Packers 2015 FA's... what would you do?

Against Mark Sanchez and Jake Locker. Context is important.

That duo sounds a lot like Jay Cutler and Teddy B.  The kid had a good season, give him the credit he deserves.

 

That said, let's wait a another year or so to see what D. Goodson becomes before calling the move a complete blunder.

Williams deal with the Brown came in

 

2015

2016

2017

I'll actually be surprised if he sees the 2016 money. He definitely won't see the 2017 money.

 

I hope he plays at a pro bowl level this year. 3rd round comp pick would be nice

Give me a break. In this situation, context is only important when you're desperately attempting to validate an opinion.

God forbid someone have an opinion different than heyward the genius...

A fight over Rolle? LOL!
What about Charles Johnson? How many games did he start with the Queens?  TT must go.

And the Chefs just re-signed Dez Moses!!

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A fight over Rolle? LOL!

Doesn't everybody fight over Esther Rolle?

Far from a genius. Just more knowledgeable than you.

Recess!

Clearly heyward.

I'm not fighting. I'm just taking a page from Henry's Guide to Being a Free Range A-hole.

Wow, Just WOW...

the self love in these 8 words just cannot be mistaken...

you go, boy.....

GD, keep posting your posts. Your opinion is very much appreciated by me!

No! Fight, fight, fight!!!

You are doing it all wrong. I don't see the pink feather.

It's what you don't see that you need to worry about.

So you are imagining Henry at his computer with no pants and a pink feather.............

Dammit I can't even do that right!

There is no right way to do that.

Unless you sprout a Solari?

Julius Peppers is going to put his ****ing hands on a Lombardi Trophy this year. That's all I have to say about that. 

Sounds like they're trying to keep Raji.

 

http://gnb.scout.com/story/153...raji-working-on-deal

Of course they are...

 

He was standing on the sidelines at the games all year long. He loves Green Bay & wants another ring. He fits what we do here.

Get injured and soak up a spot on IR?

 

Raji is going to play like a beast next year at NT, you can mark that down right now. He wants to go out and earn that monster contract in 2016. I doubt the Packers will be the ones that give it to him, but he'll give them what they need at NT to win another title next year. Once Raji and Guion are back in the fold, I think the Packers will have a very good defensive line next year. If they can add a quality CB and solve what is right now an unmitigated disaster at ILB (they literally have no one there but Matthews, and he shouldn't be playing there), they could have a very good defense next year.

Raji saying all the right things.  And, yes he's thinking all about producing on the field next season and then signing a big contract.  Shouldn't cost the Packers much for one season.  Hope he can regain the old form.

 

http://www.jsonline.com/sports...391z1-296011161.html

 

 

He looked great last year at NT before he tore up his arm in the preseason. When they were playing him at DE, he got worse every year. The guy can play when he wants to. The fact that he's shown in the past that he'll mail it in when he's not happy is why I wouldn't want them to sign him to a long term contract in 2016.

FTFY.  Asking a NT to play DE is like asking a guard or center to play tackle.  Different body type and skill set.  Expecting him to play out of position and excel was just poor coaching.  If he's healthy this year, I fully expect him to bounce back and be at least an above average NT.  

Or like asking a DE to play OLB. Yet Perry has been viewed as a disappointment. Can't chalk this one up to poor coaching, Just the belief Perry was athletic enough to make the move. Not an easy thing to do. 

Yeah, college turning out all these undersized DEs (He's over 215# and can rush the passer? Put him at DE!) and spread formation QBs (Under center, what's that?) definitely makes evaluating those positions much more difficult.

Perry was 6'3" and 270 coming out of USC. I'm sure the thinking was Greene could take that athleticism and turn him onto an OLB. He's certainly had flashes, and injuries. It's hard to take these guys and ask them to do something different. 

I think Perry is plenty athletic enough to handle OLB. Perry has been actually pretty solid at OLB, IMO, when he's been healthy/available. You could argue that not putting him at LOLB is out of position because he was significantly better at ROLB.

NTs like Raji are supposed to be at NT or 3-tech and nowhere else. They're don't generally have the athletic skillset you want from a 5-tech, they're built to brawl in the interior. They're not built to press the OT, set the edge and move laterally with the play. In fairness though, legit 5-tech Ends don't grow on trees. There's a reason so many teams run a 43, it's hard to find a legit guy like Justin Smith or Brett Keisel. Most of those guys want to slim down and be pass rushers where the big money is at. So when you're a 34 team and you're missing an End your option is to plug in anothe DL who may not necessarily be suited for it or make a fundamental shift in philosophy and switch to a scheme that you do have the right guys for. I guess it's easier just to plug in an ill fitting player than switch a different scheme.

I don't share the optimism for B.J. Raji.  The guy hasn't been a very good player outside the last half of 2010.  The Packer's run defense tanked when he went in the starting lineup, and he was basically invisible as a pass rusher in the last three seasons he played.

 

I'm all for moving on from him but couldn't argue if the Packers brought him back on a 1 year, 2 million dollar deal or something like that.  There really doesn't appear to be any other good options in terms of free agency (in this case meaning players released by other teams), so if the Packers don't get locked into a multi-year deal they might as well roll the dice with Raji.  Raji/Guion/Pennel band-aids the position well enough (assuming Guion doesn't get suspended) where big Ted could wait and address nose guard during the 2016 off-season.

 

The sad thing is this guy probably could be a monster if someone could light a fire under his ass.  Is that Raji's problem or the coaching staff's problem?  All I know is this guy should be way better than he has been, he proved that the last half of 2010. 

Only if you put your hands on the throat of a dip-schyt Vikings fan.

 

Deal?

Your timeline of when Raji started disappearing coincides with his being moved to DE more frequently. Pickett couldn't handle DE any longer so they had to slids Raji over to shore up the weakness. Raji was moved back to NT before 2014 and by all accounts was having a great camp.

If some unfortunate accident should befall a certain timid, spirited Viking transplant in Northern CA it's wise that I don't leave an electronically traceable trail of bread crumbs. 

 

On the record I wish her nothing but the best and I discourage violence. Off the record I say code reds are an invaluable part of  community training. 

 

I mean community togetherness....

While I agree that playing Raji at DE was not the right decision, based on what I know, I'm just as interested to know how he accepted his new responsibilities. IOW, did he give full effort or did he go through the motions?

I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, but the proof of the pudding is in the eating. And B.J. likes to eat...

Exactly.  We see it the exact same way.  If Raji really was a lazy POS, why did he stay in Green Bay for rehab.  Why was he seen being so active in practice teaching the young guys who could take his job?  And why was he seen on the sidelines for every game?  That isn't normal for most players, especially not players on a 1 year contract (Finley did not do this in 2010).  Being on IR almost segregates you from the team and some players handle it poorly.  Raji didn't and that's a big reason why I think TT is interested in bringing him back.  

 

And Raji wasn't actually that terrible as a DE, which I think is a testament to him.  He wasn't good but he was serviceable.  Not bad when you're playing out of position.  And he never complained even though he had to know it was bad for his career.  

 

I guess time will tell but I have very high hopes for Raji as a NT.  

Has Raji ever been accused of being overweight?  If he has, I honestly don't remember it.  

Actually, I was poking fun more than 'calling him out'. 

Judging by the picture in the linked story that Packy provided above, he didn't look like he was missing too many meals. 

But, come to think of it, didn't one or more of the beat reporters/internet media guys write that he showed up over weight and out of shape a year or 2 ago? I don't recall if that was the actual case, but it seems I remember the accusation.