Abstract The NFL Combine measures a variety of physical abilities. This research questions the overall usefulness of the event by focusing on both current and past players of QB, WR, and RB positions, who have performed at NFL Scouting Combine from 2000 to 2010. Statistical methods using the idea of multilinear regression, random forest and hypothesis testing on correlations between one’s Combine measurements and draft order, and as well as his NFL performance are used to mark and order the importance of the Combine drills in terms of how well they predict one’s career. The study reveals that an outstanding performance at the NFL Combine is not sufficient to guarantee one’s success as a professional player. However, certain traits seem to indicate a positive attitude that is usually necessary to be drafted into the NFL. What the Combine data could imply about one’s potential also depends on his position; wide receivers and running backs are highly regarded for their speed, which means faster players are more likely to be drafted, while quarterbacks perform quite independently from all the Combine measurements. To conclude, the study offers suggestions on how one’s raw athleticism measured at the Combine could be effectively utilized to assess the chance of one’s being drafted by encouraging players in different positions to focus on different drills that could best demonstrate their potential based on statistical findings.

https://nfldraftcombineanalysi...dict-future-success/

Thus, we hoped to be able to predict draft pick number and future success in the NFL based on these metrics. However, we were not able to find any significant relationships between NFL Combine results and either draft position or future career success. Yet there was a significant relationship between future NFL career success and draft position – indicating that NFL teams do indeed draft better players earlier based on factors other than a prospect’s Combine results.

I'd like to see a study that focuses more on "thresholds" for success, kind of like Ivy League schools & the SAT, they at least have to have a minimum of a certain number on certain combine tests to be successful. One thing I've noticed is that almost every all pro TE in the past 30 years has run the 40 in under 4.7 coming out of college. For me that is the threshold. Sternberger ran a 4.66 at his pro day. I get the thing about where they were drafted. Look no further than the HOF .... more First round choices there than all the other rounds + UDFA combined. 

Not a knock on you Chongo. 

This is the thing I can't stand about draftniks and bad GMs.

Jordan Love, QB

School: Utah State | Year: Junior (RS)

Love has ideal size, arm strength and athletic ability. He operates in the gun and he's very fluid and smooth in his setup. He throws from a variety of platforms and arm angles. The ball jumps out of his hand. He is at his best on skinny post drive throws and over the top deep balls. His decision making was very concerning this season. He forces too many balls into crowds and he doesn't ever give up on a play -- to a fault. His supporting cast isn't very good, but he still fell into too many bad habits. He uses his athletic ability to escape and extend plays, but there are occasions when he fails to climb and reset his feet. Overall, Love is a raw prospect who will need some time to develop. There is risk with him, but the payoff could be huge.

But he's still your 20th ranked pick of the draft.  Oh what an athlete but he's a fucking mullethead.  Okay.

Henry posted:

Not a knock on you Chongo. 

This is the thing I can't stand about draftniks and bad GMs.

Jordan Love, QB

School: Utah State | Year: Junior (RS)

Love has ideal size, arm strength and athletic ability. He operates in the gun and he's very fluid and smooth in his setup. He throws from a variety of platforms and arm angles. The ball jumps out of his hand. He is at his best on skinny post drive throws and over the top deep balls. His decision making was very concerning this season. He forces too many balls into crowds and he doesn't ever give up on a play -- to a fault. His supporting cast isn't very good, but he still fell into too many bad habits. He uses his athletic ability to escape and extend plays, but there are occasions when he fails to climb and reset his feet. Overall, Love is a raw prospect who will need some time to develop. There is risk with him, but the payoff could be huge.

But he's still your 20th ranked pick of the draft.  Oh what an athlete but he's a fucking mullethead.  Okay.

Because he's young, seems like a natural passer with a ton of upside and his problems are coachable. 

Boris posted:

Sounds like Favre. Now you need a coach to harness it & control it. Like Holmy. Get it?

Holmy: No more Rocket Balls please?!?

Favrie: No, I've chained up.....

Holmy: No, I know...

History doesn't bode well for the RPO scrambling super athlete QB.  You rank him in the late 2nd or 3rd fine.  Timmy Warner has a ton of potential and looked pretty crappy in college play.  He wasn't ranked 20th overall.  Mid round flyer pick at QB.

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Sometimes you just never know on a kid. People though TT was insane for drafting Duh-vante in the 2nd round. I forget what pundit said but he pointed out "his basketball moves worked at Fresno, but won't transition to the NFL," meaning he gained a lot of yards juking guys and breaking ankles.

It only works sometimes in the NFL. 

Now with a QB, you probably have a lesser margin for error. Really all this punditry is good for is entertainment. I'd be disappointed if the Packers took Love at #30 because quite frankly, we have more pressing needs at WR and ILB. But if Gutey believes he's too good to pass up at #30, who am I to question him?

That said, I am thinking if Love falls to #30, someone is going to get a hard on, and may throw some tasty picks our way to come up from the 2nd round and nab him. This feels like a good draft for that.

I'd have zero problem if they took a guy like that in the 4th.  As I remember, Kizer had "decision making" problems as well and that dumb didn't wash off even after a being a starter. 

I don't know, maybe it's because I'm a racist or too PC or my feelings were hurt or I forgot which identity I was today.  Guys like that are not worth the high pick IMO.  Timmy Boyle, zero draft capital wasted on what could be. 

I'm all for reaping draft picks from some other clown organization though.

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As a teacher from Love's high school who personally watched him play on the sidelines, I can tell you he's a good kid who is extremely coachable and those flaws in his game this year were as much a result of him thinking he needed to put the team on his shoulders and trying to do too much. Look at what he did the year before. I think he's a first round talent, but late in the first round, and it wouldn't shock me for someone to offer us a great deal to take him at 30 (such a great thing when you can lock a QB in for five years because they're a first round pick) and I do believe he will be available then. He also played basketball for us here and was a serious player, he's a solid athlete who really hit the weight room in college once he concentrated on only one sport. I'm just saying, I think knowing him he will be a success at the next level. He has a Drew Brees-Russell Wilson style focus.

I'm not saying Love is going to be a horrible pro either.  I just laugh when draft guys come out with these takes of a top 20 talent just don't mind all the mistakes.  Coachable is a relative term and it doesn't have anything to do with intelligence either.  Some guys just can't adjust to the speed of the game.  If you're making "bad decisions" playing at Utah there's a good chance he'll still be making bad decisions in the NFL.  Too many "I'm a QB guru" hubridiocy projects that go nowhere.

excalibur posted:

Once upon a time, not all that long ago, the NFL would not allow players to compete in an arm-wrestling competition in Las Vegas; or award that city the Pro-Bowl. Now they are all in with a franchise based there. What could possibly go wrong with people who work for the team living in that city year-round? 

Because players living in Oakland are surrounded by positive influences. 

Have you guys seen this ? High School Football Coach (La) shows a letter he received from the Packers (signed by Gute) asking questions about College Draft prospect (LSU RB Clyde Edwards-Helaire) who attended his high school.