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Henry posted:

So Russ Ball didn't run the New Orleans salary cap into the shitter?  See, the reason why I know this is his mismanagement was actually an example used in a story about how management of the cap had shifted and why guys like TT and the Rooneys were building through the draft.  Lo and behold, Dwight shows up on our doorstep.  I didn't get it but I had faith in the FO to basically make his past failures moot considering how the cap was approached in Green Bay.

 

 

Which begs the question:  Why did Ted Thompson hire Ball away from New Orleans.....to manage the cap and negotiate player contracts????

It's not like Ball was fired from NO.  The Packers actually hired him away and gave him a promotion in the process.  

I don't think TT hired executives.  He controlled football operations.

Nope, I'm wrong.  Thanks Ted.

Pretty interesting reading the stories around Ball and the GM search.  TT wanted Ball.  Rodgers and McVince were having none of it and it appears the whole notion of Ball being the leading candidate was part of the exodus to Cleveland.  

That's one cohesive front office there.  

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TT was a personnel geek...a lot of people got enamored with that because he was on the Ron Wolf tree. But he fell short in the other leadership areas Wolf was so good in, and I think he knew it, and tried to hire people that filled the holes in his game.

For whatever reason, he was enamored with Russ Balls...and frighteningly enough, What Me Murphy was a frogs whisker away from making him GM.

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FinnLander posted:
Floridarob posted:

Arians was flopping his gums the day he was hired about how important experience is in the league for coaches. Of course, it was a dig to all the teams hiring young coaches.  Hope he crashes and burns with the bucs

Wonder how Bruce felt when he was a young coach breaking in . . . . 

I hope they go 0-16.....F 'em

Fedya posted:

Tell us how you really feel about Tampon Bay, Boris. 

That kind of makes me wonder what ever happened to Calbuc that used to post here.

My theory with him was that watching Tampa Bay football was like the equivalent of a boiling hot vat of acid being thrown right in your eyes 16 weeks out of the year, only getting a chance to heal during the bye week.   He's probably learning how to deal with the loss of his visual senses after watching too much Bucs football.

I don't hate this interview with Murphy.

If the idea is having two young guys in GM and HC positions to work collaboratively with Murphy staying out of the day to day decisions and making sure things don't get messy that would be lovely.  I still think it leaves an open door to pissy power struggles but then maybe that was another big reason for hiring Mayo LaFrog over McDaniels being his personality in itself was a good fit.  I'd also have to think Pettine's continued employment played into it, for which I'm glad to see happen.  Just on the face of it, GilbertGrape, Mayo LaFrog and Angry Bald Man don't come off as complete ego guys.  They enjoy the game more than stroking their egos and no one has a toupee.

I don't hate it but I'm still in wait and see mode.  Murphy ****ed up the TT/McVince shit show but then those guys were supposed to be professionals.  TT lost his damn mind and McVince can suck it.  I can understand caution of being more attentive so to speak.  I do like the overall idea they are building something with young guys, including Pettine, with new ideas in a collaborative environment.  

I don't hate it but I don't trust it quite yet either.  Vindicate yourself Murphy and tell Dwight he may actually have to do some work.

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It’s sounding more and more like the disconnect between the GM and HC was more serious than we think. If Murphy stays out of football decisions then there’s no reason this shouldn’t work (provided Gute and MF do their jobs). Notice he said a collaboration between HC and GM, RustyBallz and his position in the Devils Triangle power structure weren’t mentioned.

Henry posted:

I don't hate this interview with Murphy.

If the idea is having two young guys in GM and HC positions to work collaboratively with Murphy staying out of the day to day decisions and making sure things don't get messy that would be lovely.  I still think it leaves an open door to pissy power struggles but then maybe that was another big reason for hiring Mayo LaFrog over McDaniels being his personality in itself was a good fit.  I'd also have to think Pettine's continued employment played into it, for which I'm glad to see happen.  Just on the face of it, GilbertGrape, Mayo LaFrog and Angry Bald Man don't come off as complete ego guys.  They enjoy the game more than stroking their egos and no one has a toupee.

I don't hate it but I'm still in wait and see mode.  Murphy ****ed up the TT/McVince shit show but then those guys were supposed to be professionals.  TT lost his damn mind and McVince can suck it.  I can understand caution of being more attentive so to speak.  I do like the overall idea they are building something with young guys, including Pettine, with new ideas in a collaborative environment.  

I don't hate it but I don't trust it quite yet either.  Vindicate yourself Murphy and tell Dwight he may actually have to do some work.

Should have fired TT right after he had his stroke.

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