Packers Name Jeff Hafley New Defensive Coordinator for 2024

@R MaN posted:

There is no reason for anyone on any platform to make judgments 20 minutes into a person's tenure. Doesn't mean he'll be good...but for them to talk now is stupid

Yup, I’ll give him a game or two.

Nailed it!

@R MaN posted:

Far from it.  I’m talking about Twitter (X) not here.

Sarcasm RMan. We all know you are right...Haters are some of the same ones that hated the Jordan Love pick. Hopefully this guy produces as good as JL did and makes them eat a little or lot of crow.

@packerboi posted:

Coach Jeff Hafley (BC) Press Coverage DB Thread

Why press coverage - eliminates route tree, forces WRs to declare now

Inside release - slant, dig, post (wide split)

Outside release - go,comeback (wide split) pic.twitter.com/N1Z1SF2KBl

— Chris Haddad (@chrisvIQtory) February 11, 2023

Exactly what San Fran did to Detoilet on the 4th down plays.   I'll take that defense any day and twice on Sunday. And maybe Thursday and monday Nights. 

I think the consensus at the end of the season was that Matt LaFleur had to go find his Matt LaFleur on defense.

Maybe he just did that ? 🤔🧐

It’s official. From packers.com:

@packerboi posted:

I think the consensus at the end of the season was that Matt LaFleur had to go find his Matt LaFleur on defense.

Maybe he just did that ? 🤔🧐

You have come full circle in 45 minutes my boi

@DH13 posted:

Takes two to tango.

It takes three to trois.

Will he turn his angel eyes my way? 

Hafley will be purchasing the house previously just bought by Christian Parker who just quit X4.

If this guy truly has his defense play a more aggressive style, especially at CB, I'm all for it.  If he rolls with a 43 defense, I THINK Van Ness (272), Gary (277) and Smith (265) are big enough to play DE.  

I mean... GB probably can't do any worse than JB if we're being honest.

@Iowacheese posted:

You have come full circle in 45 minutes my boi

lol perhaps. The hiring of a bff still concerns me. But on the + side, getting out of this fucking zone/playing a WR ten yards off the LOS alone has me thrilled. Way, way too much of that under dingle Barry.  

And Kenny Clark/Wyatt/Van Ness and even Gary are probably better suited for a 4-3.

It does sound like GB will need top flight ILBs however. That ain’t Campbell anymore. A priority in the draft?

Grab a DL, DB and S in the draft for him.

@Pakrz posted:

If this guy truly has his defense play a more aggressive style, especially at CB, I'm all for it.  If he rolls with a 43 defense, I THINK Van Ness (272), Gary (277) and Smith (265) are big enough to play DE.  

I mean... GB probably can't do any worse than JB if we're being honest.

It sure would be nice to not have Preston Smith as CB1 as well

@packerboi posted:

It sure would be nice to not have Preston Smith as CB1 as well

I thought he was finally starting to get the hang of it though.

ESPN's @PeteThamel reports "some -- or all" of the Packers current assistant defensive coaches could return under Jeff Hafley.

Also says Hafley is a long-time friend of Matt LaFleur.

Hope this works out

— Zach Kruse (@zachkruse2) February 1, 2024

One of the Packer beat writers said that Murphy doesn't like paying coaches to not coach. And that whoever they picked as DC is going to need to be ok with keeping most of the current assistant coaches.

It's possible Parker actually was offered the job but wanted more say in coaches and the Packers weren't moving on that. There were rumors that this was one of the reasons Jim Leonard turned down the job last time, because he didn't have enough say in his coaches.

With Hafley being fed up with the NIL and college football, he probably was fine with this.

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@vitaflo posted:

One of the Packer beat writers said that Murphy doesn't like paying coaches to not coach.

What was he doing with Joe Barry?

@vitaflo posted:

ESPN's @PeteThamel reports "some -- or all" of the Packers current assistant defensive coaches could return under Jeff Hafley.

Also says Hafley is a long-time friend of Matt LaFleur.

Hope this works out

— Zach Kruse (@zachkruse2) February 1, 2024

One of the Packer beat writers said that Murphy doesn't like paying coaches to not coach. And that whoever they picked as DC is going to need to be ok with keeping most of the current assistant coaches.

It's possible Parker actually was offered the job but wanted more say in coaches and the Packers weren't moving on that. There were rumors that this was one of the reasons Jim Leonard turned down the job last time, because he didn't have enough say in his coaches.

With Hafley being fed up with the NIL and college football, he probably was fine with this.

That would all be really bad if true. Fatal flaw bad.

@Dr._Bob posted:

Gute doesn't think.  Gute knows.

Wasn't there a Packers DL'man who had insomnia and whose roommate said about him, "He doesn't sleep, he waits".

@packerboi posted:

lol perhaps. The hiring of a bff still concerns me. But on the + side, getting out of this fucking zone/playing a WR ten yards off the LOS alone has me thrilled. Way, way too much of that under dingle Barry.  

And Kenny Clark/Wyatt/Van Ness and even Gary are probably better suited for a 4-3.

It does sound like GB will need top flight ILBs however. That ain’t Campbell anymore. A priority in the draft?

