bowden and yes, Brian Kelly.
And looking a little closer to home...
Bo Ryan and his massage therapist
And, let's just say Barry Alvarez was not a saint.
@ilcuqui posted:After that?
Yes. When he moved up to D1, he changed a lot, at least outwardly. This story is from when he had already moved up to D1 in the MAC, started having success at CMU, and was starting to get interest from Power 5 schools for openings.
He may have always had douchebag tendencies, but in the low-pressure D2 environment he manifested a very different personality. Back then, GVSU football games were over by halftime (his final year there GVSU won by an average score of 58-12) and he helped put the school on the map in the state of Michigan. It is a school in the middle of some fields and the first time most people heard of it was because of the football team. When he started there in the late 80s, enrollment was around 8,000. It's now 25,000. Obviously, he was just a part of that growth, but the focus of GVSU to become a powerhouse D2 school for athletics to get attention to increase enrollment really began with the football team. His last 3 years there, GVSU went 41-2, won two D2 national titles, and was the runner-up the other year. The indoor track and football facility (as good as any D2 school and better than anything in the MAC) is named after him. He still comes back to campus regularly and remains very well-liked in Allendale (unlike at Mt. Pleasant (CMU), Cincinnati, or Notre Dame).
The guy has won everywhere he's been at every level, and you can't blame him for chasing the money (and D1 titles), but he changed from being the small-time college coach that seemed happy and fulfilled at GVSU (for 13 years) to a douchebag. Of course, going from making about 150K to 10 million a year is too hard to resist for almost anyone, but when he finally retires, it will probably be back in Western Michigan.
Here's a 20 year old quote that looks like complete BS at this point, but was at a time when he was turning down other jobs to stay at GVSU (he finally left two years later).
https://www.si.com/college/202...s-notre-dame-for-lsu
A few years before that, Kelly was coaching Division II Grand Valley State. He had built the Lakers into an absolute juggernaut, and in 2001, he told me this:
“I didn’t come to Grand Valley thinking I was going to end my career here in coaching. I thought this was one of the stops along the way. But I found a diamond in the rough. I have what I consider the finest job in college football. I have the opportunity to compete for national championships and not have the trappings of the Division I arena, the incredible pressure to win at all costs. I have absolutely found the job I want.”
@Pikes Peak posted:Obviously not a Dale Carnegie protege.
Sounds like a real prick. He will get his, LSU will can him after a 2 loss season.
Yah, he'll get his. About a 30 million $$$$ buyout if they can him before 5 years.
He’s going to be expected to win national titles or at least be in the running (playoffs) every year at L$U.
He’s also going to play a tougher schedule including Alabama.
Not the same kind of pressure at Notre Dame.
