Official 2021 Free Agency/Trades Thread

@Blair Kiel posted:

Which one is the star?

4 5 7 3 1 6 2

Ya lost me.

@Blair Kiel posted:

Ya lost me.

How do you have them ranked?

Oh.

I don't judge.

So the Packers are signing another Smith?

So this is going to be the “Will Will Smith smith Will Smith” defense?

Or perhaps the “Cubic Smith” defense?

The Smithsonian Defense?

J. Smith? Holy cow! Maybe a great move if he gets a fire inside him again.

@Timpranillo posted:

It's really bizarre.

They would take a 9M cap hit if injured, but they are still eating a $6.8M cap hit next year by releasing him, so you cut the guy to save like 2M next year?

Money was not much of an issue with Smith's courtship as the Cowboys are set to pay the bulk of his 2021 salary. Dallas owes Smith -- who signed a five-year, $64 million deal in 2019 -- the remainder of his $7.2 million base salary. While his release was surprising, it does make financial sense as Smith's role along the defense was being reduced and the team ran the risk of his contract for 2022 being guaranteed due to a possible season-ending injury. Smith was set to make $9.2 million in base salary in 2022 with an $11.8 million cap hit. Now, he leaves $6.8 million in dead money against the Cowboys 2022 cap.

A decent job of a copy and paste without citing the source. Sounded a bit rehearsed, but kudos. Sorry, just a pet peeve 🙂

https://www.google.com/amp/s/w...boys-per-report/amp/

“As Rapoport noted, money was not much of an issue with Smith's courtship as the Cowboys are set to pay the bulk of his 2021 salary. Dallas owes Smith -- who signed a five-year, $64 million deal in 2019 -- the remainder of his $7.2 million base salary. While his release was surprising, it does make financial sense as Smith's role along the defense was being reduced and the team ran the risk of his contract for 2022 being guaranteed due to a possible season-ending injury. Smith was set to make $9.2 million in base salary in 2022 with an $11.8 million cap hit. Now, he leaves $6.8 million in dead money against the Cowboys 2022 cap.”

I liked Douglas coming out of college. Biggest knock on him was his lack of speed. Here are his testing numbers compared to average CB numbers. Big / physical and quick in short distances. Maybe use him in press coverage with 2 high safety behind?

Pro Day Scores

@Tavis Smiley posted:

A decent job of a copy and paste without citing the source.

That’s why we have Y.A. here.

The #Packers agreed to terms with LB Jaylon Smith, source said.

— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) October 7, 2021

Appears to be a done deal.

@PackLandVA posted:

I don’t know about that.  They’ve been seeing shit on the field for the better part of the past two decades.

@lovepack posted:

J. Smith? Holy cow! Maybe a great move if he gets a fire inside him again.

Big Dog will have a talk with him and change his life. Seems like that’s already happening this year.

Wondering about the details of the deal.

Years, base, guarantees, dead money in '22?

If it's 3 or more years with little dead money in '22, it could provide us some insight to the FO thinking for '22 and beyond with guys like Rodgers, Adams, and Z.

Per reports it's also a one year deal for Smith.  This shouldn't alter the Packers plans to move on from Adams/Z if they want to.

Assuming if both Rasul Douglas & Jaylon Smith sign for their veteran minimums, the Packers will be at around $5.9M remaining cap space.

Let's see where the deals actually come in at.

— Ken Ingalls - Packers Cap 💰 (@KenIngalls) October 7, 2021

@Blair Kiel posted:

That’s why we have Y.A. here.

What do you mean? He doesn’t come up with that on his own?

Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) Tweeted:

#Packers edge rusher Chauncey Rivers suffered a non-contact knee injury at practice yesterday, source said, and is being evaluated for a potentially significant injury. He’s slated to miss time either way and likely heads to IR to make room for Jaylon Smith today. https://twitter.com/RapSheet/s...102618393153536?s=20

Carolina general manager Scott Fitterer sent a 2023 sixth-round pick to New England for Gilmore, who had been set to be released later in the day. The 31-year-old from nearby Rock Hill, South Carolina, is expected to come off the physically unable to perform list after Week 6.

