Official 2020 Draft Thread

Herschel posted:

Just playing with mocks it appears the Packers will need to get at least one starter via Free Agency. Guys at a reasonable price I'd like to see them target:

Joe Schobert - Can cover and blitz from around the linebacker level, plus he's only 26. 

Beau Allen - Rotational guy who's not much of a pass rusher but good against the run, and should be fairly cheap. 

Kyle Van Noy - Similar to Schobert, but maybe even more versatile. 

Danny Trevathan - Higher risk due to injury, but he can play, when healthy.

Jimmy Smith/Kendall Fuller/Ronald Darby - They could really use another corner who can play meaningful snaps in dime or if/when injuries occur. 

Don’t sleep on Sullivan.   Kid can play. 

El-Nuke-the-Hurricanes-Bong posted:

I like this Ashwaubenon kid

James Morgan? Yes.

excalibur posted:

PackerHawk posted:

excalibur posted:

Once upon a time, not all that long ago, the NFL would not allow players to compete in an arm-wrestling competition in Las Vegas; or award that city the Pro-Bowl. Now they are all in with a franchise based there. What could possibly go wrong with people who work for the team living in that city year-round? 

Because players living in Oakland are surrounded by positive influences. 

I didn't specify players, and I doubt many if any players lived in Oakland year-round. And if you don't see the massive potential for trouble with all that gambling business and money in Las Vegas well, what can I say.

You didn't mention players? OK, Boomer. 

So Oakland wasn't a problem because you doubt they lived there year round but Vegas is going to be a problem because different reasons? 

You do realize sports gambling is legal in 16 states now, right? With more to follow soon. All but around 8 or 9 states are moving towards it. 

9 teams including the Raiders are in states that have legal sports gambling. If you are talking gambling in general then just about every team lives near a casino. You worried about Aaron Jones spending too much time at the Packers official casino?

https://www.packers.com/news/p...am-s-official-casino

You can go full Black Sox anywhere.  Just ask Arnold Rothstein.  Or was that Abe Frohman?

The sausage king? 

Uh, yeah.  That guy had clout.

Yahoo had a mock draft today where our first pick was the TE from Notre Dame. Don't know enough about him....

No need to draft a TE that high.  Sternberger can play. 

YATittle posted:

Yahoo had a mock draft today where our first pick was the TE from Notre Dame. Don't know enough about him....

Don't see him good enough to draft in First Round. 

https://www.si.com/college/not...p-tight-end-prospect

K-M-E-T... Twiddle Dee!

Kmet is NOT a first round pick. No. No No. No.FUCK NO!!!! There is no fucking way GB takes a TE like Kmet in round 1 with Sternberger on the roster in a draft hemorrhaging OL and WR talent. Kmet is a 4th rounder. 

I bet we go DL with the first pick, Raekwon Davis.  there it is, will change next week, but today...

Nate Davis USA Today Mock Draft

30. Green Bay Packers – Laviska Shenault Jr., WR, Colorado: Memo to GM Brian Gutekunst ... WR Davante Adams can't do it by himself.

michiganjoe posted:

Nate Davis USA Today Mock Draft

30. Green Bay Packers – Laviska Shenault Jr., WR, Colorado: Memo to GM Brian Gutekunst ... WR Davante Adams can't do it by himself.

From what I've seen and heard about Shenault , Jr. is that he isn't the fastest WR out there, but he catches everything thrown at him. I think he'd be great in GB.

First round pick should be on one of 3 positions...ILB with speed that can step in and start day 1. OT that can be a long term replacement for Bulaga. Or a play making WR/Slot guy who can strike some fear into defenses.

Any of those three will address the most pressing needs.

With Martinez likely done in GB, who's gonna have the green dot on their helmet? Amos? 

Z?

I don't think that would work. He spends too much time at the LOS and usually lined up wide. It's usually a MLB or Safety that can see the whole field and is near the middle so they can communicate with everyone. 

You also want someone that plays nearly all the snaps and the edge rushers are usually 80% snap guys. 

I vote for Amos.

BrainDed posted:

Herschel posted:

Just playing with mocks it appears the Packers will need to get at least one starter via Free Agency. Guys at a reasonable price I'd like to see them target:

Joe Schobert - Can cover and blitz from around the linebacker level, plus he's only 26. 

Beau Allen - Rotational guy who's not much of a pass rusher but good against the run, and should be fairly cheap. 

Kyle Van Noy - Similar to Schobert, but maybe even more versatile. 

Danny Trevathan - Higher risk due to injury, but he can play, when healthy.

Jimmy Smith/Kendall Fuller/Ronald Darby - They could really use another corner who can play meaningful snaps in dime or if/when injuries occur. 

Don’t sleep on Sullivan.   Kid can play. 

Even so, Sullivan is the third corner at a position with zero depth and a player who usually misses time. There also wasn't a safety that moved the needle at all. There's just so little depth on the back end and it showed at times last year. 

I'm changing my pick in the first round. I had picked ILB Kenneth Murray of Oklahoma. Now, I read, in a few articles, that he is not a great run stopper. So, maybe Patrick Queen of LSU? If I went WR, I'd go Laviska Shenault, Jr or Jalen Reagor or Denzel Mims or KJ Hamler of Penn St., who could all be available at the Packers 1st Round pick. Shenault and Mims can catch the ball and Reagor and Hamler are the speedsters  left on the board, at our pick. Both Reagor and Hamler can be used on STs, as well. It would be nice to see a speedy WR opposite Davante. Another WR to look at, in the later rounds, is Jauan Jennings. 

