@Chongo posted:From NFL team at Cooper DeJean's pro day:
β Dane Brugler (@dpbrugler) April 8, 2024
4.43/4.45 40-yard dash
38.5" vert
10'4" broad
Outstanding workout.
Just wait until he is completely back to his old self post injury.
This looks good to me!
@RossUglem pic.twitter.com/ZxDE78rrBO
β telemachus (@telemachusMKE) April 8, 2024
@Packiderm posted:
Anyone else enjoy the deliciousness of a 366 pound man named Sweat? Dude never stops sweating.
No
@Boris posted:This looks good to me!
@RossUglem pic.twitter.com/ZxDE78rrBO
β telemachus (@telemachusMKE) April 8, 2024
Find a way to swap Edge Coop for Colson
Heβll be long gone before 25β¦
β Tazim Wajid Wajed (@NFLHitman33) April 8, 2024
But, we still should be the ones to go up and get him!!! https://t.co/6yU4qptN1j
@ammo posted:Kool Aide Kool Aide plays great!! Wish we had him, can't wait!!!!
Someone's been drinkin' the kool aid... 
LOL, I've told you all before to be wary of drafting IA db's. They play strictly zone on their back end; I doubt CDJ has played a down of true one-one defense in his IA career . IA coaches are very good. They know they can't recruit a position like corner with the blue bloods of college football, so they back off to getting 3 and 4 star db's, then play them in a zone concept. They do an excellent job of this. I just don't want to see an IA db one on one with the NFL elite receivers. Wait, we have! Josh Jackson
@Chongo posted:From NFL team at Cooper DeJean's pro day:
β Dane Brugler (@dpbrugler) April 8, 2024
4.43/4.45 40-yard dash
38.5" vert
10'4" broad
Outstanding workout.
Wait, so he did well at the stuff we already knew he was great at? I'm sure glad I was sitting for that revelation!
Personally, I view DeJean as a Safety/slot CB, not a boundary CB. Would love to have him in that role. His versatility as Safety/ slot corner could really help us. Or, is he just another great white hope for a DB from Iowa?
I have always dreamed of the Packers finding another Charles Woodson. the hybrid corner/safety. You may be right, maybe CDJ could fill that role. He's an excellent punt returner and a willing tackler in the run game.
It is not lost on me that God threw a massive solar eclipse at us an hour after a white corner ran 4.43. https://t.co/cd5t6Nl6Mi
β Brett Kollmann (@BrettKollmann) April 8, 2024
@DurangoDoug posted:Personally, I view DeJean as a Safety/slot CB, not a boundary CB. Would love to have him in that role. His versatility as Safety/ slot corner could really help us. Or, is he just another great white hope for a DB from Iowa?
The issue is he doesn't have slot corner skills in man. In the highlights above, it's all zone and bail, which yeah, he's really good at, but they should have kept Barry if that's the kind of guy they're going after.
If you can figure out where a player is slotted by the other 31 teams, you'll know whether you need to trade up or down to get your guy.....regardless of his position on the consensus board
It is, and it isn't.
β Peter Bukowski (@Peter_Bukowski) April 8, 2024
The further teams stray from the consensus board, the higher rate they miss. Doesn't mean DON'T do that, just understand the risk is greater. https://t.co/p1id6h71CZ
And this is why McGinn is so good with his top 100. He speaks to scouts from all 32 teams. He usually has like 95-97 of the top 100 players. Pretty impressive.
Andy Reid was asked the heβd like Kool-aid McKinstry at #32 if he were still on the board. Reid said, βOh yeah.β
My interest in DeJean is more about safety than at corner, whether itβs slot or boundary.
I donβt think anyone is suggesting they line him up opposite Jaire Alexander day one.
I think itβs a fair statement about schemes played (at Iowa) but what I do know is he can tackle and heβs a pretty decent athlete in space that has a lot of versatility - including as a returner. I view him as a guy that needs to find a way to get on the field.
Yes, Josh Jackson was a complete miss but if you compare him and DeJean athletically they really donβt compare.
@Chongo posted:From NFL team at Cooper DeJean's pro day:
β Dane Brugler (@dpbrugler) April 8, 2024
4.43/4.45 40-yard dash
38.5" vert
10'4" broad
Outstanding workout.
Now, he'll be gone before pick #25, for sure.
He gone.
It would be different if it was just Josh Jackson, but Micah Hyde, Desmond King, Riley Moss, Kaevon Merriweather and Amani Hooker are all zone guys, as well.
If the Packers pick Cooper at #25, I will not be happy. Trade down and get him.
