Pakrz posted:206 lbs running a sub 4.3? No way that guy makes it to 30.
Al Davis' ghost is already planning to draft him.
ammo posted:I knew 2 guys named Sid Bahls and Harry Bahls.
Brothers?
ChilliJon posted:He won’t. But he pushes talent to GB. And that ain’t all bad.
I'd like to see us move up for him.
Ain’t gonna happen. He’s going to run a sub 4.3 40 tomorrow at 210 and then catch everything thrown at him in drills and by mid March he’ll be top 15. He’s not top 15. He’s not top 32. Actually.
but he is exactly what every NFL team wants on the field in 2020. Fast, quick, elusive, hands, and fast. Blazing ass fast.
Goalline posted:ammo posted:I knew 2 guys named Sid Bahls and Harry Bahls.
Brothers?
I think so. They were older than me when in school.
BrainDed posted:ChilliJon posted:He won’t. But he pushes talent to GB. And that ain’t all bad.
I'd like to see us move up for him.
Me, too, but we don't have the ammo.
ammo posted:I'm right here.
Lol...I knew you would chime in on that one...😊
Blair Kiel posted:Reminds me of that old Johnny Cash song "I've Been Everywhere".....I think he actually mentions Fond du Lac in it...
Ghost of Lambeau posted:It appears that Wisconsin wide receiver Quintez Cephus wants to play for the Packers. But do the Packers want him? Here is the link. Scroll down to number 10.
Item #4 talks about the ILB's on the Packer's roster. I'd forgotten about Curtis Bolton and how good he looked in preseason before tearing up his ACL.
Timmy! posted:ChilliJon posted:Saw Dick Pound trending today. Craziest name ever.
Dick Trickle (RIP) Hold my St Pauli. Girl.
Craziest ever?
Many years ago, I worked for a retailer where we did our own 'direct marketing'.
We came across a name on the mailing list that bordered on the unbelievable.
His first name was Harry, his last name was spelled remarkably close to a slang word for a certain part of a woman's anatomy....I was thinking it had to be a made-up name until I met the man in person.
And he informed me that he had to go through the Army with that name!
I knew a guy who's name was Harry Johnson. He won tickets to a concert or something on the radio and they didn't believe it was his real name so he had to go to the radio station to collect the tickets. He even got on the air during the morning show and he got to read off funny names on the air.
As for Cephus as a Badgers fan it is tough to evaluate him. It seems like he has all the talent in the world but IMHO it is so hard to evaluate a WR in the Badgers offense. That being said I wouldn't be disappointed if the Packers took a later round flyer on him.
antooo posted:Ghost of Lambeau posted:It appears that Wisconsin wide receiver Quintez Cephus wants to play for the Packers. But do the Packers want him? Here is the link. Scroll down to number 10.
Item #4 talks about the ILB's on the Packer's roster. I'd forgotten about Curtis Bolton and how good he looked in preseason before tearing up his ACL.
But remember, Bolton was not very fast either and that's what we need.
Cephus reminds me a lot of Davante Adams. Maybe not the biggest or fastest guy but has outstanding body control and usually comes down with the ball (contested or not). Pretty good blocker in run support as well.
We could do a lot worse than him.
Tschmack posted:Cephus reminds me a lot of Davante Adams. Maybe not the biggest or fastest guy but has outstanding body control and usually comes down with the ball (contested or not). Pretty good blocker in run support as well.
We could do a lot worse than him.
I love the Badgers. Though, when it comes to receiving skills, I cannot see how Cephus would be better than what we now have for WRs in GB. He would be a late round add if the Packers wanted him and he would not get picked for his speed. Sure handedness might be why he gets drafted. Another late round WR to look at, in the Cephus mold, is Jauan Jennings from Tennessee. Again, Jennings is not fast but he can catch the ball and shed tacklers while moving the chains. For me, the two fastest WRs are Jalen Reagor and KJ Hamler. Either of those two guys are what we fans are asking for in a WR--speed and ability to separate. After watching a bit of the WR workouts in the Combine, I think we can add Chase Claypool to the speedy receivers' list. Another speedy option for GB to scout.
The Heckler posted:Timmy! posted:ChilliJon posted:Saw Dick Pound trending today. Craziest name ever.
Dick Trickle (RIP) Hold my St Pauli. Girl.
Craziest ever?
Many years ago, I worked for a retailer where we did our own 'direct marketing'.
We came across a name on the mailing list that bordered on the unbelievable.
His first name was Harry, his last name was spelled remarkably close to a slang word for a certain part of a woman's anatomy....I was thinking it had to be a made-up name until I met the man in person.
And he informed me that he had to go through the Army with that name!I knew a guy who's name was Harry Johnson. He won tickets to a concert or something on the radio and they didn't believe it was his real name so he had to go to the radio station to collect the tickets. He even got on the air during the morning show and he got to read off funny names on the air.
Richard Dribble...his friends call him Dick.
Cephus reminds me more of James Jones than Adams. If he's there in the later rounds I think it'd be a pretty good value pick.
ILB Kenneth Murray tells me he has met formally with the #packers - they were actually his very first formal interview of the week.
— Jake Morley (@JacobMorley) February 27, 2020
michiganjoe posted:Cephus reminds me more of James Jones than Adams. If he's there in the later rounds I think it'd be a pretty good value pick.
