Personally would have preferred to keep Eddie, even fat Eddie. But if the offers were similar and he chose Seattle, well, that's on Eddie. Won't blame TT for letting him get away.
However I will blame TT if he even thinks about signing AP to replace Lacy.
packerboi posted:Eddie could run Phat. The problem is Eddie can't stay healthy Phat.
And his injury and subsequent surgery was far more complicated then initially thought. IIRC, I believe MM said at The Combine he didn't believe Lacy would be cleared to fully practice until TC.
Coming off major surgery + Phat are major reasons to believe he's not going to last a full season.
Yeah, I've never thought bringing him back, unless on the cheap, was a priority. I like Monty, and I will continue banging the Christine Michael drum. He's a strong runner, will be cheap. I like the *thought* of Charles, but not sure I like the reality and cost.
packerboi posted:Verified account
@RapSheet 21m21 minutes ago#Packers House gets 1-yr, roughly $3.5M, source said (while visiting Pitt today).House is hardly replacing Sam Shields but he'll be a decent 3rd/4th CB option. They still need a high pick at CB in the draft and thankfully it's a deep one for corners.
Rollins, Randall, House, Gunther and a new high pick. Not a terrible future 4some.
I'm not convinced they go CB high...largely because I think they are that stubborn and believe Rollins and Randall will be NFL starting quality CB.
I could see them bumping Rollins into more of a Micah Hyde role..and perhaps drafting a guy they feel will compete to start. But I do know this...if LaDarius Gunter is our best options at CB, we have a serious, serious problem. At least Shields could run.
CAPackFan95 posted:I like Monty, and I will continue banging the Christine Michael drum. He's a strong runner, will be cheap.
Kinda surprised by this take. C Michael is a dumbass and he struggled to pick up the offense in Seattle, Dallas and now GB. He's quick, but runs the rong way or hits the rong hole. OL were griping about it last year with a couple of veiled shots. With AR running an up- tempo offense and making constant changes, a dumbass RB seems like a bad fit. We'll see, he is certainly cheap and available.
I too like the idea of Jamaal Charles, but no clue if he has anything left.
Just read that the Packers signed Davon House to a one year deal for around $3.5 million. The article states House was cut by Jacksonville in a salary cap move.
House (4.50 in 40 coming out of college) is an upgrade in speed over Guntner, but like was pointed out, he isn't Shields.
heyward posted:Classic. The tone would be much different if Lacy signed that same deal with the Packers.
Concur. 1 Year prove it deal at that price would have been nice. I have to wonder if he gave TT a chance to match it because I would guess that he would jump all over that.
That said, Lacy isn't my cup of tea. I prefer a back with home run potential and at his weight and age, he isn't it. He has vision and quick feet that get him into space, but he can't close the deal.
Satori posted:CAPackFan95 posted:I like Monty, and I will continue banging the Christine Michael drum. He's a strong runner, will be cheap.
Kinda surprised by this take. C Michael is a dumbass and he struggled to pick up the offense in Seattle, Dallas and now GB. He's quick, but runs the rong way or hits the rong hole. OL were griping about it last year with a couple of veiled shots. With AR running an up- tempo offense and making constant changes, a dumbass RB seems like a bad fit. We'll see, he is certainly cheap and available.
I too like the idea of Jamaal Charles, but no clue if he has anything left.
Agree, pass on Michael. He flashes talent as often as he flashes his ineptness. It's just not worth it.
Michael is the type of player you sign in an emergency during the middle of a season.
Noticing a pattern here. Visit with Pitt and then wait for your contract offer from GB.
I like the House signing. I would have thought it'd be closer to $2m for one year but whatever. He'll compete with Gunter and Randall for a starting spot outside. And that's not praising House, it's an indictment of how bad Gunter and Randall were last year. Was hoping for Bouye but House is better than nothing (and nothing was a real possibility).
