Of course many of us probably envision a draft like:
Grave Digger posted:If you see him as Darren Sproles then he's definitely not worth it,β¦
Hmmm, if you can draft someone at number 29 that would have the career that Sprouls has had, I'd say you did pretty well for yourself.
Now that we have Bennett and Kendricks, I really like the idea of drafting Butt and letting him red shirt a year. Wouldn't need him in 2017 but you'd be getting a first round talent in the third round when 2018 rolls around.
It's not entirely out of the question GB drafts Watt and Tankersley 1-2 next month. And I would rejoice with unbridled enthusiasm and many vodkas with fresh lemon juice.
Plan B could be Conley and Jordan Willis 1-2. And I would rejoice with slightly reduced enthusiasm but an equal number of vodkas with fresh lemon juice.
I'd be fine with Chipotle Awoozie and Willis as well. Chipotle looks like he's got everything you want in a number one corner. I just think the BFI, ass slapping, potential leadership, potential hair growth, and fist bump factor with Watt is too far off the charts to pass up on day one.
Helmet head's latest:
Nearly everyone now says Jones will be there at 29 now, perhaps slipping all the way to the 2nd or even 3rd. Is he 2017's Miles Jack? Would Ted really consider?
Sidney Jones says heβll play this year despite Achilles injury
Former University of Washington cornerback Sidney Jones was expected to be a high first-round draft pick before he suffered an Achilles injury while working out for NFL scouts at the schoolβs Pro Day. That injury will certainly affect Jonesβs draft stock, but he says heβs confident heβs going to be on the field as a rookie this year.
Jones wrote on Twitter today that he had surgery, it was successful, and his doctor tells him heβll be ready for the 2017 season.
βSurgery was great,β Jones wrote. βThe doctor said that I will for sure be playing this upcoming season #DontCountMeOut.β
CUPackFan posted:Or maybe Gunter just needs to be matched up on slower WRs. Or maybe he bullks up and covers TEs. I don't know what the answer is but it's definitely not having Gunter match up on the outside with guys like Dez Bryant, Odell Beckham and Julio Jones.
This. If injury forces you to the point where he has to be your #1, you protect the top and have him bully up front. At no point should he be in a foot race one on one down the sideline vs Bryant, OBJ or Jones. We saw that happen every #$%% week in the playoffs.
He has talents, they just were not used properly.
What Brainded said. Either Capers scheme was stupid or the players didn't execute it.
chickenboy posted:Hmmm, if you can draft someone at number 29 that would have the career that Sprouls has had, I'd say you did pretty well for yourself.
Sproles has 7,887 yards from scrimmage (rushing, receiving, special teams) in his 11 year career, that's an average of 717 scrimmage yards per year. Eddie Lacy has averaged 1,000+ scrimmage yards in 4 years as pretty much just a runner and some as a receiver. Sproles has had a nice career for a 4th rounder, but if we re-drafted the 2005 draft I definitely would not pick him in round 1. The pick at 29 needs to provide more than Darren Sproles has provided over his career.
RE: Sidney Jones...
I can't think of anyone who suffered a major injury pre-draft that has gone on to be an impact guy.
I may be missing someone though...
If it was a broken bone or something, no problem...torn achilles...torn ligament...if he's there in round 3 maybe...
packerboi posted:Helmet head's latest:
Dalvin Cook all the way to 29? I'd be all about that.
I got a feelin AL LB Foster is going to drop further than Kaper thinks.
YATittle posted:What Brainded said. Either Capers scheme was stupid or the players didn't execute it.
It could be a stupid scheme, AND the players weren't able to execute it anyway.
I don't see Thompson drafting players like Sidney Jones or Jake Butt because history has shown that he doesn't take injured players. Although I was thinking about Jake Butt a few nights ago and the situation would be perfect...Bennett, Kendricks and Rodgers this year while Butt is IR'ed and then next year would be Bennett, Kendricks and Butt. If this was the year Thompson had 12 draft picks it would be perfect but it's really questionable if Thompson has enough draft picks to use one on a redshirt player.
