Unless it’s against Dallas or against the Cardinals in 2009 or ATL in 2010 when has Rodgers ever been “the man” in the playoffs?
He may not have shit the bed as often as Favre did, but more often than not Rodgers wasn’t a difference maker in the postseason.
Just think if he would have ran that shorty in…I know, not a given by any means and still plenty of time on the clock but the intensity and leadership value would have been off the charts. He ran that in numerous times in his career.
He didn’t try, chose to toss it over the middle to no avail. That’s when he lost me.
Some more really bizarre comments from AR surfaced today. Keeping it about football, I'm just more grateful than ever that Jordan Love is the Packers' QB.
@Tschmack posted:Unless it’s against Dallas or against the Cardinals in 2009 or ATL in 2010 when has Rodgers ever been “the man” in the playoffs?
He may not have shit the bed as often as Favre did, but more often than not Rodgers wasn’t a difference maker in the postseason.
I recall a game against the Steelers that he played pretty well. That pass over the middle onto the finger tips of Greg Jennings in the 4th quarter. Best pass in a pressure moment that I have ever witnessed. Absolute laser in the 4th quarter on the biggest stage in the world.
After 2011....He got bored completing the easy pass.....just like Favre.
Last year...2023....Jordan Love was not bored using the offense as designed and completing the easy pass. Let's hope he keeps doing that until he wins MULTIPLE Super Bowl Championships.
@Tschmack posted:Unless it’s against Dallas or against the Cardinals in 2009 or ATL in 2010 when has Rodgers ever been “the man” in the playoffs?
He may not have shit the bed as often as Favre did, but more often than not Rodgers wasn’t a difference maker in the postseason.
Favre shit the bed constantly. Rodgers was never the main reason they lost a playoff game. He could have done more in some cases, but his playoff career shows 45 TDs against 13 interceptions. 10 of 22 games with a QB rating of greater than 100.
@michiganjoe posted:Some more really bizarre comments from AR surfaced today. Keeping it about football, I'm just more grateful than ever that Jordan Love is the Packers' QB.
Yes. It's nice not to have to deal with that media circus.
@michiganjoe posted:Some more really bizarre comments from AR surfaced today. Keeping it about football, I'm just more grateful than ever that Jordan Love is the Packers' QB.
Got any links to those comments?
This is what I'm seeing getting passed around today, but it was pulled from a February 23rd, 2024 interview with Eddie Bravo. Full podcast is behind a paywall.
There goes the Stonewall Inn crowd.
@Boris posted:Disagree as relates to the NFC Championship game vs. Tampa. (game still pisses me off) They picked off Brady THREE fucking times. He didn't do jack shit with those turnovers. Yeah I know Kevin King before the half. They still had opportunities to win that game.
You're the superstar...the guy that can supposedly put the team on his back. I don't GAF Kevin King gave up the TD plus you didn't have your LT. BE THE MAN...He wasn't that day.
I agree his last 2 playoff losses left a lot to be desired. By that time I felt he was done while hoping he wasn't. I was hoping to see him rejuvenated with the jets and show what he could have been with a great defense. Now he has to deal with a huge injury and another year older. This may be his last hurrah. Unless he goes to the vikings next year. Then he is in the toilet with brett.
Old news swept under the rug.
https://packers.timesfour.com/...c/722477610446451809
"Stick to football" please
Years from now. Jets fans will recall love of Rodgers like Viking fans speak lovingly of Favre.
New York Times with a brutal take.
@Timmy! posted:The only problem that I have with Rodgers is that I don't think he was fully committed to the Packers over his last year or two in Green Bay.
100%. His time with the Jets didn't mean anything to me because even if he was MVP in 2023 and won the Super Bowl, I knew it wouldn't have been the same in Green Bay. He looked disinterested in 2022 and I wasn't fully convinced he wanted to play in the 2020 and 2021 playoffs. It was Favre against the Giants in 2007 all over again.
At this point I just want Rodgers to fade away. I don't find him interesting in the least and seems like he's doing everything he can to stay in the headlines just to stay relevant.
