you know, this is all crazy in tt's world. we have spent so much time, looking at guys, what I do know is likely will be nobody that any mock draft has slated. he will never draft a lb in the first (lol, cm3 is never happening again). never draft a rb in the first. never draft a te in the first. he will take a ol or dl, someone you never heard of or that the draftniks show going in the 3rd or 4th.
I know three things with complete certainty.
1. Ted will draft someone.
2. The Vikings Suck
3. YA Tittle will like this post.
Pre-Combine Mock/Guys to watch at Combine:
Round 1
Takkarist McKinley/OLB/UCLA
6’2”/258 lbs.
*Very athletic edge rusher with a very high ceiling. Already experienced as 34 OLB with high production.
Round 2
Budda Baker/FS/Washington
5’11”/190 lbs.
*Versatile and aggressive FS with flexibility to play Nickel and Dime Back
Round 3
Zay Jones/WR/East Carolina
6’2”/200 lbs.
*Prolific pass catcher (NCAA #1 all time in receptions) with a polished game
Round 4
Damontae Kazee/CB/San Diego St.
5’11”/185 lbs.
*Quick, smart Nickel Back with a nose for the ball
Round 5
Jamaal Williams/RB/BYU
6’/200 lbs.
*Tall, strong and versatile runner who has drawn Matt Forte comparisons
Round 5 (Compensatory Pick)
Kyle Kalis/OL/Michigan
6’4”/310 lbs.
*Good size, sound technique with the nasty attitude you want from OL
Round 6
Joey Ivie/DT/Florida
6’3”/300 lbs.
*High effort, highly aggressive grinder who will work well in a rotation
Round 7
Brandon Facyson/CB/Virginia Tech
6’2”/200 lbs.
*Talented, aggressive man cover corner who has struggled with injuries
Rounds 1-4 would be a dream draft. Takk McKinley is going to be a player. I think McKinley is going up everyone's board after the combine though. Freak athlete.
The problem with McKinley, IMO, is that he's not a complete player right now. He's an athletic edge rusher, but he's not a polished edge rusher and he's definitely not a polished run defender. His potential is very high, but he doesn't have the body of work that Derek Barnett has, he doesn't show the versatility that Solomon Thomas has, and he doesn't show the polished pass rush skills that Charles Harris does.
Honestly though, if he does rise then all that does is push a different pass rusher our way. Derek Barnett or Charles Harris or Taco Charlton would all be great picks. They're each very different, but all would be good picks in the long run.
Best attribute for Takk is that he never stops. He's raw. He relies way too much on his ability. But the guy is relentless. You stop him he'll figure out a way around it. He's probably flash and fail as a rookie but he doesn't stop going.
Wow, I've had all of your first 5 guys in some of my mocks!
I too liked Takk in the first round. He kinda plays wild and reminds me of Clay. Both good and bad traits.
Pretty sure Ted will draft this guy on name only...
Compensatory picks announced:
GB gets a 5th rounder for losing Hayward and Tolzien
https://nflcommunications.com/...ces-to-16-Clubs.aspx
Only a 5th for the best CB in the NFL last season and the best backup QB since Earl Morrall?
Takk McKinley needs shoulder surgery/5-6 month recovery
He was a borderline 1st rounder before this news, have to think this will make some teams think twice about taking him that early. Might be available to GB in round 2.
Just to make it easy....All Packer picks below. Remember, Comp picks can be traded this year
- Round 1, pick 29: #29 overall
- Round 2, pick 29: #61 overall
- Round 3, pick 29: #93 overall
- Round 4, pick 28*: #134 overall
- Round 5, pick 29: #174 overall
- Round 5, pick 39 (compensatory): #184 overall
- Round 6, pick 29: #214 overall
- Round 7: #249 overall
Just curious...why do the 'gaps' between picks become much wider after the 3rd round? Are there that many compensatory picks at the end of the 3rd?
ChilliJon posted:I know three things with complete certainty.
3. YA Tittle will like this post.
He's big into positive reinforcement. YA Smalley.
Timmy! posted:Just curious...why do the 'gaps' between picks become much wider after the 3rd round? Are there that many compensatory picks at the end of the 3rd?
I believe there were 11 3rd round picks this year.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/...rs-attending-combine
Sorry 2 the suckers that have to go to the cattle auction this week! Don't forget to lie to teams and say how much "fun" it is! #combine
Joe Thomas was asked:
2) if I had to be a cat or a dog, which would I be?
GBFanForLife posted:
Perfectly legitimate question following the Davenport incident. Or would that be Davenport accident?
Boris posted:Remember, Comp picks can be traded this year.
