Packers' 2016 Offseason Notes

Since Thompson/Packers denied the requests for interview it seems obvious the front office guys have clauses in their contracts about going to competitors where they need the approval. So, McGinn's report is really a non-story. From the JSO article none of the group mentioned (Wolf, Gutekunst or Highsmith) have ever publicly complained about the contract they signed. Each them will move up or to another team when they are ready. When they are ready will be as much their decision as it will be their managers. Seems like the Packers have a proven process for developing their front office / personnel guys.

Draft and develop, top to bottom.

I wonder how that third string water boy is coming along.

It also seems like those three have consistently been getting promotions the last few years. So it's not like Thompson is holding them here against their wills, he's rewarding them for their work. 

DH13 posted:

Draft and develop, top to bottom.

I wonder how that third string water boy is coming along.

The question, as McGinn brought up in the article also, is are they getting promoted, or "promotions". Sure, some extra cash and even a shiny, new title are nice, but if your goal is to be "the guy" in an organization, that can sometimes ring a little hollow when you're blocked from that opportunity. Being appreciated in a solid environment only goes so far for so long. Dorsey, Schneider and McKenzie were maybe overdue for their shots and it does make one wonder if it was to the point where they were going to start making noise if they didn't get their opportunity. 

Based on how long Dorsey (1991 - 2012 w/1999 in SEA), Schneider (1993-1996, 2002-2009) and McKenzie (1994–2011) were with GB, I expect Wolf and Thompson knew exactly what kind of men they were. I don't think petulant would describe any of them.

I think Thompson just wants to make sure he's covered for when he loses talent. He drafts a year ahead of potential needs often times on the roster and I think he probably thinks along the same lines with his front office staff. Maybe he wanted to wait to let Dorsey, Schneider, and McKenzie go until he knew for sure he had a viable replacement in the organization. Perhaps he doesn't have that guy yet to replace Wolf, Gutekunst, or Highsmith yet. I'm sure Miami will go through another round of house cleaning in a few years and Highsmith would be on the short list for that job, that's his turf after all. 

http://www.packersnews.com/sto...d-ray-drew/83514054/

The Green Bay Packers announced they released defensive end Ray Drew on Monday, a street free agent they signed only 42 days ago.

Drew was released one week after the Packers opened their offseason program.

Boris posted:

They can't have him

If they get him he will suck

They released Ray Drew?  Season's over.  

Hungry5 posted:

Based on how long Dorsey (1991 - 2012 w/1999 in SEA), Schneider (1993-1996, 2002-2009) and McKenzie (1994–2011) were with GB, I expect Wolf and Thompson knew exactly what kind of men they were. I don't think petulant would describe any of them.

I'm not saying they are/were. However, at some point even good guys reach their breaking point. After 10 or 15 years I can see even "good soldiers" getting a little irritated if they're continually denied their shot.

When will we start tapping into the Mike Sherman NFL tree

Considering all three also worked with Sherman and started under Wolf......

And Schneider had left and came back under Sherman......

I guess if their breaking point meant missing out on going to a team where the owner is a micro-managing dick, than yes, they might get a little irritated. Just not that many positive situations in the NFL for GMs.

ChilliJon posted:

I'd tap that.

You're assuming they all wanted to leave and were denied the chance. Perhaps McKenzie was waiting for the Raiders job to open up. These are smart guys, they have seen many of their peers get power hungry and take the first job that opened up. Dorsey and Schneider waited for teams that had roster talent and talented coaches in place. Neither took over a rebuilding job which seems to be where a lot of GMs struggle. 

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sport...iEFT?ocid=spartandhp

Baseless is leaving ESPN too. 

Over due.

Like a library book

Welp. There's another reason not to watch FS1. Who in the fu** thought it'd be a good idea to give him that coin?!

Sportsradio 105.7 The FAN

19 mins ·

Skip Bayless is leaving ESPN. Took a reported $6 MILLION/year deal with FS1. Will you miss him? Follow him? Is he enough to get you to watch FS1? ~mw

Skip is going to Fox. Which opens up the possibility of Cowherd, Skip, Whitlock, Travis and possibly Curt Schilling giving enough glowing white hot takes to burn every media platform to antimatter. 

I'll put this here too.

.@RealSkipBayless i want to poop in the center console of your Prius

— Tom Crabtree (@itsCrab) April 26, 2016

Top 10 of dumb.

This is how he stays employed.

Rob Demovsky ESPN Staff Writer 

The Packers will decline the fifth-year option on 2013 first-round draft pick Datone Jones, according to a source. Jones is now in a prove-it season.

another 1st rounder that I thought would fill a need and possibly shine...  yet here we are.

packerboi posted:

Welp. There's another reason not to watch FS1. Who in the fu** thought it'd be a good idea to give him that coin?!

Sportsradio 105.7 The FAN

19 mins ·

Skip Bayless is leaving ESPN. Took a reported $6 MILLION/year deal with FS1. Will you miss him? Follow him? Is he enough to get you to watch FS1? ~mw

I haven't listened to anything Skip Bayless has said in years. I've never watched his show with Stephen A. Smith once.

He's not a journalist, he's like a lot of politicians. Just say a bunch of dumb sh!t and make incendiary comments and hope it gets you noticed. It's worked for him.

I like Jones getting the prove it year. Think he's coming on, moving to Elephant, I believe...

I will be grateful to FS1 for as long as Bayless is there.  Have absolutely zero interest in whatever FS1 is.  As far as I'm concerned FS1 may as well be a deep dark well they threw him in.  He's gone and we can rejoice.

What's FS1? 

It's the channel that shows the Champions League matches. 

We all know everybody cares about the CL. 

YATittle posted:

I like Jones getting the prove it year. Think he's coming on, moving to Elephant, I believe...

Hopefully that helps. He hasn't been horrible but certainly nowhere near where most thought he'd be as a first round pick. Both him and Perry in "prove it" years.

Then again. Maybe it was just a schitty draft year...

If you recall, Joeckel was the 1st overall pick in that year. #bust

• Patriots won’t pick up Jonathan Cooper’s option
• Jaguars won’t pick up Luke Joeckel’s 2017 option
• Broncos decline option on Sylvester Williams

I read that the Packers will save $8M in cap dollars by not picking up the option on Datone. Likely another smert move, but if he "proves it" this year, what will be the cost to re-sign him then?

Tdog posted:

another 1st rounder that I thought would fill a need and possibly shine...  yet here we are.

Yeah....he's been pretty average. Better than being a complete bust though.

Timmy! posted:

I read that the Packers will save $8M in cap dollars by not picking up the option on Datone. Likely another smert move, but if he "proves it" this year, what will be the cost to re-sign him then?

TT won't have Peppers to pay then either.  So that will free up more money. 

Draft pick? UFA? RFA? UDFA?

Just get some football players!

Whatever. The players don't count unless they are first round picks.