Still not sure a CB is the pick in the first. Drafting a CB in the first and expecting him to start is about as risky as hoping Rollins and Randall just pulled a sophomore "Davante Adams" in 2016 and will bounce back in 2017.
Christian McCaffrey or a pass rushing OLB is my guess.
Lacy's negotiating strategy insisting that he be offered more money because there was more of him flat out failed.
This could also signal MM may have bigger plans for 22 to carry the ball or short passing game. Not suggesting 22 becomes a #1RB but there is a definite impact a guy running people over and moving the chains has on an OL and an offense. That was one of Lacy's greatest assets.
Orlando Wolf posted:Noticing a pattern here. Visit with Pitt and then wait for your contract offer from GB.
Someone convince Patrick Peterson to take a vacation in Pittsburgh.
Not a fan of what I saw from Michael last year. Will miss Lacy but understand the decision. Looking forward to see the RB and DB plans unfold.
Goalline posted:Orlando Wolf posted:Noticing a pattern here. Visit with Pitt and then wait for your contract offer from GB.
Someone convince Patrick Peterson to take a vacation in Pittsburgh.
So Jeff Janis can school him every day in practice?
YATittle posted:heyward posted:Classic. The tone would be much different if Lacy signed that same deal with the Packers.
Disagree. I think most would think the price too high considering the questions....
I agree with YA. I'm glad they passed. Eddie couldn't keep his weight under control last year (after the couple months of P90X before the season) when he was playing for a multi-year. What would suggest he'd be able to stay away from the fridge after getting another 5.5 million dollars?
FLPACKER posted:House (4.50 in 40 coming out of college) is an upgrade in speed over Guntner, but like was pointed out, he isn't Shields.
At least House has proven that he can be serviceable CB in the NFL. We'll find out whether he has anything left.
He's not Shields, but guys that run 4.28 40s generally don't grow on trees and it is still mind-boggling how Shields was available as an UDFA. If they had repicked the 2010 draft after one year, Shields might have gone top 10 overall.
I assume House was signed to take Hyde's place.
I still cannot imagine we have a plan for Ty to get more than about 10 carries a game. Big Ty fan, just see him breaking down with more carries than that. Ty is a fantastic complimentary back, not a feature back, even in this pass first offense.
Vikings signed former Packers DE Datone Jones.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 14, 2017
Uh oh, that guarantees them a 6-0 start this year!
Lacy was really good but not quite great. That said, for a guy his size he was very shifty and once he got into a hole he was tough for one guy to bring down. When he was at his best, I thought he was a very good complement to the passing game. That said, it seemed like the last couple years he wasn't quite what he was in 2013-14. Was still pretty good, but not REALLY good.
He is still a pretty young guy so if Seattle can get him to flip the switch a bit, he could go back to being what he was not that long ago. I did want the Packers to sign him as a complementary back to Monty, but I think they didn't want to break the bank for a #2 back.
Eddie reportedly weighing 267 now. Beast Mode II maybe but what will the next injury be? Dude can't stay in shape. Probably good we didn't try too hard to keep him. I wonder what the price for Peterson will be?
I guess I would have considered Lacy to be the #1 back and Monty the #2/complementary/3rd down back. I don't think Monty can carry the load of being the primary back. I would try to limit his carries from the los to about 10-12 per game max.. I think he'd really be dangerous as a 3rd down back because he would be a threat to either carry the ball or be a pass option. Not a shifty Darren Sproles type 3rd down back but he'd at least be a duel threat. I can't stand those 3rd down empty backfield sets on 3rd and medium yardage or down inside the 10 yd. line because there's no threat of running or element of surprise for the D. Monty needs to work on his blitz pickup/pass blocking from the backfield a lot this offseason.
Still think we need to find a #1 RB to take Lacy's place.
Don't see Monty as a feature back either. My guess is TT finds one in the middle to later rounds.