GUNTED!

Is it just me, or did anybody else not even know Chauncey Rivers was on the team?

@FLPACKER posted:

I liked Douglas coming out of college. Biggest knock on him was his lack of speed. Here are his testing numbers compared to average CB numbers. Big / physical and quick in short distances. Maybe use him in press coverage with 2 high safety behind?

Pro Day Scores

Percentiles by Size and Position

Event	Event Score	% By CB	% By Size
Height	74"	96.2	--
Weight	209 lbs	96.7	--
Hand Size	9.25"	55.7	27.6
Arm Length	32.38"	85.7	58.4
40 Yd	4.59 sec	32	58.2
20 Yd	2.64 sec	51.9	71.8
10 Yd	1.57 sec	66.5	80.6
Bench	16 reps	67.9	54.8
Vertical	33.5"	26.1	42.7
Broad Jump	120"	46.7	55.5
Shuttle	4.26 sec	32	47.8
3 Cone	6.97 sec	47.9	59.6
60yd Shuttle	(N/A) sec	--	--

Over 7 ft tall this guy is going to be a beast! Fuck Ed “Too Tall” Jones. We’ve now got our own giant!

Just you. Demovsky says Rivers has an acl tear.

Rivers was a major piece in building for the future.

So what does that leave us at OLB?   Gary, Preston and Garvin?   Anybody on the practice Squad?

Ty Summers.

@Blair Kiel posted:

Is it just me, or did anybody else not even know Chauncey Rivers was on the team?

Never heard of him…..do you have is card?

@Tavis Smiley posted:

Over 7 ft tall this guy is going to be a beast! Fuck Ed “Too Tall” Jones. We’ve now got our own giant!

ummm, that is 74 inches = 6'2"

You’re lying

Some scouts’ evaluation of ILB Jaylon Smith: Can’t run like he once did and hitch in stride is noticeable from old knee injury. He’s not going to shed or blow up blocks in run game, but can move laterally and chase, which is what #Packers probably are seeking for their ..

— Tom Silverstein (@TomSilverstein) October 7, 2021

3-ILB personnel grouping. He’s a better player than Summers or Burks and they’re hoping he’ll be like De’Vondre Campbell and add experience, hustle, versatility and leadership to defense.

— Tom Silverstein (@TomSilverstein) October 7, 2021

@Pikes Peak posted:

Never heard of him…..do you have is card?

David Rivers…Mickey Rivers….nope.

I really don’t see any downside to this signing. If you don’t sign him, you have Oren and Ty backing up Campbell and the oft-injured Barnes. If he sucks, it can’t be any worse than Oren and Ty backing up Campbell and the oft-injured Barnes. At the very worst, it’s probably a push. But odds are his signing will be an upgrade, if even just a bit.

@Chongo posted:

Carolina general manager Scott Fitterer sent a 2023 sixth-round pick to New England for Gilmore, who had been set to be released later in the day. The 31-year-old from nearby Rock Hill, South Carolina, is expected to come off the physically unable to perform list after Week 6.

GUNTED!

GUNT tried to get him but they didn't have the cap room to pull it off.

@packerboi posted:

Might be no more Summers on the team. Packers have to find 2 spots for Douglas and Smith.

Was thinking Jaire to IR and cut Summers but sounds like his spot is saved for now if they IR Rivers. But they might need to elevate or look for another OLB now.

*cough* Matthews *cough*

The new Smith could be a really timely signing with guys like Fields, Wilson, Murray, Mahomes and Jackson coming up.

The complaint from Cowboys fans was that many of his tackles were Blake Martinez like. They often came after a long gain. Still he has got to be better than the backups that we have now. And Barry likes his LB’s.

Tackle after any kind of gain is an upgrade from Summers.

@BrainDed posted:

So what does that leave us at OLB?   Gary, Preston and Garvin?   Anybody on the practice Squad?

Didn’t Burks cross train in the offseason? Probably will be the 5th guy now that they’ve added ILB depth.

Fred Garvin can handle it