https://www.si.com/nfl/packers...ge-under-jeff-hafley
Didn't realize McDuffie played for Hafley his senior year at BC. He sounds pretty excited to have him as a coach again.
https://www.si.com/nfl/packers...ge-under-jeff-hafley
Didn't realize McDuffie played for Hafley his senior year at BC. He sounds pretty excited to have him as a coach again.
Players love aggressive.
โBeing a football player, we want opportunities to change the game,โ McDuffie said.
Whoa whoa ...WHOA!!! Slow down there....we need to play zone shell 12 yards off LOS to limit big plays there ....McDuffie. Slow your roll!!
Seriously, what are you gonna do, tackle someone? The nerve.
@vitaflo posted:https://www.si.com/nfl/packers...ge-under-jeff-hafley
Didn't realize McDuffie played for Hafley his senior year at BC. He sounds pretty excited to have him as a coach again.
Aha nepotism! This game of football is one big incest fest. ๐คฌ Iโm willing to bet 99% of the pros played college football too.
@BrainDed posted:Firing him prior to the 2023 season was justified. I'm sure someone who likes stats can make an easy case.
Perhaps if we had a competent DC we would have met SF in the NFCCC game instead of the divisional round. Perhaps we make a stop in crunch time against SF.
I disagree that he handled it well, I think he wasted a year by bringing him back.
Oh agreed. I meant during this season. He absolutely should have been gone last winter.
@GreenBayLA posted:Aha nepotism! This game of football is one big incest fest. ๐คฌ Iโm willing to bet 99% of the pros played college football too.
Before you bet, check with Boris on the over/under.
Haha.....This thread is about the new DC... I think 99% is a good line.
Head over to the Super Bowl thread for the latest current line.
I love hearing players say the word "aggressive" when they talk about Hafley's defensive scheme. My dentist was worried about my molars from grinding them whenever GB had the lead and the other team got the ball.
@GreenBayLA posted:Aha nepotism! This game of football is one big incest fest. ๐คฌ Iโm willing to bet 99% of the pros played college football too.
They are described by some as scholar athletes
Students of the game.
It's a scholarship fund.
The joke that college football was a scholarship fund has been obvious for years. It's now turned into a contest of who has the best marketing department to get players NIL deals. Then, if you develop a player into an elite talent, OSU, Alabama, LSU, Michigan, Texas, etc. just outbid you and take him away.
College football is now basically the NFL with free agency every year. Harbaugh won by supplementing good recruiting classes by signing NFL-level lineman from the transfer portal. It's a great strategy. Even 5 star OL/DL prospects need a couple of years in the weight room to grow into their bodies. Let the other schools develop them and then buy them once they've put on 50 pounds of muscle.
https://www.ashlandsource.com/...-state-team-in-2024/
Michiganโs philosophy is simple: Utilize NIL cash to attract the nationโs top Power 5 transfers, particularly in the trenches.
In 2021, Jim Harbaughโs staff brought in Jordan Whittley (Oregon State) to join the defensive line.
In 2022, Olusegun Oluwatimi won the Rimington and Outland Trophy at center for the Wolverines after transferring in from Virginia. Defensive lineman Cam Goode was brought in from Central Florida.
In 2023, Myles Hinton and Drake Nugent arrived from Stanford, along with Arizona Stateโs LaDarius Henderson, all to enhance the offensive line.
Ohio State was sick of losing to Michigan, so they were rumored to have spent north of 10 million dollars in the transfer portal this year.
That was brought on by TOG.
@ammo posted:That was brought on by TOG.
We need to clarify some definitions at this point.
For well over a decade, TOG meant Favre.
Is Favre still the other guy (TOG)? Is Rodgers the other, other guy (TOOG) or the next other guy (TNOG).
I'll wait for Shadow's reponse.
Packers HC Matt LaFleur has told defensive assistant coaches that they are free to explore other options
(Per Tom Silverstein, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel)
@Pikes Peak posted:They are described by some as scholar athletes
That's "ATHLETE students" in real life.
@YATittle posted:Packers HC Matt LaFleur has told defensive assistant coaches that they are free to explore other options
(Per Tom Silverstein, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel)
I would guess that they can explore, but it also leaves the door cracked for good ones to stay. If someone like Montgomery finds a place he wants to be instead of GB (), he's free to go; if he wants to stay, he can talk to Hafley about doing that. Hafley then decides if it will happen or not.
At least Hafley gets to decide; when Pettine was shown the door, Barry had to keep the assistants. Maybe part of Hafley's deal was that he had say in who stays and who goes?
Interesting if true.