I agree. I think he'll be looking to take a RB somewhere between rds. 3 - 5 depending on who he likes and how the draft plays out/availability.
michiganjoe posted:Vikings signed former Packers DE Datone Jones.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 14, 2017
The Minnesota Vikings announced Tuesday they've agreed to a contract with defensive lineman Datone Jones, who should provide depth to the front seven.
Adam Schefter and Adam Caplan of ESPN first reported the news.
Mike Garafolo of NFL Network reported it's a one-year deal worth $3.75 million but could increase to $5 million.
D Jones going to the Vikings is about as surprising as hearing Lacy showed up to interviews fat. Jones just never panned out. Didn't have the strength and size to play DE, didn't have the athleticism to play OLB. Maybe he'll do better in a 4-3 defense.
I agree about Jones CU. I think he'll actually play better as a 4-3 DE on a faster turf surface than he did for us. He was just never built to be a 3-4 end or a 3-4 linebacker for various reasons. I never really liked him as a #1 pick but I held out hope that he might become an asset. He seems to get close a lot and apply a little pressure but he never finishes the sack for some reason.
Had hopes for Datone. At the senior bowl he looked all-world, but he never was able to make the jump to the pros.
I have higher hopes for Dean The Dream Lowry then I did Datone Jones in 2017.
Bad first round pick by Ted, no sugar coating it.
Someone asked Silverstein if Datone was miscast as an OLB in the Packers' scheme. Tom's answer: "I think he was miscast as a first-rounder."
Here we go with Ted again. Last one out of GB turn out the lights please. Silverstein is right, it's a cocky organization, or at least Ted is. He's the ONLY GM in football, that purposely plans his FA moves around getting comp picks. That's absolutely ridiculous. Draft and develop, draft and develop...yeah for other organizations when Ted won't bring them back. The Packers have exactly 3 players left from the 2011-2015 drafts. 3. Great philosophy,,on top of sh*t drafting.
Team still needs CB's..and a rookie CB(CB's), isn't going to be the be all end all and solve their secondary issues. Now they need a RB(Monty can't carry the whole load), I'd love Jamal Charles as he'd fit this offense perfectly, but I know that's a pipedream with Ted. So many holes, and I'd assume he intends to fill them in the draft...Yippee! More of the same old, same old. Donta Hightwer would have cured a lot of this D's problems, as would have Malcolm Butler..Ted never got involved with either.
Don't gimme this they are running out of cap room...bullsh*t. They still have PLENTY of cap space(between $15-$20 mill), that is way more than enough if you structure contracts properly.
I'm Guessing Ted is done in FA, he's already cowering in a corner sweating profusely over the fact he actually signed an UFA. Lance Kendricks, and Davon House=Championship! NOT.
Ted is always the smartest guy in the room, and I bet if you asked him, he'd tell you that too.
Going back & looking at their combine performances, Jones was only one inch taller & 12 pounds heavier than Nick Perry, yet Perry had significantly better performance in every category other than 3 cone drill. As others have pointed out, Jones just appeared to be miscast in the 3-4 defense.
Best of luck to EL but honestly if he stays healthy or in shape for more than 4 games I would be shocked.
Was not a fan of the Datone selection at the time and while Ted has picked well at certain positions it's obvious that DL hasn't been his best work.
Minnesota needs a few more underachievers on their roster have at it Queens!!
With the reacquisition of CB Davon House, the Packers now have just 5 players on their active roster from the 2013, 2012, and 2011 drafts combined (players entering their 5th, 6th, & 7th years in in the NFL, respectively -- that is the primes of their careers).
That seems pretty low for a "draft & develop" organization.
Here we go with Ted again. Last one out of GB turn out the lights please.
Thank you, Positive Polly.
Possible RBs in play. Kareem Hunt, Wayne Gallman, Samarje Perine, D'Onta Foreman, Brian Hill, Matthew Dayes, Elijah McGuire. Between round 3 and 6. There will be RBs available to split carries with Ty. Would not surprise me to see Ted take two RBs, which has already been floating around as a possibility for GB in this draft.
