Official 2020 Draft Thread

I was just thinking about the Packers moving around in the draft and I came across this from Peter Kings site, quote: 

“Seattle traded its first-round pick, 21st overall, to Green Bay for the 30th, 114th and 118th picks.
Seattle traded the 30th pick to the Giants for the 37th, 132nd and 142nd picks.
Seattle traded the 37th pick to Carolina for the 47th and 77th picks. At 47, Seattle picked S Marquise Blair.
Seattle traded the 77th and 118th picks to New England for the 64th pick. At 64, Seattle selected WR DK Metcalf.
Seattle traded the 114th pick to Minnesota for the 120th and 204th picks.
Seattle picked WR Gary Jennings Jr. at 120, S Ugo Amadi at 132, LB Ben Burr-Kiven at 142, and RB Travis Homer at 204.

So Seattle turned pick 21 into picks 47, 64, 120, 132, 142 and 204 . . . two second-round picks, two fourth-round picks, one fifth-round pick and one sixth-round pick.”

Thats a lot of trades! We have moved around in the draft a bit in the past but nothing like the SeaChickens.

https://profootballtalk.nbcspo...qbs-fmia-peter-king/

The 30th pick has a lot more value than the 33rd pick because of the 5th year option.

If I'm sitting at the end of round one I would always be looking to trade down. Last season Seattle traded the 30th pick to the Giants for the 37th, 132nd and 142nd picks. Seattle traded the 37th pick to Carolina for the 47th and 77th picks.

So they sat with 47, 77, 132 and 142 for the 30th. That's a 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th rounder for the 30th. You can find good interior OL, ILB, RBs, TEs, WRs. All needs on the current roster. 

Big drafts lead to big improvements more times than not. More picks mean more chances to find gems.

Kid reminds me A LOT of Viska Shenault...same build, height, weight...he just lines up as a RB. This kid is a playmaker...will be available in 5th round I think.

  woo haa!! Chongo  he is a lot bigger 220-225 lbs.  power,  .. a house call waiting to happen. how about him and Reagor on the same day ????

edit: I think he could keep his # 14  too

Chongo posted:

Kid reminds me A LOT of Viska Shenault...same build, height, weight...he just lines up as a RB. This kid is a playmaker...will be available in 5th round I think.

I rather like his teammate, as well. 

And this guy in the 6th or 7th Round:

https://youtu.be/sa_MSEHaKPw

Grab Reagor early, Gibson or Taylor in the 4th and then Jennings, late.  ILB, IOL, OT & DL in either FA or with the other draft picks GB has.

I have a hunch Jennings is going to creep up boards and go earlier than people think. He's going to crush the interviews and someone will love him. Dominant after the catch, insanely competitive and plays hard, always had shitty QB play and coaching. Reminds me of a taller version of Hines Ward. 

Similar players, Gibson has a little more pop which I like.

skully posted:

  woo haa!! Chongo  he is a lot bigger 220-225 lbs.  power,  .. a house call waiting to happen. how about him and Reagor on the same day ????

                                          

edit: I think he could keep his # 14  too

14 retired for Don Hutson.

Chongo posted:

Kid reminds me A LOT of Viska Shenault...same build, height, weight...he just lines up as a RB. This kid is a playmaker...will be available in 5th round I think.

These highlights are amazing.  Any time he catches the ball he is a threat to take it to the house.  What I really like is how he casually flips the ball to the ref after he scores....acts like he's been there before.  I would be surprised if he lasts till 5th round. 

My first question is can he run routes?  I've only seen slants and go routes on the highlights.  If he can't, he's just Cordarelle Patterson.  I don't know anything about the kid but I'd want to know if he can actually play WR when he needs to.  If he lasts until the 5th, who cares but just curious if he's more like Shanault or Patterson.

This kid is projected, for now, to be a 3rd-5th round pick. He has all the tools you'd want but he's from a small school program. Still, has a huge arm and can make all the throws. It would quite interesting if he's sitting there on day 2 if the Packers would scoop him.  

First things first, Eason passes the eyeball test with flying colors. He looks like a franchise quarterback, and he'll undoubtedly draw comparisons to Carson Palmer and Matthew Stafford in the coming months. In related news, he can throw the ball out of the stadium. And while he hasn't played a lot of football in recent years, you wouldn't have known it to watch him against Eastern Washington in the Huskies season opener.

Yes, it's important to remember that Eastern Washington is, well, Eastern Washington. But it's also important to remember that Eason finished 27 of 36 for 349 yards with four touchdowns and no interceptions -- things could've gone much, much worse. And while the Washington coaching staff loves Eason's deep-ball accuracy, he also showed the ability to fit the ball into tight spaces on intermediate routes.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/...uarterback-declares/

Careful. All highlight films are just that: highlights. They don't show the missed assignments, the times they made bad decisions, getting trucked by a DB or arm-tackled, etc. Every highlight film like this shows the only star play from a game or maybe two from a game to get fans excited; they are not what coaches are looking for and not really representative of the player's ability. 

My kid wants to be recruited and coaches say they want several plays from one game against tough competition, then another group against a different tough team, another group, etc. They are looking for consistency against excellent competition, not just the one-and-done single star play -- any player can do that once or twice a game. They want to know that the player consistently produces excellence several times a game against excellent competition. Part of a highlight package that includes several skills may be a hard shot on goal that misses for example, but the coach can see what the kid tried to do. There's a big difference between highlight reels for fans vs highlight reels for coaches. YouTube is full of highlight reels for fans.

Chris Peterson hasn't exactly been a developer of pro QB's...he forces his QB's to play within HIS system. NFL teams are going to maximized Eason's talent and take the shackles off and let him be a QB. 