I think Savage will get the green Dot. 

Blake isn't gone yet.  

I actually think there are some really good options for filling GB's needs in this draft. If I had my choice here are the moves I make and the draft that corresponds:

Cap Space: $26.74M

Cut (+21.05M):
Corey Linsley - $8.5M
Jimmy Graham - $8M
Lane Taylor - $4.55M

Adjusted Cap Space: $47.8M

Re-sign (-$22.1M in 2020):
Bulaga - 3 year/$30M/Fully Guaranteed - $10M per year
KC - 4 year extension/$70M/$25M Guaranteed - $17.5M average ($7.69M in year 1)
ERFA - $4.5M

UFA Signing (-$9M in 2020):
LB Joe Schobert - 4 year/$58M/$20M Guaranteed - $5.5M in 2020                             - Elite in all the ways GB needs at ILB
CB Brian Poole - 3 year/$30M/$10M Guaranteed - $3.3M in 2020                               - Really underrated Slot CB, would help tremendously

Draft (-$5M):
Round 1: Tyler Biadasz/C/Wisconsin - Rock in the middle of the OL
Round 2: Brandon Aiyuk/WR/Arizona St. - Gamebreaker
Round 3: Shaq Quarterman/ILB/Miami - Stout run stuffer to pair with JS
Round 4: Lynn Bowden/WR/Kentucky - Gambreaking utility player
Round 5: Jack Driscoll/OT/Auburn - Bulaga-esque player
Round 6: Anthony Gordon/QB/Wazzu - Shockingly underrated developmental guy
Round 7: BPA

Cap Space Remaining: $11.7M

Can someone just email this to Bry?

Oh, and cc Russ too.   

Russ Balls stops reading after "cut Lane Taylor."

LB Joe Schobert - 4 year/$58M/$20M Guaranteed - $5.5M in 2020                             - Elite in all the ways GB needs at ILB

Browns fans disagree....

They should actually watch him, especially against the Ravens and Steelers this year. It’s easy to say he was lucky at times, but at some point when you’re lucky so often I’m pretty sure that’s just being elite. 

Schobert would look great in G&G

Boris posted:

I think Savage will get the green Dot. 

Blake isn't gone yet.  

No, he's not but he's going to have to completely strike out in free agency before he becomes affordable for the Packers. 

Grave Digger. I agree with most of your post. However, I don’t like the idea of cutting Lindsay. According to PFF he only allowed 13 pressures while Billy Turner allowed 33. I never understood why we picked Turner up in the first place. But that’s water under the bridge. My hope is that one of the backups on the interior line outplays him.

Boris posted:

Blake isn't gone yet.  

Shut your dirty mouth! 

PackerPatrick posted:

Grave Digger. I agree with most of your post. However, I don’t like the idea of cutting Lindsay. According to PFF he only allowed 13 pressures while Billy Turner allowed 33. I never understood why we picked Turner up in the first place. But that’s water under the bridge. My hope is that one of the backups on the interior line outplays him.

Because McScrub central.  He was a mid tier signing.  Also, "according to PFF"

Linsley is okay, I think he’s maxed out his ability. He got dominated by Armstead and Buckner twice against SF, he’s always had trouble with long players. I don’t have a problem with him as much as I believe his cap hit is not worth the production. 

Hi, Diggs...I Iike most of your plan.

A couple things:

1) I think Tyler has dropped out of round 1, and I wouldn't take an interior OL there, anyway.

2) Apart from extending KC, you haven't addressed the DL. We need  to beef up the run defense, somehow, maybe through both FA and the draft.

3) Schobert is good, but is he that much better than Martinez? Maybe so...neither one deserves 14-15 mil a year, if you ask me. I would try real hard to land Littleton from the Rams.

Schobert can cover tight ends.  

Probably can gang tackle 5 yards downfield too

Digger,  who is ERFA?  And don't forget Mason Crosby needs to be signed too. 

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I think if recent history has taught us anything about slotting positions is that if you believe a player is a difference maker, regardless of position or round, you take him no questions asked. I doubt the Colts have any regrets about taking Nelson where they did. TB is a first rounder, anyone saying he’s not is overthinking things. 

I’m not convinced the DL is an emergency, might be something they address closer to camp if there’s a veteran who is cut. I’m not convinced 100% of our issues are DL related also. Lanc and Lowry aren’t elite, but we will have year 4 Adams and year 2 Keke. I think both guys could take a step forward and at least work into a viable rotation. 

I think Schobert is a massive upgrade over BM, especially in coverage. I think obviously think he’s worth $14M, I think he blossomed in multiple schemes in CLE under multiple DC’s. I think pairing him with a thumper would be a huge change for us. 

Grave Digger posted:

Linsley is okay, I think he’s maxed out his ability. He got dominated by Armstead and Buckner twice against SF, he’s always had trouble with long players. I don’t have a problem with him as much as I believe his cap hit is not worth the production. 

Agree.    It's a value thing.   We can get more bang for the buck elsehwere.  

I also agree with Packer Patrick the Turner is a problem.  But, we can't do anything about that except hope that Cole Madison can beat him out.