Packmeister posted:

Moore didn't pan out. The jury is still out on MVS, and ESB lost a season...not a good-looking draft, so far.

On Packers.com, there's a list of the top 10 plays from the Packers, this past season. There are two plays shown with MVS scoring TDs. One on a catch near the LOS which he ran a long ways for a TD and another where Rodgers threaded the ball to him for another TD. That's 20% of this tape's Top Ten plays. I think MVS is staying put in GB. Rodgers also seemed to like ESB. Let's see how he fares, this off season and in camp, before we give him the boot. He might replace GMO.

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I think MVS will have every chance to make the roster next year.  Not sure if his confidence was shot or if there were health reasons, but he'll get every chance to make plays next pre-season.  He's definitely the speed guy GB needs to stretch the field.  

No idea what to say about ESB.  Sure there were a few nice catches, but a few nice catches are a dime a dozen.  Maybe he is a year 3 dynamo, at least I hope so.  He's really big, seems to run good routes, so no point in slamming the door shut, but I can't see how you can count on him being a difference maker.  

Gmo can go.  Every throw his way made me nervous.  

I thing GB needs to pick a WR in one of the first three picks.  

I'm 100% confident that Gute will attempt to address the WR situation.    That said, it doesn't make sense to walk away from MVS just yet.   He has experience in the offense and is cheap.    Unless we go on a serious FA bender at WR, MVS makes the team as a #5, maybe #4.

Adams
FA or Draft
Lazard
MVS
Open / EQ

We would have to add 3 WR's to eliminate both EQ and MVS.    MVS, having experience, is much more valuable than a UDFA with promise.    We are a super bowl contending team, we need backups who can step in immediately and help win a game. 

When has the shotgun approach to a draft position actually worked for the team? 

In '05, four db's were drafted, one of whom was Nick Collins. The other three: Marviel Underwood, Michael Hawkins, and Kurt Campbell.

Nick was awesome. The other three? Wasted picks. Maybe Underwood was a good special-teams player.

In 1999, Ron Wolf's well-known shotgun draft was ok, at best. Four players were drafted:

1) Antuan Edwards

2) Fred Vinson

3) Mike McKenzie

7) Chris Akins

The 2014 draft is the closest analogy to a successful shotgun draft at WR, netting us Davante Adams, Jared Abbrederis and Jeff Janis.

2006, we landed Greg Jennings, but the other two players? Cory Rodgers, and Will Blackmon.

2000? Horrible. Anthony Lucas, Joey Jamison, and Charles Lee.

The point I'd like to make is this: let's make sure we're doing everything we can to scout and evaluate properly, rather than simply rolling the dice and hoping we hit on a few guys. By overlooking other positions, you could argue it set the team back numerous times.

 

 

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I am totally confident Gute will be extremely aggressive with getting weapons on offense.  I wouldn't be shocked at all if he is just as aggressive with offensive talent this free agency period like he did go all in on the defense last off season.

If he thinks the receivers are deep enough in the draft I wouldn't be surprised if he went defense again in free agency.  

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The Heckler posted:

I am totally confident Gute will be extremely aggressive with getting weapons on offense.  I wouldn't be shocked at all if he is just as aggressive with offensive talent this free agency period like he did go all in on the defense last off season.

If he thinks the receivers are deep enough in the draft I wouldn't be surprised if he went defense again in free agency.  

Whereโ€™s all this cap space gonna come from if heโ€™s gonna be that aggressive?

I took BPA in the first round for sure.  Safety isn't a dire need but GB can find a spot for Delpit.  Delpit, Reagor, Dye, Hodgins, Bryant and Strnad are all explosive athletes.  Bredeson can be an early starter inside.  

  • Grant Delpit, S

     
     
  • Jalen Reagor, WR

     
     
  • Troy Dye, LB

     
     
     
     
  • Ben Bredeson, OG

     
     
  • Isaiah Hodgins, WR

     
     
  • Myles Bryant, CB

     
     
  • Justin Strnad, LB

     
     
  • Raequan Williams, DL

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    Tremayne Anchrum, OT