Is Edgerrin Cooper the clear and obvious #Packers pick hiding in plain sight? On todayβs show I do a very deep dive on Cooperβs scouting report and why he could be the fit with the #Packers with one of their first two selections. Donβt miss it!https://t.co/vUBhModDwU
β Andy Herman (@AndyHermanNFL) April 8, 2024
Another TE?!? Make a position of strength even stronger πͺπΌπ
Only 15 days out from draft, the more teams we talk to, the more it sounds probable that @seniorbowl alums (in some order) could go 2-3-4 ππ© ππ π₯π€π¨ππ©ππ€π£ after Brock Bowers.
β Jim Nagy (@JimNagy_SB) April 9, 2024
Penn State's Theo Johnson, K-State's Ben Sinnott, & TCU's Jared Wiley all embraced full⦠pic.twitter.com/1KGeG4TVll
Brock Bowers is a jumbo sized Jordy Nelson who happens to play TE mixed together with some Shannon Sharpe.
β TheOGfantasyfootball (@TheOGfantasy) April 8, 2024
A Top 4 TE in Dynasty and he is not 4.
pic.twitter.com/z19HoQxE86
Next ProDays 4/10 & 4/16
Pro Days are in the books, with the exception of a few makeups with guys who were nicked up. The big ones upcoming ...
β Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) April 8, 2024
β’ Iowa, April 8 (today): CB Cooper DeJean.
β’ Georgia, April 10: TE Brock Bowers, OT Amarius Mims.
β’ Illinois, April 16: DT Johnny Newton.
@Herschel posted:The issue is he doesn't have slot corner skills in man. In the highlights above, it's all zone and bail, which yeah, he's really good at, but they should have kept Barry if that's the kind of guy they're going after.
Well, Gutey provided Barry with nothing but corners with man cover skills. Makes sense that he provide Hadley with nothing but zone corners.
Iowa did play quite a bit of man towards the end of last season. Dejean was fine playing that way, but he was also playing B1G Western Conference teams.
Joe Alt π€«
β Boris at Timesfour (@x4_Packers) April 9, 2024
Instead of a 20-something Joe Alt, can we get a 20-something Carol Alt?
No more shotgun if she is a center
https://www.acmepackingcompany...d-for-2024-nfl-draft
28 players listed in the top 30 on rcon14 board
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Attachments
Top-150 consensus OT who check every single box:
β Ross Uglem (@RossUglem) April 9, 2024
Graham Barton, Duke
Dominick Puni, Kansas
Roger Rosengarten, Washington pic.twitter.com/dP8yqcTscQ
Barry would zone it up if his corners were Deion and Darrell Green.
That's some "forest through the trees" on the OT criteria.
Firstly: 6'4" 300# as a minimum, for example, makes some sense. However, max of 6'5.6" and 322# max doesn't, it's just that those guys were within the range, not "They found a guy at the exact mamimum". Shorter than 6'6" and sub 335#, for example, is much more sensible.
For example, Kingsley Suamataia weighed in at 324# and 326# in the postseason, but random 322# is the cutoff?
Secondly: The college football season is 12 games, plus a bowl (or possibly two in the championship series). So wanting a guy who has been a starter for at least two years makes sense, but 28 is weirdly random. That would limit you to two-year starters only from multiple BCS Championship Game teams. "Oh, you didn't play for Georgia or TCU, then transfer to Michigan or Washington? Well, you'd better have part of a third year as a starter, then." 35 would be a three-year starter who may have missed a game due to injury.
IIRC, Blake Fisher won the starting LT job his freshman year (The Jack Coan year, Joe Alt split time as a TE early), but injured his knee in the first game. Fisher was able to come back for the bowl game when RT Josh Lugg got hurt. He started the last two years, so he's started 27 games. "Bummer you didn't come back from the injury one game earlier three years ago, but we can't draft you until at least the fifth round now."
Troy Fautanu came in a hair under 6'4", but has 34 1/2" arms, so he has the length/reach of most 6'4" guys (and better than Barton, for example).
In other words: They want Athletic tackles big enough to handle the job, but aren't slobs or struggle with pad level due to their height.
@Goalline posted:Well, Gutey provided Barry with nothing but corners with man cover skills. Makes sense that he provide Hadley with nothing but zone corners.
Iowa did play quite a bit of man towards the end of last season. Dejean was fine playing that way, but he was also playing B1G Western Conference teams.
When, exactly, did IA play a lot of man? They NEVER play a lot of man.
@Herschel posted:In other words: They want Athletic tackles big enough to handle the job, but aren't slobs or struggle with pad level due to their height.
I don't think it's an intended hard & fast cutoff. Just showing Packer types from previous drafts.
They definitely have a type. Some of the exceptions you showed will be interesting to see if the Pack is put in a position to draft one.
Can we talk about a 10'4" broad? I like a big woman, but dayum!
If it's man you want, then Kool-aid you shall draft.