Dalvin Cook is a good example of where it would make sense to deviate from the best player available approach. Even if Cook comes out as the lone "top tier" player at #29, it would make perfect sense to pass on him for a number of reasons. Obvious one being the needs on the defensive side of the ball are greater. Second one being is the true value at the running back position may be in rounds four or five...really good chance the dropoff in talent would be less at running back rather than trying to find a starting LB (inside or outside) or CB that late. Third is that a 3-down linebacker or defensive back probably contributes more in the long run than a running back who probably ends up splitting time with Montgomery. So if Thompson gets to that point and he's looking at Cook versus a very attractive linebacker or cornerback...it would be pretty easy for him at that point to say the organization doesn't need the potential headache involved...Cook has a much higher ceiling, but since there is a lower floor due to character concerns we're passing on him and taking the defensive player.
Reuben Foster could be a dropper, no doubt about that. But it would be interesting to see him make it to #23 because, right off the top of my head, the Saints, Colts, Lions and Dolphins all need linebacker in a big way and it would be something if all four of those teams passed on him.
packerboi posted:Nearly everyone now says Jones will be there at 29 now, perhaps slipping all the way to the 2nd or even 3rd. Is he 2017's Miles Jack? Would Ted really consider?
Sidney Jones says heβll play this year despite Achilles injury
Posted by Michael David Smith on March 21, 2017, 2:24 PM EDTFormer University of Washington cornerback Sidney Jones was expected to be a high first-round draft pick before he suffered an Achilles injury while working out for NFL scouts at the schoolβs Pro Day. That injury will certainly affect Jonesβs draft stock, but he says heβs confident heβs going to be on the field as a rookie this year.
Jones wrote on Twitter today that he had surgery, it was successful, and his doctor tells him heβll be ready for the 2017 season.
βSurgery was great,β Jones wrote. βThe doctor said that I will for sure be playing this upcoming season #DontCountMeOut.β
Err, bull****! He won't see the field before August...of 2018.
PackerJoe posted:Although I was thinking about Jake Butt a few nights ago
That's a coincidence. I was just thinking about Scarlett Johansson's butt.
DH13 posted:I got a feelin AL LB Foster is going to drop further than Kaper thinks.
Foster is CJ Mosley. A prime Pro bowl long term prospect at middle linebacker. He's long gone early. He's going to be good.
"I actually had _______ going here to _______ earlier so I get the pick"
That's a Mel staple. Mel has 5-6 mocks before the draft and he shuffles his deck so he can say he saw it coming. I'm sure ESPN had him on every show today. That ****er gives himself a soft landing spot
I can promise without looking that he never had OJ Howard and Takk McKinley going top 10 and Hassan Reddick going 11.
Mel is a greasy **** that has somehow parlayed a complete guessing game into several millions each year.
packerboi posted:Helmet head's latest:
I doubt it will be a running back...unless the guy is the next Paul Hornung.
Packmeister posted:packerboi posted:Helmet head's latest:
I doubt it will be a running back...unless the guy is the next Paul Hornung.
Yep. Aint gonna happen. As noted by other posters its not Teds MO.
Besides we just resigned C Michael.
If Thompson doesn't take a great RB prospect because they have Christine Michael on the roster then we know he's had that stroke.
Packmeister posted:packerboi posted:Helmet head's latest:
I doubt it will be a running back...unless the guy is the next Paul Hornung.
Isn't Christian McCaffrey about as close as you'll get?
Herschel posted:If Thompson doesn't take a great RB prospect because they have Christine Michael on the roster then we know he's had that stroke.
I would find it hard to believe that Michael is anything but a body for camp. He didn't know where to line up after he'd been in Green Bay for two months.
