OTA Updates / June mini-camp

FU Smiley! Jerk. 

 

Headed back to visit WI with the family the 18th through the 28th. Perfect timing. They're not going to be happy when I blow a full day in GB. Whatever. Can't be in WI and not make that trip. 

Franklin and Murphy both suffered their career-ending injuries on kick returns. That's a dangerous job.

You haven't trained the family well, ChilliJon.

Most important Packers (Top 25)

Wonder if Rodgers cracks the Top 3.

I'd put Rodgers at 5.

1. Lacy
2. Tretter/Linsley (Whomever starts at C)
3. Jordy Nelson (or Cobb)
4. Julius Peppers (Pass rush by D-Line in general)
5. You know who

Surely you jest.

 

 

 

 

 

FTFY

"No, and stop calling me Surely!" 

 

Rodgers #1 by eons.

 

Packers win-loss record without Rodgers would be much less than the same without Lacy, for example.

Ted Thompson #1.

The list is called "Most Important Packers", not "Most Important Packer Players".

Top 100 plays

Originally Posted by Fedya: 

not "Most Important Packer Players".

 

 

What is Packer and what kind of people play it?

I think it's somethin' like Sheepshead ya hey.  

  Top 100 players of 2014

 

#11

 

 

 

It's sort of funny, but by Rodgers missing about 1/2 of last season, I thought he proved his value even more than he has in seasons he did play the whole year.  The difference in the Packers with Rodgers compared to without him was astounding.  It was especially apparent when Seneca Wallace and Scott Tolzien were in there.  If Flynn hadn't been available, the team didn't look capable of another victory with those other 2 guys at QB. 

 

I can understand #11 in some ways as Rodgers just didn't provide as much value as some guys who played the full 16 games.  That said, you could make a case for #1 as his absence showed just how important he really is, and just how much better he is at QB than just about anyone else out there.

Gimme a friggin break

It's not top 100 from 2013... but of 2014. And yes, these lists/rankings are summertime filler that mean nothing.

I think the top 100  list is  right on, judging from who has not been  feature their top ten will be right on for Madden  football.  23 days to the opening of Packer training camp.

These lists must really drive clicks. There can't be any other reason they exist. I have no idea why any respectable sports operation would put something out there like this. To say Aaron Rodgers is the 11th best player in the NFL is ****ing moronic. And the NFLN comes off looking moronic. 

 

If we polled 32 GM's and asked them who they're starting a franchise with AR is 1st off the board 98% of the time. And 98% might be conservative. 

Agreed.  I would guess that perhaps the only guy that a GM may take first instead would be Luck, and that's only because he's much younger - not because he's better right now.  

If women were making the choice between Luck and Rodgers?

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To say Aaron Rodgers is the 11th best player in the NFL is ****ing moronic. And the NFLN comes off looking moronic.

Isn't the NFL Network countdown based on polling the players?  If so, blame the players for any rankings you deem moronic.

I imagine Rodgers has a Chip on the Shoulder Wall at home that he stares at all night as he plots his revenge.

 

 

 

For the most part, the players are moronic. But I think we've all known that for a while now. And the NFLN still comes off looking moronic for coming up with the idea and running with it. But based on the dust up this has caused I guess NFLN is perfectly ok with their handy work. 

 

Meanwhile, somewhere Skip Bayless is thinking up way's to grab some of this attention back. 

 

Rinse. Repeat. 

 

 

9/4/14  --  Rodgers with a sh!t eating grin during the postgame after bitch slappin' the Seahawks: "Well, I was only the 11th best player out there tonight."

 

 

That sounds just like him, actually.

In his second year in the NFL. Julius Peppers watched Adam Vinatieri kick a FG with 4 seconds left and lose a Super Bowl. He probably thought he'd have plenty more chances with a young gunslinger like Jake Delhomme at QB. Jake went straight to **** and then Green Bay crushed his dreams in 2010 and then again in 2013. 

 

On or about his 3rd day in camp its going to hit home that ring is right in front of him.  And kids like Worthy, Perry, Boyd, Malumba, Bradford, Clinton-Dix, Neal, Hayward, Thornton, Jones, and Barrington are going to watch a decorated All-Pro freak of nature work his ass off and tell them all to take full advantage of the ridiculous fortune of being on this team at this time because that ring is a true bitch to get. 

 

I didnt get his signing when it happened. I get it now. 

I see JJ Watt is listed at #12.  I like Watt and he is a very good player but how many good to elite DL are there in the NFL? 15?  20?

On the other hand, how many game changing QBs are there in the NFL?  4? 5? 

The point to make is in this day and age the QB determines overall success and failure more than any other position. 