Eason has all the physical tools you'd want in a QB, and he's shown the patience (albeit only for a season) to work within a "system." Sounds like a perfect fit for MiLFy's system.

packerboi posted:

This kid is projected, for now, to be a 3rd-5th round pick. He has all the tools you'd want but he's from a small school program. Still, has a huge arm and can make all the throws. It would quite interesting if he's sitting there on day 2 if the Packers would scoop him.  

 

Yes, it's important to remember that Eastern Washington is, well, Eastern Washington. But it's also important to remember that Eason finished 27 of 36 for 349 yards with four touchdowns and no interceptions -- things could've gone much, much worse. And while the Washington coaching staff loves Eason's deep-ball accuracy, he also showed the ability to fit the ball into tight spaces on intermediate routes.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/...uarterback-declares/

I see him as a Round 2-3 guy in most places, jockeying with Jake Fromm for position. If Bulaga is not re-signed, would people be comfortable with something like this?

You love Cephus, don't you.

I like him too, but I'd still like the kid to have an opportunity as far away from Wisconsin as possible.  

Herschel posted:

I see him as a Round 2-3 guy in most places, jockeying with Jake Fromm for position. If Bulaga is not re-signed, would people be comfortable with something like this?

IF Bulaga is not resigned the only player in this mock that could play right away is Thomas. I think we could do much better.  

In terms of OT, Josh Jones from Houston sounds like the perfect ZBS OT for us if he's available at 30...Gutey may be able to trade back because it sounds like he won't make it much passed there into the 2nd.

Not a great ILB class this year...4 guys stand above the crowd. Queen from LSU, Murray from Oklahoma, Dye from Oregon and Akeem Davis-Gaither from App State.

Murray scares me...he's strong as hell, but he just looks slow. We don't need slow, we need speed.

Troy Dye from Oregon is the guy I like most of the 4...but I think if he has the kind of combine I am expecting him, he may jump up on a lot of boards to the top ILB prospect, and may not be there at 30.

Davis-Gaither reminds me a lot of Nick Barnett coming out of college...he will not get as much pub due to being at a small school. 6'2 220 he measures out more like a safety, however, that is about what Barnett (and Ray Lewis) measured at coming out of college. 

I haven't heard of Murray described as slow before.

Yeah I think Murray is plenty fast for ILB. Good rusher/blitzer and good side-line to sideline speed. Where I've heard him knocked is for his instincts...bit of a slow reaction time...and getting off blocks?? Scouts have said he's not in the Devin White/Devin Bush range of the 1st round. The few times I saw him he looks pretty damn good - made plays behind the LOS too!! 

https://packerswire.usatoday.c...tball-focus-in-2019/

Any of these could be ripe for replacement and they should be looking to upgrade.

What website are you using Chongo?

The number of Packers fan mocks with Cephus almost guarantees he won't be drafted by Gutenkunst.

Hebert would disappoint me 

@Pakrz

https://thedraftnetwork.com/mock-draft-machine

El-Nuke-the-Hurricanes-Bong posted:

You love Cephus, don't you.

I like him too, but I'd still like the kid to have an opportunity as far away from Wisconsin as possible.  

I do, and if they wait on a wide receiver, he is likely the best guy there, unless maybe KJ Hill is still there. Neither guy is huge or blindingly fast, so I'm guessing they slide a bit.

DH13 posted:

My first question is can he run routes?  I've only seen slants and go routes on the highlights.  If he can't, he's just Cordarelle Patterson.  I don't know anything about the kid but I'd want to know if he can actually play WR when he needs to.  If he lasts until the 5th, who cares but just curious if he's more like Shanault or Patterson.

He's also a body/basket catcher from what I see in those clips.  I'd take a guy like that in the 5th with the potential of pairing with Jones while working on routes and receiving.  It would be a boon if you could take a Patterson and actually make him into an effective WR.

Word leaking out that Green Bay will host the 2022 draft.

 BREAKING: The Green Bay Packers and the Greater Green Bay area will be hosts of the 2022 NFL Draft, per sources.

— Kyle Cousineau (@KCousineau09) February 22, 2020

As we’ve stated publicly in the past, the Packers/Green Bay maintain an interest in hosting the NFL Draft, but we have not been awarded that opportunity in 2022. #Packers #GoPackGo

— Jason Wahlers (@JTWahlers) February 22, 2020

From the Packers.

2022 draft in Green Bay.  Inside info.

DocBenni posted:

2022 draft in Green Bay.  Inside info.

That would be awesome...I hope it's true.

Seems denied above, Doc.

El-Nuke-the-Hurricanes-Bong posted:

Hebert would disappoint me 

Agreed. I was underwhelmed by how he looked against Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl. Trubisky-ish. 

Pakrz posted:

That's a nice draft, Pakrz...I like the combo of Queen and Jennings. Not sure Aiyuk lasts 'til 62, but there will be a quality wideout there, if that's where team decides to go in the 2nd...lots of precedent, there...😉

I think an OL in the 4th over a WR, but your picks look quite good.

As far as late-round TE goes, I would prefer Matt Bushman over Parkinson, but Bushman is more likely gone by the 6th round.

Good draft.

Ok...I took a Stab at a way-early mock, just for fun...here's what I got. I missed out on a 2nd-tier TE, but quite happy Shenault landed at 30, and also Queen at 62. After that, it gets much harder to project, so I started taking BPA's, with an emphasis on positions. I personally think the team will be trading around the board, and quite possible we trade out of the 1st round to add a few quality mid-round picks. So...here you go.

Nice work... but Queen has zero shot at being there in R2. 

I know...that's just the way it all went...lol