@Herschel posted:Part of dick steppin’ is guys lacking the talent to do what’s needed of them.
The pre-snap stuff is totally avoidable though.
@YATittle posted:
My only disagreement is this: He hit some weird RAS abnormalities.
Jahmyr Gibbs: 8.06 (lower because slightly under size threshold)
Garret Wilson: 7.77 (lower because slightly under size threshold)
CeeDee Lamb: 7.44 (crappy bench press tanked his score)
Their scores dropped due to cut-offs they barely missed or, in Lamb's case, an irrelevant test and didn't have elite speed or trait to offset. They also went well before the Packers’ picks.
Of course Savage's score also took a big hit due to his height, even though he had elite speed, etc.
Your thoughts on these five prospects?
Zabel looked very good, great at guard lined up beside Jonah Mondheim.
Riley was feisty, but doesn’t have good deep speed and doesn’t have the smoothest hips. He measured just over 5’10” at the Senior Bowl, well under his 6’ listing at Louisville. He’ll also be 24 before training camp, so those knocks will likely push him down well into day two. He reminds me of a smaller Mike McKenzie. I’d love to see the Packers get Azareye’h Thomas and Riley as a tandem. Thomas is a little bigger and faster than Renardo Green was, though Green was more developed, in part being three years older at draft time.
Stewart and Alexander are typical Gutekunst first-rounders: freakish traits with some questions about college production.
Whomever Gute drafts, IMO, we need a difference maker with our #1 pick.I don't want another developmental project, with our #1 pick. Save the developmental projects for the later rounds. I want a guy who excels at his position and can help us win the NFC-North, again.
And you think that player is available at #23?
We'll see
Getting an immediate "difference maker" outside of the first 10 picks is rare. If we could get three starters, as we did this year, I'd be elated. However, CB and interior offensive line may be the only positions where it could happen. WR could get maybe a 40-50 catch guy, and defensive front could get a rotational guy. That is why I'd love to see a WR and Edge that would be our best at that position group, gotten in Free Agency.
Look for Gutey to double dip as he's done in the past, e.g. signed X then drafted 3 Safeties, signed Jacobs then drafted a RB in the 3rd round. Even if he is unable to find a good FA Gutey will likely double down at a position during the draft.
Another guy I wouldn’t mind seeing is Jeffrey Bassa at MLB. With Quay and Cooper outside you could have a blitz threat from either and three LBs with the speed to cover in base.
Someone got an impact from pick 199. There are plenty of studs beyond the top 15.
Yes, there are a lot of good players that have come out of later rounds but .... there are more players who were top 15 draft picks in the Hall of Fame, than those drafted in all the other rounds and undrafted players combined. The best predictor of the future is the past.
If the "location" of a draft changes how a team will make personnel decisions, then the person(s) making personnel decisions need to be fired.
I'm not saying 100% location would be the reason behind a deal trading future draft picks but it would be splashy and sexy in front of the home town fans. Could be a factor if only 10% of the reason why.
Not so much change as a convenient excuse to reinforce.
Since the League started moving the draft to different cities, I think it's natural to assume that the host team wants to be in front of the crowd as often as possible.
But, when the rubber meets the road, Gutey will do the best he can with what he has to work with.
I would imagine he and staff are at least a week ahead of everyone else at this point.
Drafting Mike Green (Marshall) would be an awesome pick in round #1.
they might to give up a 3-5 rounder to move up a couple picks to guarantee they get him
Highly Doubtful, unless Gutekunst changes his criteria. Green had to bulk up to 251# for the Senior Bowl weigh in, but played around 235#. Even in the 3-4 Gutekunst preferred bigger edge guys over 265#, such as Preston, Z’Darius, Gary and Van Ness. Shemar Stewart is a better bet, for example.
He’ll stray with UDFAs or late picks, like Cox, and Enagbare falls just shy, but his prime resources he seems to stick very close to his desired traits.
Right now we have 46 players under contract for next season, which I believe is the most at this time in recent memory. Given that there are going to be some additions / subtractions, it would appear that there isn't going to be room for all 8 draft picks to make the team. This seems like a great year for Gutey to use some picks to either move up in the draft, or acquire some vets via trading picks.
@GBPnut posted:Drafting Mike Green (Marshall) would be an awesome pick in round #1.
they might to give up a 3-5 rounder to move up a couple picks to guarantee they get him
In the few mocks I've seen, Green is gone by pick 15, in most of them. Moving up would be a must, if Gute really wants Green.
@FLPACKER posted:Right now we have 46 players under contract for next season, which I believe is the most at this time in recent memory. Given that there are going to be some additions / subtractions, it would appear that there isn't going to be room for all 8 draft picks to make the team. This seems like a great year for Gutey to use some picks to either move up in the draft, or acquire some vets via trading picks.
People have been saying that for a few years, but that’s overvaluing the chum at the bottom of the roster. There’s also the practice squad of churnable guys. His MO is to churn and it would be somewhat surprising to see that change now, especially with the draft in Green Bay to reinforce that practice.
@YooperPackfan posted:I fear he’s another Van Useless
Vern Troyer Van Ness?
Green actually has bend, though.
The draft being in GB has no bearing on their roster building philosophy.
@H5 posted:The draft being in GB has no bearing on their roster building philosophy.
Roster building has no place in show biz
y'all know we have zero - I mean zero idea of how gutey will draft. guy's like a spider-monkey.
I'm hoping for DL help.
NFL Combine snubs:
— Ryan Fowler (@_RyanFowler_) February 13, 2025
• Notre Dame ED RJ Oben
• Memphis LB Chandler Martin
• EWU WR Efton Chism III (Shrine)
• NDSU QB Cam Miller (Shrine)
• Minnesota ED Danny Striggow (Hula & Senior Bowl)
• UNC OL Willie Lampkin (Senior)
• Auburn TE Rivaldo Fairweather (Shrine)
• Pitt LB…
Efton Chism is going to be a really good player. Watched him make a lot of plays vs Fresno State...reminded me a lot of Jordy Nelson in Bulldog Stadium in 2005. Not as big as Jordy, but the same kind of "bucket getter." Just finds the ball. Doesn't have Jayden Reed's speed, but he can do a lot of things Jayden can.
Looks like he may be a good player but doesn't fit our needs with that position group right now, already have a slot in Reed, we need help on the outside.
Will Sheppard and RJ Oben are kind of a surprise, as well.
It’s probably a blessing for Lampkin. He’d look even smaller in shorts compared to the rest of the group.