RB and TE are very deep this year, so I'm crossing my fingers he takes one of each in rounds 3 and 4. Everything I've heard/read agrees that if you draft one, you're getting a prospect that's 1 round ahead in a normal draft (ie: draft a RB/TE in round 3 this year is like getting a RB/TE in round 2 last few years).
And probably right that TT wouldn't draft a red shirt guy but if Butt lasts to the end of the third, I just don't see how you can pass him up. Roster would allow it and third round picks don't typically contribute much their rookie years anyways, so not like you're missing an impact player. Going into 2018 with Bennett, Kendricks and Butt would be ridiculous.
Ted will draft a RB...won't be in round 1. Lots of RB depth his year...T-Mont has proven he has the chops to be an NFL starting RB. Michael is about two things...change of pace RB and ST. They also re-signed Don Jackson who will be their next Jim Starks.
I could see Joe Williams from Utah in round 3 or so to fill that hole, or Brian Hill from Wyoming. Both are tough, downhill runners, that played in the snow and didn't fumble.
In round one, TT seems to go with BPA at a need position with that player probably projected as a starter. I think it will be a CB or LB this year.
YATittle posted:What Brainded said. Either Capers scheme was stupid or the players didn't execute it.
Or both.
PackerJoe posted:I don't see Thompson drafting players like Sidney Jones or Jake Butt because history has shown that he doesn't take injured players.
So Justin Harrell - who had a long injury history in college - doesn't qualify?
Blitzing the safeties and leaving the CB's in man is more than stupid.
ChilliJon posted:DH13 posted:I got a feelin AL LB Foster is going to drop further than Kaper thinks.
Foster is CJ Mosley. A prime Pro bowl long term prospect at middle linebacker. He's long gone early. He's going to be good.
So you're saying he's gone before 15 (Kiper)? I was saying it will be after 15.
Ghost of Lambeau posted:PackerJoe posted:I don't see Thompson drafting players like Sidney Jones or Jake Butt because history has shown that he doesn't take injured players.
So Justin Harrell - who had a long injury history in college - doesn't qualify?
I think TT stopped taking that type of player after the Justin Harrell experience.
The Justin Harrell experience, is that part of the stadium tour?
Nope, name of my new psychedelic rock band.
GBFanForLife posted:The Justin Harrell experience, is that part of the stadium tour?
The could do a number of these types of things:
The Ezra Johnson experience (eat a hot dog on the field) would be a good one.
The Dan Devine experience....get a broken leg while standing on the sidelines.
The Brent Fullwood experience. I'm too sick to play but not too sick to party.
GBFanForLife posted:The Dan Devine experience....get a broken leg while standing on the sidelines.
Thank you Bob Hyland.
"...the gesture, from the sideline, in a caaaaaast....."
ha. I always thought he said "gesture" and was referring to Dan Devine in that song and it was about a Packers' game...the song was released 10/24/71 and that Packer game was 09/19/71....so, it could be ????
The players tried for a forward pass
With the jester on the sidelines in a cast
Now the half-time air was sweet perfume
While the sergeants played a marching tune
We all got up to dance
Oh, but we never got the chance!
`cause the players tried to take the field;
The marching band refused to yield
The Najeh Davenport experience.....OK, maybe not.
Packy posted:The Brent Fullwood experience. I'm too sick to play but not too sick to party.
Fullwood was rumored to have one of the lowest Wonderlic scores in history. This link says that a 10 is considered to a marker for the literacy level. Vince Young got a 6.
http://cornellsun.com/2006/03/...redictor-of-success/
Rumors suggest that former Auburn running back Brent Fullwood scored a one on the exam in 1986. The lone point was awarded for writing in his name.
MichiganPacker posted:GBFanForLife posted:The Justin Harrell experience, is that part of the stadium tour?
The could do a number of these types of things:
The Ezra Johnson experience (eat a hot dog on the field) would be a good one.
And a few years ago at alumni day: