Vince Lombardi Shit= trading Brandon to Jacksonville just to get him the f@ck out of his sight. He could trade “fans” away back then- little known fact.
@H5 posted:Correction. $6.8mm roster bonus due at 3p today - beginning of the 3rd day of league year. Yet, GBP has options. Pay the $6.8mm, but they could still convert the remaining 2021 salary to bonus at a later date if needed. They could also ask AR to shift the roster bonus payout date to give them more time if needed.
Or, they could stand pat and we get to watch various Packers fan lose their mind.
Tons of free agents still left, tons of cap space to gain with Rodgers restructure and possibly even an Adams extension. Teams with limited space want to see how the draft plays out. GB was never going to sign the big name free agents, it was honestly shocking they kept Jones. I would imagine they’re going to see what they get with DL and CBs in the draft and whatever they don’t get they will sign a FA to fill that void. Lots of time, lots of levers for GB to pull, lots of FAs left,
At least we'll get to see him pass the ball now.
Goff is pretty fragile it seems, so it would seem like Boyle is an option and I'm surprised the Bears didn't sign him.
The #Giants and Kenny Golladay have a 4 year, $72M deal with a max of $76M with $40m guaranteed
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 20, 2021
@michiganjoe posted:The #Giants and Kenny Golladay have a 4 year, $72M deal with a max of $76M with $40m guaranteed
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 20, 2021
Crazy money. Signings like this one make me appreciate holding off in the 1st week of FA.
Don't let those big numbers fool you...they are on the hook for $10M a year. If he plays all 4 years (would be surprising) they will likely re-work the deal or cut him.
That didn’t take long.
@TomPelissero: The #Broncos have agreed to terms with two-time Pro Bowl CB Kyle Fuller on a one-year, $9.5 million deal, including $9M fully guaranteed, per source. They swooped in quickly after the #Bears released Fuller, who now reunites with Vic Fangio in Denver.
@Chongo posted:Don't let those big numbers fool you...they are on the hook for $10M a year. If he plays all 4 years (would be surprising) they will likely re-work the deal or cut him.
I get that. Just wondering how his stock jumped so far after playing a whopping 5 games. Is he a legit #1 all of a sudden?
Funny thing is CHI had Golladay in, partly for the pomp and circumstance to show they were "making efforts". One of the radio guys suggested it was to pursuade Robinson to re-sign. Not that they might replace him but make his life easier vs coverages by bringing him on.
Is it possible that waiting on re-doing/restructuring AR's contract is because there is still uncertainty about the cap in 2022? Now that the new TV deals are signed, it's assumed there will be a big jump in the cap in 2023. However, if stadiums are not back to full capacity in 2021, could we see another decline in 2022?
If you push AR's money into next year and the cap stays flat or even declines, the Packers could be in a real world of hurt. Again, I haven't run the numbers so I could be totally wrong.
In terms of GB Brandon, I think it's time to lay off a bit. From what I've read, it doesn't seem like he's personally attacking anyone. He's said nothing racist/sexist and he's not talking politics. Isn't it possible that the problem that most have with him is that he might be right? The thought of our team without a HOF QB is tough to fathom given how long we've had one. Now, I have a hard time believing that the FO would purposely jeopardize the future by blindly supporting Love over Rogers, but other teams have screwed up that bad. On the other hand, it's not like AR is 33 y/o. Yes, he's stated that he wants to play into his 40's but the percentages are against him. I want another or several more SB wins while AR is still our QB, but I also want to be able to win when he's gone.
As Tarik once said, " The universe tends to unfold as it should."
@ilcuqui posted:That didn’t take long.
@TomPelissero: The #Broncos have agreed to terms with two-time Pro Bowl CB Kyle Fuller on a one-year, $9.5 million deal, including $9M fully guaranteed, per source. They swooped in quickly after the #Bears released Fuller, who now reunites with Vic Fangio in Denver.
Good move by the Donks, Fuller is a guy I wouldn't have been surprised to see Gutekunst push for.