If you have an elite QB - and the Packers have one - the field is always tilted in your favor.  A guy like Watt does not come close to having that kind of impact and this is why these lists are meaningless

Now, if it were LT in his prime maybe that's different but I am not even sure he would be as important today due to rule changes and scheming and wide open passing games

It's not revenge -  it's a reckoning

Joe Flacco and Russell Wilson have won the last two super bowls so that theory is blown out of proportion but still Aaron Rodgers is still worthy of higher ranking then what he got

He makes $20 million a year and dates Olivia Munn. Something tells me he'll get over being ranked 11th in a meaningless poll.

Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl too outliers rejoice

Jeff Hostetler, Brad Johnson & Mark Rypien all won a SB too. They all musta been elite.

Mark Rypien was playing at an elite level at the time.  IIRC, he was the regular season and SB MVP that season.  Flacco was playing at an elite level in the playoffs a couple of years ago.  

 

Go down the list and show me SB-winning QBs who are more like Brad Johnson/Dilfer/Hostetler and compare them to the number of elite QBs like Rodgers/Montana/etc.  It's not a close comparison.  

 

 

You can say that guys like Brady and Manning and Rodgers should have more titles but the reality is if you have a true difference  maker at QB you are going to put yourself in a position just about every year to compete for a Super Bowl

Here's the complete list:

 

Super Bowl 1. Bart Starr (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 2. Bart Starr (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 3. Joe Namath (MVP), 0 TDs
Super Bowl 4. Len Dawson (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 5. John Unitas (Chuck Howley), 1 TD
Super Bowl 6. Roger Staubach (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 7. Bob Griese (Jake Scott), 1 TD
Super Bowl 8. Bob Griese (Larry Csonka), 0 TDs
Super Bowl 9. Terry Bradshaw (Franco Harris), 1 TD
Super Bowl 10. Terry Bradshaw (Lynn Swann), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 11. Ken Stabler (Fred Biletnikoff), 1 TD
Super Bowl 12. Roger Staubach (Harvey Martin & Randy White), 0 TDs
Super Bowl 13. Terry Bradshaw (MVP), 4 TDs
Super Bowl 14. Terry Bradshaw (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 15. Jim Plunkett (MVP), 3 TDs
Super Bowl 16. Joe Montana (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 17. Joe Theismann (John Riggins), 2 TDs,
Super Bowl 18. Jim Plunkett (Marcus Allen), 1 TD
Super Bowl 19. Joe Montana (MVP), 3 TDs
Super Bowl 20. Jim McMahon (Richard Dent), 0 TDs
Super Bowl 21. Phil Simms (MVP), 3 TDs
Super Bowl 22. Doug Williams (MVP), 4 TDs
Super Bowl 23. Joe Montana (Jerry Rice), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 24. Joe Montana (MVP), 5 TDs
Super Bowl 25. Jeff Hostetler (Ottis Anderson), 1 TD
Super Bowl 26. Mark Rypien (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 27. Troy Aikman (MVP), 4 TDs
Super Bowl 28. Troy Aikman (Emmitt Smith), O TDs
Super Bowl 29. Steve Young (MVP), 6 TDs
Super Bowl 30. Troy Aikman (Larry Brown), 1 TD
Super Bowl 31. Brett Favre (Desmond Howard), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 32. John Elway (Terrell Davis), 0 TDs
Super Bowl 33. John Elway (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 34. Kurt Warner (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 35. Trent Dilfer (Ray Lewis), 1 TD
Super Bowl 36. Tom Brady (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 37. Brad Johnson (Dexter Jackson), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 38. Tom Brady (MVP), 3 TDs
Super Bowl 39. Tom Brady (Deion Branch), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 40. Ben Roethlisberger (Hines Ward), 0 TDs
Super Bowl 41. Peyton Manning (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 42. Eli Manning (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 43: Ben Roethlisberger (Santonio Holmes), 1 TD
Super Bowl 44: Drew Brees (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 45: Aaron Rogers (MVP), 3TDs
Super Bowl 46: Eli Manning (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 47: Joe Flacco (MVP), 3TDs
Super Bowl 48: Russell Wilson, 2TDs

 

Not too many scrubs here.  

I guess I was mistaken, seems Jeff Hostetler is an elite QB.

 

 

I have to rethink that whole if you were to start a team who would be your first choice... I used to always say Reggie White now it's a toss-up between Hostetler & Rypien.

That's my thought JJSD

A guy like Dilfer might win a SB here or there but that's not the norm.   Look at how many elite or HOF quarterbacks are on that list.  The vast majority. 

There are exceptions - but those are explainable too.  Dilfer had a once in a decade defense backing him up.  Simms had LT and the Big Tuna, etc.