One of the beat writers suggested Quay could be used how Parsons is used in DAL.  All over the place.

Athletic freak, let him go hunt.

Hour long interview with Hafley. Posted yesterday. What bad timing for BC. lol

@DH13 posted:

That would all be really bad if true. Fatal flaw bad.

It’s Mark Murphy. Are we all that surprised ? That meddling moron cannot retire soon enough..

This fucking place.  A confederacy of dunces.

@antooo posted:

Wasn't there a Packers DL'man who had insomnia and whose roommate said about him, "He doesn't sleep, he waits".

I think that was said about Mike Neal if I'm remembering correctly. I think Mike was also caught up in a 'supplement' scandal as well.

“He wants to go coach football again in a league that is all about football,”

Wolf used to talk about drafting football players. I want football players and football coaches.

@vitaflo posted:

There were rumors that this was one of the reasons Jim Leonard turned down the job last time, because he didn't have enough say in his coaches

Meanwhile “the great” Jim Lionhard remains under employed

@Brak posted:

This fucking place.  A confederacy of dunces.

A Murderers Row of middle-aged mediocrity.

Hafely has more diverse experiences than the others that were interviewed ;

12 years in the NFL, all as a DB coach

1 year as a college DC  

3 years as a college HC

Doesn't mean he is going to great, but to say he doesn't stack up against other guys mentioned does not seem accurate.

@Benzene posted:

I have a right to hate things for irrational reasons.  

It’s in the Geneva Convention.

I believe it was in the Lake Geneva Convention.  Easily confused for one another.

@Iowacheese posted:

A Murderers Row of middle-aged mediocrity.

I'm an old fuck. Do I still have my membership to the club?

@vitaflo posted:

ESPN's @PeteThamel reports "some -- or all" of the Packers current assistant defensive coaches could return under Jeff Hafley.

Also says Hafley is a long-time friend of Matt LaFleur.

Hope this works out

— Zach Kruse (@zachkruse2) February 1, 2024

One of the Packer beat writers said that Murphy doesn't like paying coaches to not coach. And that whoever they picked as DC is going to need to be ok with keeping most of the current assistant coaches.

It's possible Parker actually was offered the job but wanted more say in coaches and the Packers weren't moving on that. There were rumors that this was one of the reasons Jim Leonard turned down the job last time, because he didn't have enough say in his coaches.

With Hafley being fed up with the NIL and college football, he probably was fine with this.

If true, not really surprising as Green Bay doesn’t, and never will, have an endless coffer of money to pay players not to play and coaches not to coach.

I think fans sometimes forget this.

@Brak posted:

This fucking place.  A confederacy of dunces.

A good read. The book, not this site.

A crony-hire. Would’ve been happier if he hired someone he didn’t know personally. Would’ve been ape-shit happy if he hired someone he never heard of.

@vitaflo posted:

ESPN's @PeteThamel reports "some -- or all" of the Packers current assistant defensive coaches could return under Jeff Hafley.

Also says Hafley is a long-time friend of Matt LaFleur.

Hope this works out

— Zach Kruse (@zachkruse2) February 1, 2024

One of the Packer beat writers said that Murphy doesn't like paying coaches to not coach. And that whoever they picked as DC is going to need to be ok with keeping most of the current assistant coaches.

It's possible Parker actually was offered the job but wanted more say in coaches and the Packers weren't moving on that. There were rumors that this was one of the reasons Jim Leonard turned down the job last time, because he didn't have enough say in his coaches.

With Hafley being fed up with the NIL and college football, he probably was fine with this.

where do you guys hear these rumors?  do you guys personally know Joe and Patty from Packerchatters fame.

I don't think the Murphy doesn't like to pay coaches not to coach has ever been verified. I personally doubt it, they've paid a lot more money to players not playing for them over the years.

So far the only negative I'm reading here on Hafley is he's a friend of LaFleur.

@vitaflo posted:

Hour long interview with Hafley. Posted yesterday. What bad timing for BC. lol

So I watched all of this.  It's obvious he's not happy with NIL and how the college world has changed, which is different from when he first started coaching in college.  He seems like a really down to earth guy and doesn't seem like a guy who just says a lot of coach speak.  Seems really humble actually and really honest in his answers.

Says his style is not to yell at players when they make a mistake, it's to...actually coach them on what to do to not make that mistake again.  As he says "There's a lot of coaches out there who just yell and forget to actually coach".

Obvious his passion is coaching DB's.  He coached Derrelle Revis in college and says Revis was so good, he learned a thing or two from him.  Says he learned things from all the great players he coached that have helped him be a better coach.

I don't care much about college football but his thoughts on NIL and the current landscape were really refreshingly honest.  That basically current day college HC's need to be HC, GM, scout, head of finance, team president, all in one.  Whereas in the NFL a coach just needs to be a coach.

Definitely feel much better about the person after watching it.  We'll see if he has the scheme or not.

@R MaN posted:

There is no reason for anyone on any platform to make judgments 20 minutes into a person's tenure. Doesn't mean he'll be good...but for them to talk now is stupid

I still haven't decided where I stand on Angry Bald Man.