speaking of Notre Dame........gonna kick some of The Ohio States ass. âïļ ð âïļ
@MichiganPacker2 posted:Based on that MLF should be coach of the year and Harley should be the top candidate for every job out there.
Who's Harley?
I know who you meant, just messin with a little bit. 
@FLPACKER posted:Here is PFF rankings for our players by position;
Love 20 of 44
1ST ROUND PICK
Reed 49 of 133
2ND ROUND PICK
Watson 59 of 133
2ND ROUND PICK
Myers 36 of 40
2ND ROUND PICK
Jenkins 31 of 75
2ND ROUND PICK
Wyatt 37 of 126
1ST ROUND PICK
Clark 55 of 126
1ST ROUND PICK
Gary 28 of 119
1ST ROUND PICK
Van Ness 103 of 119
1ST ROUND PICK
Cooper 4 of 82
2ND ROUND PICK
Alexander 15 of 118
1ST ROUND PICK
Stokes 73 of 118
1ST ROUND PICK
Bullard 81 of 98
2ND ROUND PICK
All these 1st and 2nd round picks and only 1 was a top 10 player at his position. This doesn't even include Musgrave, who is not exactly setting the world on fire even when healthy.
@Iowacheese posted:Could use the Notre Dame OL
I'd take the Ohio State WRs and trade them for the Packers right now. Of course, Ohio State probably pays theirs more.
@MichiganPacker2 posted:I'd take the Ohio State WRs and trade them for the Packers right now. Of course, Ohio State probably pays theirs more.
Is there any official, accurate data showing what college guys really get thru NIL
That is a list of JAG's if I ever saw one.
@Pikes Peak posted:Is there any official, accurate data showing what college guys really get thru NIL
Most states don't require reports of NIL money to be made publicly available.
@MichiganPacker2 posted:I'd take the Ohio State WRs and trade them for the Packers right now. Of course, Ohio State probably pays theirs more.
Was just thinking that too.
@MichiganPacker2 posted:Based on that MLF should be coach of the year and Harley should be the top candidate for every job out there.
Without looking at where all other teams guys are ranked it is difficult to say how we fare in the aggregate. With talent spread out over 32 teams we may have more talent than it appears.
@lovepack posted:That is a list of JAG's if I ever saw one.
One star (Cooper), one injured guy (Alexander), one above average guy (Gary), and a mediocre QB.
@FLPACKER posted:Without looking at where all other teams guys are ranked it is difficult to say how we fare in the aggregate. With talent spread out over 32 teams we may have more talent than it appears.
Need more
@FLPACKER posted:Without looking at where all other teams guys are ranked it is difficult to say how we fare in the aggregate. With talent spread out over 32 teams we may have more talent than it appears.
No top end talent. That's pretty clear.
@FLPACKER posted:Most states don't require reports of NIL money to be made publicly available.
Ohio State spent at least 20 million this year on their football team.
I wonder how many first round picks are worse in the rankings than Van Ness?
Their ROI looks good.
@Pikes Peak posted:Their ROI looks good.
As long as they don't play Michigan
@MichiganPacker2 posted:I wonder how many first round picks are worse in the rankings than Van Ness?
Maybe all of them.
So I looked up the Lions PFF scores. They had 6 offensive players in the top 10 of their positions.
Gibbs, St. Brown, LaPorta, and three offensive lineman,
On defense they only had one (Joseph) in the top ten, with the next defensive player being 17th (Branch), but as one would suspect with all their injuries, they had 5 defensive starters that were near the bottom in their positions.
I mean, it doesn't matter because they are getting stomped, but if you are going to go for it, keep your offense out there and run Leonard up the middle.
@MichiganPacker2 posted:Ohio State spent at least 20 million this year on their football team.
I wonder how fast Jim Thorpe is spinning in his grave?
You know if OSU is spending that kind of money, other major programs are spending a like amount.
How long will it be until there is a NIL cap?
When you played as few of games as Alexander did his ranking should be INC of 118.
@Timmy! posted:I wonder how fast Jim Thorpe is spinning in his grave?
You know if OSU is spending that kind of money, other major programs are spending a like amount.
How long will it be until there is a NIL cap?
This is one of my favorite. Quinn Ewers started out at Ohio State and got 1.4 million.
https://www.espn.com/college-f...-million-source-says
He then transferred to Texas and had a NIL deal from a private jet company this year.
Notre Dame has a chance.
I recall this all started out with the premise that guys didnât have enough to take out their gal. I was for a stipend, not a good portion of generational wealth.
@MichiganPacker2 posted:Notre Dame has a chance.
They will need to cash in all their Lucky Charms
Try a FG down 16 with 9 minutes left from the nine against a team that hasn't punted all night?
He missed it anyway, but what's the possible thinking there?
The miss looms large
If Ohio State somehow loses this, Ryan Day may still get fired.
Ryan Day is an idiot. They just snapped the ball with the clock running with 15 seconds on the play clock.