Me remembering that you can now trade compensatory picks: pic.twitter.com/9IvOdCEC49
— Ted Thompson's Mind (@ThompsonsMind) February 27, 2017
Five round value board pre-combine workouts.
QB:
- Mitch Trubisky/North Carolina – mid first
- Deshaun Watson/Clemson – late first
- DeShone Kizer/Notre Dame – early second
- Patrick Mahomes/Texas Tech – mid second
- Brad Kaaya/Miami, Fl – early third
- Nathan Peterman/Pittsburgh – mid third
- Davis Webb/California – mid fourth
- Chad Kelly/Mississippi – mid fifth
- Joshua Dobbs/Tennessee – late fifth
RB:
- Dalvin Cook/Florida State – early first
- Leonard Fournette/Louisiana State – early first
- Christian McCaffrey/Stanford – late first
- Alvin Kamara/Tennessee – mid second
- Joe Mixon/Oklahoma – early third
- D’Onta Foreman/Texas – late third
- Marlon Mack/South Florida – late third
- Samaje Perine/Oklahoma – early fourth
- Jeremy McNichols/Boise State – mid fourth
- Wayne Gallman/Clemson – mid fourth
- Kareem Hunt/Toledo – late fourth
- Tarik Cohen/North Carolina A&T – late fifth
- Corey Clement/Wisconsin – late fifth
- Brian Hill/Wyoming – late fifth
WR:
- Mike Williams/Clemson – early first
- Corey Davis/Western Michigan – mid first
- John Ross/Washington – late first
- Dede Westbrook/Oklahoma – mid second
- Curtis Samuel/Ohio State – mid second
- Cooper Kupp/Eastern Washington – late second
- JuJu Smith-Schuster/Southern California - late second
- Isaiah Ford/Virginia Tech – early third
- Zay Jones/East Carolina – mid third
- Amara Darboh/Michigan – mid third
- Malachi Dupre/Louisiana State – mid third
- Chad Hansen/California – mid third
- Josh Reynolds/Texas A&M – early fourth
- Taywan Taylor/Western Kentucky – mid fourth
- Artavis Scott/Clemson – mid fourth
- Noah Brown/Ohio State – mid fourth
- ArDarius Stewart/Alabama – mid fourth
- Travin Dural/Louisiana State – late fourth
- Chris Godwin/Penn State – late fourth
- Carlos Henderson/Louisiana Tech – late fourth
- Mack Hollins/North Carolina – mid fifth
- Jalen Robinette/Air Force – mid fifth
- Travis Rudolph/Florida State – late fifth
- Jehu Chesson/Michigan – late fifth
TE:
- O.J. Howard/Alabama – early first
- David Njoku/Miami, Fl – late first
- Bucky Hodges/Virginia Tech – mid second
- Evan Engram/Mississippi – mid second
- Gerald Everett/South Alabama – late second
- Jake Butt/Michigan – mid third
- Jordan Leggett/Clemson – late third
- Adam Shaheen/Ashland – late third
- Jeremy Sprinkle/Arkansas – early fourth
- Michael Roberts/Toledo – mid fifth
- Jonnu Smith/Florida International – late fifth
OT:
- Ryan Ramczyk/Wisconsin – mid first
- Cam Robinson/Alabama – late first
- Garett Boles/Utah – late first
- Roderick Johnson/Florida State – early third
- Taylor Moton/Western Michigan – early third
- Antonio Garcia/Troy – mid third
- Adam Bisnowaty/Pittsburgh – early fourth
- Will Holden/Vanderbilt – early fourth
- Chad Wheeler/Southern California – mid fourth
- J.J. Dielman/Utah – late fourth
- Julien Davenport/Bucknell – early fifth
- Erik Magnuson/Michigan – mid fifth
- Avery Gennesy/Texas A&M – mid fifth
- Dan Skipper/Arkansas – late fifth
OG:
- Forrest Lamp/Western Kentucky – early second
- Dan Feeney/Indiana – early second
- Dorian Johnson/Pittsburgh – mid second
- Dion Dawkins/Temple – late second
- Nico Siragusa/San Diego State – late third
- Zach Banner/Southern California – late third
- Isaac Asiata/Utah – mid fourth
- David Sharpe/Florida – late fourth
- Danny Isidora/Miami, Fl – early fifth
- Damien Mama/Southern California – early fifth
- Jessamen Dunker/Tennessee State – mid fifth
C:
- Pat Elflein/Ohio State – early third
- Ethan Pocic/Louisiana State – early third
- Tyler Orlosky/West Virginia – late third
- Kyle Fuller/Baylor – mid fifth
DE:
- Myles Garrett/Texas A&M – early first
- Solomon Thomas/Stanford – early first
- Derek Barnett/Tennessee – mid first
- Taco Charlton/Michigan – mid first