I’m on page 14 of this thread right now.. Had to be in that hell hole called WI all last week and missed all this craziness.
I don’t agree with everything Brandon is saying, but I’m not celebrating the Jones signing. Paying RB’s big is risky business. He’s got less miles on him, thanks MM, then most who get their big 2nd deal but it’s still a gamble.
Then we have the strange pattern from Gute of having high round picks as backups. You have two of the best players at their positions in the NFL and you use a 1 and a 2 to draft those positions? What is you doing Gutey? Do you have a long term plan?
People that think the signing of Aaron Jones was bad, have zero clue about the inner workings of the Packer locker-room. It's not fantasy football....
@DocBenni posted:Isn't it possible that the problem that most have with him is that he might be right?
Nope, not for me. What GBB has been saying is fantasy GM shtick. I have no problem with any poster here sharing their opinion on what should be done, the problem starts when the "I've heard from sources" comments start, and then the beating of that drum doesn't subside.
The fact the Packers did not use money from Rodgers contract to push forward and use this year is wierd. Rodgers said on Pats show that he always talks with the front office after the season to gauge where they both are. Maybe the Love pic last year made Rodgers request a show of a long term commitment from the FO. An extension would have done that. Rodgers play this year should show the FO his play is years away from declining. Also Rogers watched the way Favre played his way out of town and does not want to go down that road. I was ready for Rodgers to take over for Favre not because of anything Rodgers had shown previously but because of how Brett nuked the Packers that offseason. The FO does not owe the fans any explanation but the current signs point to a separation in the next one or two years. That separation will hurt the fans a lot more than the Favre divorce because of the way Rodgers has handled his business.
Sources or no sources it’s clear as day what’s happening. The Packers want to stay in the drivers seat with the Rodgers situation and I believe are going to shove Jordan Love down everyone’s throat. The Aaron Jones contract was the final tipping point along with no Rodgers extension before free agency:. That’s the decision that’s already “Been Made” and they are not gonna waver pretty much no matter what. I expect another draft that leaves a lot of fans scratching their heads with picks made with a vision of at least two years down the road.
Gute is trying to pull a Ted Thompson and the real problem is he isn’t anywhere close. Thompson was a genius(before illness took hold) in his ability to see film in a light very few could and see things others couldn’t. Gute is more RAS chart driven(which is fine) but is nowhere near the talent evaluator Thompson was in his prime. This whole thing is headed towards a giant meltdown!
As far as Rodgers I’m sure he has seen enough and I wouldn’t be surprised one bit if we saw a trade with some post June 1st destination at this point on draft day or after. At the very least 2021 will be his last season in Green Bat as a Packer. If you can’t see that with the salary cap and moves the Packers have been or not been making then I can’t help you.
You can’t help anyone. You have been writing the same novel with all the same information across this site for pages and pages of threads. Your massive whiny fake monologues seem more applicable to an Al Bethke blog or even just a fake Facebook account. This site is not your personal blog. Maybe condense your posts into bullet points and maybe do them less often. Less is more. At some point you will be considered spam.
@DocBenni posted:Isn't it possible that the problem that most have with him is that he might be right?
The MANNER in which a MESSAGE is delivered can turn off folks -- even folks who agree with the content of the message being delivered.
I also think that it is fair to say that more than a few Packer fans are uncomfortable with the MESSAGES being sent by (1) using 2020 1st and 4th round picks on a QB for the future and (2) no, as of yet, restructuring of Rodgers contract to free up cap space to allow the team to have more financial freedom to compete in 2021 - despite Rodgers making considerable noise about being amenable to such a re-structuring.
It is no revelation to say that some Packer fans (at least secretly) fear that 2020 was the team's last, best chance to get to another Super Bowl with Aaron Rodgers at QB.
In other words, I have no doubt that you are correct that some folks are upset by the message being imparted and not just by the way it is being imparted.
@Grave Digger posted:You can’t help anyone. You have been writing the same novel with all the same information across this site for pages and pages of threads. Your massive whiny fake monologues seem more applicable to an Al Bethke blog or even just a fake Facebook account. This site is not your personal blog. Maybe condense your posts into bullet points and maybe do them less often. Less is more. At some point you will be considered spam.