Fake news....
https://www.snopes.com/fact-ch...lifetime-suspension/
Partial social engineering to sell CBD's using a fake Rodgers story as clickbait.
Domain Registrar looks like China.
Zach Wilson and a 7th round pick to Denver for a 6th round pick. Ooof.
They were going to get nothing by just cutting him.
Good value by Denver
Jets ruined him. I'm interested to see if he does better elsewhere or if he's just all done.
Wilson was over drafted after a covid season where BYU played a really easy schedule. He was a 3rd round QB, at best. He also ended up on the worst possible team.
Denver is selling it as QB rehab a la Geno Smith. I don't see it. Wilson hasn't even flashed that he's a competent NFL QB. He's been the worst QB in the league the last 2 years. Sean Payton is going to break him. No idea what Denver is planning with this. I think Stidham is a better QB which is not saying much.
@Boris posted:They were going to get nothing by just cutting him.
Good value by Denver
Jets ruined him. I'm interested to see if he does better elsewhere or if he's just all done.
Agree it’s good value for Denver but IMO Payton is totally overrated as a QB developer. Brees was a savant already and Payton showed nothing with Russell Wilson. He basically pissed away a massive investment there by the franchise with his my way or the highway BS. Chances are he will break this Wilson even more.
It definitely will be a referendum on Sean….can’t deal with a 2 time Super Bowl participant and now trying to navigate a season with Stidham and Wilson as your guys. Good luck with that.
My guess he wishes he was back on TV with all the awe he was afforded from his fellow know it alls.
Jets owed Wilson a fully guaranteed $5.5 mil for 2024, regardless if they kept or cut him. As part of the trade to Denver they each will pay half of the $5.5 mil. Denver likely does not make that trade and agree to pay Wilson the $5.5 mil unless the Jets ponied up to pay half of it.
@BrainDed posted:I recall a game against the Steelers that he played pretty well. That pass over the middle onto the finger tips of Greg Jennings in the 4th quarter. Best pass in a pressure moment that I have ever witnessed. Absolute laser in the 4th quarter on the biggest stage in the world.
Bd: I could not agree more! About 30 minutes after that SB was over I rewatched that pass about 50 times. That still is the most accurate pass I have ever seen. Truthfully speaking most Packer fans could say w/o stretching the truth that 12 threw so many passes that almost no other QB would ever attempt.
@PackerHawk posted:Zach Wilson and a 7th round pick to Denver for a 6th round pick. Ooof.
Denver overpaid.
@Goalline posted:Denver overpaid.
That's funny. Although not true IMO.
The Jets ruined him. Rodgers was supposed to fix him by playing all year. He probably would have too. Rodgers has shown he's a good teammate.
I believe Zach could at least be Kirk Cousins in the right situation. I've seen him make all the throws. He isn't Justin Fields. Living behind that awful offensive line is no place for any young QB. Rodgers better be ready to get rid of the ball this year to help out that O-Line or that old man will get killed again.
I saw something the other day about one team acquiring a player from another team because they owned that team a favor. In return, the team trading the player away got an unconditional draft pick that never materialized.
Sounds like one of those trades back in the day that was subtitled "for past considerations".
@DH13 posted:Sounds like one of those trades back in the day that was subtitled "for past considerations".
I thought they couldn't do those type of trades anymore? Ron Wolf did that a lot "for future considerations."
When these GM's make a deal with each other...it's about more than just that current deal. They develop relationships with each other because they both know future deals will be important.
Just like when TT fleeced Belichick (BB drafted that Florida WR, who was garbage) and TT drafted Greg Jennings after the trade down.
When the 2009 draft hit & NE was on the clock, TT traded up and gave BB an EXTRA 3rd rounder and told BB, "I'm going to give you the extra 3, Bill. I know we kind of got you on the 2006 draft."
That extra 3rd was the pick the Pack got for Favre to the Jets
The TT draft pick in 2009? Clay Matthews of course.....and the rest is history.