ILB Kenneth Murray tells me he has met formally with the #packers - they were actually his very first formal interview of the week.
— Jake Morley (@JacobMorley) February 27, 2020
That's my bet. Packers go ILB at Round 1.
Rounds 2,3 (WR, OT)
By the way, it is astonishing how much the Packers seem to keep on needing to draft defense with the top picks they have.
Defense wins championships. We witnessed that against San Fran.
They also focused on defense because the two most important positions on offense that you almost always have to use a 1st round pick to get the top guys are QB and LT, and they've been covered there continuously for 20+ years. If you aren't covered there, teams almost always reach to try to find someone.
In the last 28 years, the Packers have basically used two round picks on a QB (they traded the 1992 first rounder for Favre). They only used one 2nd round pick on a QB (Brohm) in the last 28 years as well. Green Bay hasn't drafted a QB above the 5th round since 2008 (Brohm) and he's the only guy other than Rodgers they've drafted in the first 4 rounds other than Rodgers this century.
The Bears have used 3 high first round picks on a QB in the last 20 years and gave up 2 first rounders (and a third) for Cutler. A quarter of the their first round picks were invested at QB since 1999. The Vikings picked 3 QBs in the first round in that time frame and traded a first rounder for Bradford.
With the exception of 2012, the Packers starting LT has been either Chad Clifton or Bakh. Getting those guys with 2nd and 4th round picks is amazing.
The glass half empty way of looking at this is that the Packers have had the most important offensive positions covered for 28 years (QB) and 21 years (LT) and been able to invest more at other positions and didn't take advantage.
Cephus and KJ Hill both ran mediocre 40s, so they may well be there in the 4th
Denzel Mims, Dezmon Patmon and Quez Watkins seem to be making some money in this late group as they are very smooth and have done some things to rise a little among similar guys.
May I say I friggin' hate these bastards constantly reminding me that Deebo is not a Packer.
michiganjoe posted:Cephus at 4.73.
AR ran a 4.71 at his combine (still think he's a good value pick in the later rounds).
All the WR's I saw run last night were slow. I thought it may have just been a slow night until Ruggs torched it. Granted the times they showed were "NFL Network times" but few ran sub 4.5 in their first go.
A 4.73 will drop his draft stock considerably. Allison ran a 4.68 and became an UDFA. I think Cephus probably drops to a 6th or 7th round pick at best.
OSU CB Jeff Okudah says Wisconsin's Quintez Cephus was the best WR he faced in college.#NFLCombine
— Chase Goodbread (@ChaseGoodbread) February 28, 2020
He had 7 catches for 122 in the championship game.
Duh-vante ran a 4.56 at the combine and experts said he'd never be a #1 WR in the league with "possession receiver speed."
Conversely MVS ran a 4.37 for all the good that does him.
If they believe Cephus can be a legit #2 WR then go get him. IDGAF how slow his 40 was.
If he can get off the line without getting blown off the correct, properly run routes I agree.
Still 4.73 is pretty damn slow for WR.
Henry posted:If he can get off the line without getting blown off the correct, properly run routes I agree.
Still 4.73 is pretty damn slow for WR.
If nothing else, it means that almost every NFL safety and even some NFL LBs can cover him.
Speed is great, but you still have to know how to play WR. Jeff Janis is the living embodiment of that. There's a lot more to playing WR, including getting in with a QB that can throw you open, that negates the need for high end speed. All things being equal, 4.3 is better than 4.7, but there are so many factors that play into being successful that speed isn't going to be the killer. May be a killer for draft stock, I'm convinced Allen Lazard probably would have been a day 2 pick had he not run in the 4.9's, but it's not a career killer.
Watched Reagor run a dirty 4.44 40 and got depressed. That is not his speed even at 206.
Then saw a clip of Gute saying the combine is a small part of decisions. Said he always goes back to film. Film is everything.
My GM! And if Reagor drops to RD2 and Kenneth Murray is rd1? Giddy up!!!!
Grave Digger posted:Speed is great, but you still have to know how to play WR. Jeff Janis is the living embodiment of that. There's a lot more to playing WR, including getting in with a QB that can throw you open, that negates the need for high end speed. All things being equal, 4.3 is better than 4.7, but there are so many factors that play into being successful that speed isn't going to be the killer. May be a killer for draft stock, I'm convinced Allen Lazard probably would have been a day 2 pick had he not run in the 4.9's, but it's not a career killer.
Lazard ran a 4.56, and he is 6'5", 230 pounds.
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/...14-cfb7-872b20b0ce13
Cephus is 6'1", 200 pounds and ran a 4.73. His current draft profile includes a lot of things as weaknesses that can make up for lack of straight line speed.
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/...41-b441-60bc9cb55ad1
Weaknesses
Semi-strider with limited vertical push off the snap
May need alignment help for desired release against press
Monotone route speed fails to manipulate defenders
Marginal footwork for complex routes
Rolls to a stop on comebacks due to hip tightness
Lack of sink creates imbalance when attempting to snap off breaks
Below-average separation burst from turns
Needs better angles for improved consistency as run blocker
Murray at #30 and Reagor at #62 would be shocking....and amazing.
Chase Claypoole from ND ran the 40 in 4.45 today, at 6'4" and 238 pounds. Guy is incredibly strong with great hands and catch radius. Wonder if he can convert to tight end at that size.