Its kinda big news. Like the biggest news of the offseason?
@DocBenni posted:Is it possible that waiting on re-doing/restructuring AR's contract is because there is still uncertainty about the cap in 2022? Now that the new TV deals are signed, it's assumed there will be a big jump in the cap in 2023. However, if stadiums are not back to full capacity in 2021, could we see another decline in 2022?
If you push AR's money into next year and the cap stays flat or even declines, the Packers could be in a real world of hurt. Again, I haven't run the numbers so I could be totally wrong.
In terms of GB Brandon, I think it's time to lay off a bit. From what I've read, it doesn't seem like he's personally attacking anyone. He's said nothing racist/sexist and he's not talking politics. Isn't it possible that the problem that most have with him is that he might be right? The thought of our team without a HOF QB is tough to fathom given how long we've had one. Now, I have a hard time believing that the FO would purposely jeopardize the future by blindly supporting Love over Rogers, but other teams have screwed up that bad. On the other hand, it's not like AR is 33 y/o. Yes, he's stated that he wants to play into his 40's but the percentages are against him. I want another or several more SB wins while AR is still our QB, but I also want to be able to win when he's gone.
As Tarik once said, " The universe tends to unfold as it should."
They liked everything I had to say until I questioned the Aaron Jones signing and they had a complete meltdown and came at me like a bunch of hornets. I simply stated why I didn’t like the signing. Had nothing to do with Aaron Jones as a person or a football player.
Aaron Jones isn't just any run of the mill RB He's Aaron Fucking Jones. would you have had the Packers sign a DIVA WR instead for more money and touch the ball half as much?
@GB-Brandon posted:They liked everything I had to say ...
Only if you said, "I'm leaving."
@Packiderm posted:Aaron Jones isn't just any run of the mill RB He's Aaron Fucking Jones. would you have had the Packers sign a DIVA WR instead for more money and touch the ball half as much?
I’ve clearly stated in several posts how I feel about this. Not gonna talk in circles about it all over again. It’s all in my posts why I didn’t want the Packers to go this direction. It’s “My Opinion”. You & everyone else can have yours. Well see how all this works out and can re-visit.
@Blair Kiel posted:Only if you said, "I'm leaving."
Well by the way things are going I’d get ready to “Ride The Snake” & get ready to “RELAX” as they say! 😂
Quit worrying about lil ole Me! “The Gute Snake”
@GB-Brandon posted:Sources or no sources it’s clear as day what’s happening. The Packers want to stay in the drivers seat with the Rodgers situation and I believe are going to shove Jordan Love down everyone’s throat. The Aaron Jones contract was the final tipping point along with no Rodgers extension before free agency:. That’s the decision that’s already “Been Made” and they are not gonna waver pretty much no matter what. I expect another draft that leaves a lot of fans scratching their heads with picks made with a vision of at least two years down the road.
Gute is trying to pull a Ted Thompson and the real problem is he isn’t anywhere close. Thompson was a genius(before illness took hold) in his ability to see film in a light very few could and see things others couldn’t. Gute is more RAS chart driven(which is fine) but is nowhere near the talent evaluator Thompson was in his prime. This whole thing is headed towards a giant meltdown!
As far as Rodgers I’m sure he has seen enough and I wouldn’t be surprised one bit if we saw a trade with some post June 1st destination at this point on draft day or after. At the very least 2021 will be his last season in Green Bat as a Packer. If you can’t see that with the salary cap and moves the Packers have been or not been making then I can’t help you.
I quoted this post to throw my opinion in the mix.
The way I 'read' the first paragraph, it sounds as if you are writing everything as if it were fact, when it is certainly not. You may be expressing your opinion, which is encouraged, but be more clear about what is fact and what is opinion.
Other than "I believe", all else is your speculation.