@AaronWilson_NFL: Regarded as a future #NFL head coach, new #Ravens defensive coordinator Zach Orr had options if 31-year-old former linebacker hadn't been promoted from inside linebackers coach. Orr had an offer from #Packers to be their defensive coordinator, per league source, but opted to remain in Baltimore.
@ilcuqui posted:Interesting if true.
@AaronWilson_NFL: Regarded as a future #NFL head coach, new #Ravens defensive coordinator Zach Orr had options if 31-year-old former linebacker hadn't been promoted from inside linebackers coach. Orr had an offer from #Packers to be their defensive coordinator, per league source, but opted to remain in Baltimore.
Are these the same sources that said Hafley was close personal friends with MLF and wouldnโt get a say in his own coaching staff?
It should be mandatory for, *Bullshit* to be inserted immediately following the word, "sources" whenever they are credited as being the origin for any type of news.
@Maxi54 posted:It should be mandatory for, *Bullshit* to be inserted immediately following the word, "sources" whenever they are credited as being the origin for any type of news.
Woodward, Bernstein and Mark Felt would disagree.
@Pikes Peak posted:Woodward, Bernstein and Mark Felt would disagree.
But discerning which is which requires critical thinking skills rather than approaching information with blunt force ignorance.
That is correct. Everything they learned about Watergate had to be verified twice before it would run in the paper. They said later there was more stuff out there that Deep Throat told them, but because they couldn't confirm it from other sources, they never ran it. Good journalism. We need more of it.
For the record, a team source tells me this is categorically untrue. They offered the job to one guy. The one that accepted it. https://t.co/se6v5Nh8It
โ Aaron Nagler (@AaronNagler) February 2, 2024
@vitaflo posted:For the record, a team source tells me this is categorically untrue. They offered the job to one guy. The one that accepted it. https://t.co/se6v5Nh8It
โ Aaron Nagler (@AaronNagler) February 2, 2024
The funny thing is, nobody should give a shit either way. Would anyone really be upset if a guy stayed with a promotion to the same position from a team in the conference championship game? With all the instability in coaching why wouldn't he want to not uproot everyone and move half-way across the country? Harbaugh's tenure is only a year less than Tomlin's for the most stable job in the NFL. And if he's that good, why wouldn't the Ravens promote him when McDonald got a head job (and Weaver getting the Dolphins job)?
I just want to know why all these coaches are linked to Packer job(s) (via "sources" ) and not any other team?
Wild guess, clicks?
I think it goes back to our dominance in the Campbell's Clicks for Cans days. As a fan base, we exposed our achilles.
Regarding Hafley, I credit the guy for being honest about his situation. College football is becoming quite the mess with NIL and itโs only going to get worse. Boston College has no chance in the new world of NIL.
The biggest 6-8 programs will basically drive the market through their โcollectivesโ and everyone else will either have to spend to keep up or get left behind. To that extent, youโll likely have two D1 programs. Those that spend and compete, and those that wonโt and be OK with being just OK.
I think thatโs a big reason why Saban and Harbaugh moved on. Schools (if willing) can buy prospects and even an Alabama wonโt have nearly the same advantages as lesser programs like Ole Miss and Auburn (among others). The pressure to compete will naturally force second tier programs to pay up.
Some of that dominance may get clipped by the lack of quality coaches who are both willing and able to successfully deal with all new NIL/transfer portal recruiting duties that come with jobs at those schools.
It would be tough being in a situation where every year you are not only recruiting prospects to come to your school but also having to recruit your own players every year so they stay knowing that a school like Texas or Ohio State can literally pay them what they want.
A head coach at a major college football program now is probably 80% dedicated to just recruiting and transfer portal. And unlike the pros there is no offseason.
Good for Hafley and hopefully he can make an impact in Green Bay.
They just need to start employing a GM type position to retain and acquire talent. Stupid to put that on the head coach in this new environment. The GM is given his budget from the AD and he goes to work building a roster every year.
@MichiganPacker posted:We need to clarify some definitions at this point.
For well over a decade, TOG meant Favre.
Is Favre still the other guy (TOG)? Is Rodgers the other, other guy (TOOG) or the next other guy (TNOG).
TOG A
TOG B
@BrainDed posted:They just need to start employing a GM type position to retain and acquire talent. Stupid to put that on the head coach in this new environment. The GM is given his budget from the AD and he goes to work building a roster every year.
That's my guess what will happen....putting the GM, "Salary Cap" etc. All on the HC in college is ridiculous.
I'd be leaving too. Eff that....do way less work for more money in the NFL. ๐
I'm thinking the NCAA didn't see this coming with NIL.