Notre Dame scored at ~5 minutes of the first quarter, then their offense disappeared, not scoring for 2 quarters, not until ~3 minutes of the 3rd period. That is where the game was lost.
@MichiganPacker2 posted:Ryan Day is an idiot. They just snapped the ball with the clock running with 15 seconds on the play clock.
Yeah I didn't get that either....I had to double check and see if MLF was assisting him on the sidelines.
O$U won so even if they lose to Michigan again next year, Ryan Day is most likely safe
@Harry Manback posted:My humble opinions.
Trade Alexander
The good thing is he's still relatively young and some team will give up a lot for him, hoping he's over his injuries. We've been hoping that for two years. Yes, he's elite, but he's a half-time player. You can't assume he's going to be over his injuries, you have to assume he's not. Too much money to pay for someone who's rarely available.
If you can get a 1, maybe.
Try to keep Josh Meyers
He's an UFA, and he's been serviceable to good, Love trusts him, but he's kind of a c+ player. If he doesn't accept a reasonable deal, let him go.
No way. Heâs below average player. We need to clear a space on the starting line for Morgan. Move Tom or Jenkins to center and then move Morgan into guard or RT
Try to Keep Isaiah McDuffie
Good veteran depth. Make a reasonable offer, if he doesn't accept, bye bye.
agree
Pay Eric Stokes
He's our best reliable corner right now, and a vet. He's not going to command much, so he can be had for a reasonable rate. He showed a ton of promise his rookie year, maybe he can progress next year.
He sucks. Pray someone pays him and we get a comp pick.
Pay Eric Wilson
Very competent veteran depth. Not a superstar, so he shouldn't cost much.
agree
Try to Keep TJ Slaton
Good veteran depth, shows up in spurts. If he wants more than a reasonable offer, let him go. He's not going to get any better at this point.
There will be 20 Slaytons available in FA and draft
Pay Brandon McManus
No brainer.
Agree
Try to Keep Quay Walker
Almost every linebacker on the Packers is better than him, but he's a decent vet. Fast as hell, but too dumb to make much of an impact.
Hell no. Again, hope someone over pays and get a comp pick
Try to Keep Corey Ballentine
Decent veteran depth. If he doesn't take a reasonable offer, let him go.
He was our best CB this year. 3 year deal
Let Andre Dillard Go
Andre who?
Try to Keep Robert Rochelle
Good ST player, depth at corner. If he doesn't take a fair deal, let him go.
Let AJ Dillon Go
Good guy, just not the power back we thought he would be, and the RB room is too crowded with better runners.
Let Tyler Davis Go
Never did much.
Whether through draft or free agency, WR and CB are the top two priorities. Then pass rusher. If I were Gutey, I'd look to free agency for all three of those positions first. Especially for CB and DE. Gutey sucks at drafting defense.
Fill in depth through the draft.
Great post. This is the content I love. That said, I disagree with 70%. See comments above.
@MichiganPacker2 posted:This is one of my favorite. Quinn Ewers started out at Ohio State and got 1.4 million.
https://www.espn.com/college-f...-million-source-says
He then transferred to Texas and had a NIL deal from a private jet company this year.
Ewers also received a $100,000 truck from a Columbus car dealer and he got to keep it even though he just up and left and never fulfilled his NIL deal.
The photoshopped hat is awesome.
@The Heckler posted:Ewers also received a $100,000 truck from a Columbus car dealer and he got to keep it even though he just up and left and never fulfilled his NIL deal.
14 years ago my daughter was a D1 track and field athlete. For Thanksgiving her freshman year, her coach dropped her off at the airport so she could fly home. It took the coach about 5 minutes extra to do it, since he was driving in that direction anyway and just had to do a loop into and out of the small regional airport she was near.
When she returned to campus, the university informed her they had determined that the ride to the airport was an impermissible benefit and she had to petition the conference to reinstate her eligibility. She was cleared if she paid a 25 dollar fine (which is about what a cab ride to the airport would have been).
You would think there is a happy middle where common sense would prevail on paying college athletes, but the new system is just to essentially build an AAU team every year in football and basketball without any salary cap.
A good read here but probably behind a paywall
I suspect the NIL rules/landscape will get an overhaul. A deal is a deal. 1 year of play for 1 year of pay.
Watching the Xavier Lucas situation.
There will be lawyers. - Andrew Brandt
@H5 posted:Watching the Xavier Lucas situation.
There will be lawyers. - Andrew Brandt
@H5 posted:I suspect the NIL rules/landscape will get an overhaul. A deal is a deal. 1 year of play for 1 year of pay.
I believe they are proposing a salary cap per school?
@FLPACKER posted:I believe they are proposing a salary cap per school?
I believe that is one thing on the table. I could be way off but I think each school will have a certain amount of money to spend and that's it.
CFB needs a commissioner. Someone who runs the show and will crack down when need be. They do need to somehow get this wild west that is NIL under control.