Your comparison of Gute and Ted is a big pile of steamin' horseshit. I may agree that Ted (thus far) was/has been a better talent evaluator, but I'm not about to buy anything else in that paragraph. Again, your opinion or hypothesis, not fact.
Your last paragraph started out reasonable enough, but when you got to "at the very least" it goes straight to hell.
I can't see that, and I'm not asking for any help.
@Timmy! posted:I quoted this post to throw my opinion in the mix.
The way I 'read' the first paragraph, it sounds as if you are writing everything as if it were fact, when it is certainly not. You may be expressing your opinion, which is encouraged, but be more clear about what is fact and what is opinion.
Other than "I believe", all else is your speculation.
Your comparison of Gute and Ted is a big pile of steamin' horseshit. I may agree that Ted (thus far) was/has been a better talent evaluator, but I'm not about to buy anything else in that paragraph. Again, your opinion or hypothesis, not fact.
Your last paragraph started out reasonable enough, but when you got to "at the very least" it goes straight to hell.
I can't see that, and I'm not asking for any help.
Then do your own homework! It’s not my job to do it for you!
People don’t like my posting style? Fine! I don’t like some of the other peoples posting style either. I don’t go out of my way to make it a point every time they post. It’s ridiculous and counter productive.
i trust the people I know. It was also reinforced with other rumors on local radio & other rumblings etc etc of what Rodgers wanted. You add in paying a Rb big $ and not giving Rodgers an extension or even leveraging his contract to be active in FA and it’s pretty obvious. The salary cap next year is another indicator. I’ve even heard another rumor since that that I’m not even gonna share cause I’m not gonna get mocked on here anymore.
I’m preparing for the end of Rodgers in Green Bay. Whether that be this offseason or after the 2021 season that is what I see his remaining window is with the Packers. If Gute got the offer he wanted I wouldn’t be shocked at all if Rodgers got traded. He has made “No Moves” that you can point to that shows he wants him here long term and Rodgers value is higher right now then it’s probably gonna be next year so I wouldn’t rule anything off the table. At the same time Jordan Love’s value goes down every year he sits on that bench on a rookie contract.
Of course there is some “Speculation” in my opinion as with any but everything is moving in the direction of the narrative I’ve painted since day 1!
There’s a button you can click that shortens this topic by half. Less, but better content now.
I guess I could be going on and on and on and on about the Billy Turner Restructure. Geez!
@GB-Brandon posted:Sources or no sources it’s clear as day what’s happening. The Packers want to stay in the drivers seat with the Rodgers situation and I believe are going to shove Jordan Love down everyone’s throat.
You seem to forget or thankfully you were not here during the Favre retire/not retire schtick. Most on here supported the Packers because the team was not the Green Bay Favres. And today they are not the Green Bay Rodgers which you want them to be. Of course the Packers FO wants to stay in control. Rodgers works for the team not the other way around. If he wants that much control he neeeds to buy another NFL team.
As far as Rodgers I’m sure he has seen enough and I wouldn’t be surprised one bit if we saw a trade with some post June 1st destination at this point on draft day or after.
I and most other Packer fans as well as the team FO can assure you that is not going to happen. I think you want it to happen just so you can say, "See, I was right all along."
@GB-Brandon posted:Its kinda big news. Like the biggest news of the offseason?
How would I even gather what the news is from your insane rambling? Condense your thoughts into something more manageable or start your own forum, pretty sure X4sucks domain is available.
@Grave Digger posted:How would I even gather what the news is from your insane rambling? Condense your thoughts into something more manageable or start your own forum, pretty sure X4sucks domain is available.
I think I’ve been very clear with my thoughts and direction. We will be moving on to PHASE 2 shortly.
Buckle Up!!!
@Grave Digger posted:You can’t help anyone. You have been writing the same novel with all the same information across this site for pages and pages of threads. Your massive whiny fake monologues seem more applicable to an Al Bethke blog or even just a fake Facebook account. This site is not your personal blog. Maybe condense your posts into bullet points and maybe do them less often. Less is more. At some point you will be considered spam.
What do you mean "at some point"?