- Charles Harris/Missouri – early second
- Carl Lawson/Auburn – early second
- DeMarcus Walker/Florida State – late second
- Tarell Basham/Ohio – mid third
- Jordan Willis/Kansas State – mid third
- Tanoh Kpassagnon/Villanova – late third
- Derek Rivers/Youngstown State – early fourth
- Dawuane Smoot/Illinois – mid fourth
- Daeshon Hall/Texas A&M – mid fourth
- Keionta Davis/Tennessee-Chattanooga – late fourth
- Avery Moss/Youngstown State – mid fifth
- Hunter Dimick/Utah – mid fifth
- Trey Hendrickson/Florida Atlantic – late fifth
- Josh Carraway/Texas Christian – late fifth
DT:
- Jonathan Allen/Alabama – early first
- Malik McDowell/Michigan State – mid first
- Caleb Brantley/Florida – early second
- Chris Wormley/Michigan – early third
- Carlos Watkins/Clemson – early third
- Elijah Qualls/Washington – early third
- Larry Ogunjobi/North Carolina – Charlotte – mid third
- Montravius Adams/Auburn – mid third
- Dalvin Tomlinson/Alabama – mid third
- Jaleel Johnson/Iowa – late third
- Jarron Jones/Notre Dame – early fourth
- Eddie Vanderdoes/UCLA – early fourth
- D.J. Jones/Mississippi – mid fourth
- Isaac Rochell/Notre Dame – late fourth
- Vincent Taylor/Oklahoma State – late fourth
- Ryan Glasgow/Michigan – late fourth
- Nazair Jones/North Carolina – early fifth
- Charles Walker/Oklahoma – early fifth
- Davon Godchaux/Louisiana State – early fifth
- Tanzel Smart/Tulane – early fifth
- Steve Tu’ikolovatu/Southern California – mid fifth
OLB:
- Takkarist McKinley/UCLA – late first
- Tim Williams/Alabama – late first
- Haason Reddick/Temple – late first
- T.J. Watt/Wisconsin – early second
- Ryan Anderson/Alabama – late second
- Alex Anzalone/Florida – mid third
- Tyus Bowser/Houston – late third
- Duke Riley/Louisiana State – early fourth
- Elijah Lee/Kansas State – late fourth
- Noble Nwachukwu/West Virginia – early fifth
- Carroll Phillips/Illinois – early fifth
- Vince Biegel/Wisconsin – early fifth
- Ejuan Price/Pittsburgh – mid fifth
ILB:
- Reuben Foster/Alabama – early first
- Zach Cunningham/Vanderbilt – late first
- Jarrad Davis/Florida – early second
- Raekwon McMillan/Ohio State – late second
- Anthony Walker Jr./Northwestern – late third
- Kendell Beckwith/Louisiana State – late third
- Connor Harris/Lindenwood – early fifth
- Keith Kelsey/Louisville – late fifth
- Blair Brown/Ohio – late fifth
CB:
- Marshon Lattimore/Ohio State – early first
- Teez Tabor/Florida – mid first
- Sidney Jones/Washington – mid first
- Marlon Humphrey/Alabama – mid first
- TreDavious White/Louisiana State – late first
- Desmond King/Iowa – early second
- Gareon Conley/Ohio State – early second
- Quincy Wilson/Florida – mid second
- Adoree’ Jackson/Southern California – mid second
- Cordrea Tankersley/Clemson – mid second
- Jourdan Lewis/Michigan – late second
- Cameron Sutton/Tennessee – late second
- Rasul Douglas/West Virginia – early third
- Chidobe Awuzie/Colorado – early third
- Kevin King/Washingon – mid third
- Howard Wilson/Houston – mid third
- Damontae Kazee/San Diego State – early fourth
- Fabian Moreau/UCLA – early fourth
- Ahkello Witherspoon/Colorado – mid fourth
- William Likely/Maryland – early fifth
- Marquez White/Florida State – early fifth
- Corn Elder/Miami, Fl – late fifth
S:
- Jamal Adams/Louisiana State – early first
- Malik Hooker/Ohio State – early first
- Jabrill Peppers/Michigan – mid first
- Budda Baker/Washington – early second
- Marcus Williams/Utah – late second
- Obi Melifonwu/Connecticut – late second
- Marcus Maye/Florida – early third
- Justin Evans/Texas A&M – early third
- John Johnson/Boston College – late third
- Josh Harvey-Clemons/Louisville – late third
- Eddie Jackson/Alabama – early fourth
- Josh Jones/North Carolina State – late fourth
- Tedric Thompson/Colorado – early fifth
- Lorenzo Jerome/Saint Francis, Pa – mid fifth
Grave Digger posted:
Round 2
Budda Baker/FS/Washington
5’11”/190 lbs.
*Versatile and aggressive FS with flexibility to play Nickel and Dime Back
This kid's hands...like budda!
Thanks Packerjoe. As a fan who really doesn't know squat about player evaluation, I appreciate your takes on the draft. A few questions:
-Is Tim Williams dropping b/c of off-field issues, or because of holes in his game? I swear he was a top 10 pick right after the national championship game. Same with Mixon, do you see him as a legit third, or is that only based on talent (and ignoring off field).
-Is Jake Butt a third rounder b/c of the injury? I remember seeing him late first / early second before the injury, so curious if the drop is solely injury related, or if it has something to do with his game and/or other TEs jumping over him.
-Do you really see Tribusky as worthy of a mid first round pick? I checked NFL starting QBs with 1 year starting in college and it's not pretty: Osweiler and Cam Newton. Cam worked out and Osweiler is terrible, but that's still just 2 starters in the NFL that started 1 year in college. Is Tribusky that special that he can buck the trend?
PackerJoe posted:Five round value board pre-combine workouts.
Your board or consensus board?
What? NO Bart Houston on the QB charts? Badgerist!
CUPackFan posted:Thanks Packerjoe. As a fan who really doesn't know squat about player evaluation, I appreciate your takes on the draft. A few questions:
-Is Tim Williams dropping b/c of off-field issues, or because of holes in his game? I swear he was a top 10 pick right after the national championship game. Same with Mixon, do you see him as a legit third, or is that only based on talent (and ignoring off field).
-Is Jake Butt a third rounder b/c of the injury? I remember seeing him late first / early second before the injury, so curious if the drop is solely injury related, or if it has something to do with his game and/or other TEs jumping over him.
-Do you really see Tribusky as worthy of a mid first round pick? I checked NFL starting QBs with 1 year starting in college and it's not pretty: Osweiler and Cam Newton. Cam worked out and Osweiler is terrible, but that's still just 2 starters in the NFL that started 1 year in college. Is Tribusky that special that he can buck the trend?
Tim Williams. He had an unregistered firearm arrest a few months back and rumors are that he really likes smoking pot and could turn out to be the next Randy Gregory. There are also questions about his size. Most draft websites list him as being 250+ pounds but lots of people don't think he was playing at that weight. Alabama's website lists his weight as 252 pounds on the 2016 roster, but only 237 pounds on the 2015 roster. Thompson seems to avoid players with character issues. My gut feeling is he won't take Williams even if he were to slip all the way down to the Packer's second round pick.
https://www.seccountry.com/ala...ama-olb-tim-williams
Jake Butt. All injury-related. Tore an ACL in the bowl game. If the injury doesn't happen he's the second or third tight end off the board depending on how much Njoku wows during workouts, which he is expected to do. Butt may or may not have been a first round pick, would have all depended on if team's picking at the end of the round are looking for tight ends.
Mitch Trubisky. Every time I've seen quotes from scouts talking about this year's quarterback class from credible NFL Draft reporters it's the same thing. This draft is terrible for quarterbacks and there isn't one worth taking in the first round. I think at least one will go within the top 10 because NFL front offices are just not logical at all when it comes to that position. Trubisky is the one guy that all the draftniks are watching during the combine measurements. Listed at 6-3, reports are that he may be under 6-2.
ammo posted:PackerJoe posted:Five round value board pre-combine workouts.
Your board or consensus board?
Unadjusted consensus board. I might make some adjustments to the consensus board closer to the draft if I can tell there are obvious f**k-up's from the draftniks/writers like with James Bradberry last year.
I thought everyone knew James Bradberry was whack
Jake Butt.
Poor guy has to be the butt of so many jokes.
Jake Butt walks into a bar, bartender says "whatcha drinking?"
Jake Butt says "fedya's not funny"
bartender says, "oh yeah, everyone knows that"
Apparently even butt jokes are too erudite for EKB.
Mitch Trubisky = 6-2 1/8
Deshaun Watson = 6-2 1/2
DeShone Kizer = 6-4 1/4
Patrick Mahomes = 6-2
Do we know hand size, that's the key...bigger hand means bigger penis means more confidence.
ammo posted:Isn't he the guy who wrote Star Trek?
Celsius 232.778 dummy. Sheesh.
These guys can fly...
Grave Digger posted:Do we know hand size, that's the key...bigger hand means bigger penis means more confidence.
Easier dick punching though.