Championship #13 🏆
@Pikes Peak posted:It definitely will be a referendum on Sean….can’t deal with a 2 time Super Bowl participant and now trying to navigate a season with Stidham and Wilson as your guys. Good luck with that.
My guess he wishes he was back on TV with all the awe he was afforded from his fellow know it alls.
Gotta think they are drafting a QB this year. And with what they have on the roster today that QB will be expected to play early if he's ready or not.
Peyton was essentially correct in his opinion of Nate Hackett but the pile of shit that was dumped on him after voicing that opinion to the world was well deserved. I hope whoever they pick is a colossal flop.
@PackerHawk posted:Peyton was essentially correct in his opinion of Nate Hackett but the pile of shit that was dumped on him after voicing that opinion to the world was well deserved.
Not to mention....there's only ONE reason Nate was made HC of the Broncos....you know who was supposed to be their QB in 2022.
Everything was in place but instead we were forced to endure 2022 Packers season. I wonder why that was??
@Boris posted:I thought they couldn't do those type of trades anymore? Ron Wolf did that a lot "for future considerations."
When these GM's make a deal with each other...it's about more than just that current deal. They develop relationships with each other because they both know future deals will be important.
Just like when TT fleeced Belichick (BB drafted that Florida WR, who was garbage) and TT drafted Greg Jennings after the trade down.
When the 2009 draft hit & NE was on the clock, TT traded up and gave BB an EXTRA 3rd rounder and told BB, "I'm going to give you the extra 3, Bill. I know we kind of got you on the 2006 draft."
That extra 3rd was the pick the Pack got for Favre to the Jets
The TT draft pick in 2009? Clay Matthews of course.....and the rest is history.
Championship #13 🏆
Boris: That trade where the Patriots drafted Chad Jackson and the Packers drafted Jennings was the year of School Girl "Crushes" Jennings to GB was a pretty open secret and I think Jackson was as well. I recall Wolfe gave Belichick
his choice of the picks and the Patriots paid for the higher one because they feared other teams were in love w/ Jacksons speed!
I hope they give Wilson two years to get straightened out. He'll never be great, but he could be a whole lot better and end up a serviceable starter -- provided he can forget NY. In NY he'd make a great throw, and then on the next three dropbacks he'd be crushed by the D with barely time to blink. After a bit, he had to be hearing a stampeding herd of ghosts on every dropback. Give him better coaching and a better line so he has time to learn to read a defense like he's reading a book rather than a billboard, and Denver will have gotten the better of the Jets.
I thought the Jets did really well on Day 1.
Completely fleeced the Vikings out of 4th & 5th rounder, which they can use to get back into round 2 or round 3 if they like. Plus got an excellent LT and we all know how much O-Line help they need.
Also the Raiders got really lucky having Brock Bowers fall right into their lap.
What if the Jets wanted their #41 back and trade for next years first rounder?? Hmm 🤔🤯
The full Aaron Rodgers trade is finally done. Here are all of the players that ended up being part of the trade (whether direct selections or as part of a further trade to move up or down in the draft to get them):
Jets got:
Aaron Rodgers
Will McDonald (DE, 1st '23)
Jarrick Bernard-Converse (CB, 6th '23)
Zach Kuntz (TE, 7th '23)
Jordan Travis (QB, 5th '24)
Packers got:
Lucas Van Ness (DE, 1st '23)
Luke Musgrave (TE, 2nd '23)
Anders Carlson (K, 6th '23)
Edgerrin Cooper (LB, 2nd '24)
Evan Williams (S, 4th '24)
Jacob Monk (C, 5th '24)
I do find it humorous that part of the trade for Rodgers ended up allowing the Jets to draft a QB.
But no OL.
@vitaflo posted:The full Aaron Rodgers trade is finally done. Here are all of the players that ended up being part of the trade (whether direct selections or as part of a further trade to move up or down in the draft to get them):
Jets got:
Aaron Rodgers
Will McDonald (DE, 1st '23)
Jarrick Bernard-Converse (CB, 6th '23)
Zach Kuntz (TE, 7th '23)
Jordan Travis (QB, 5th '24)
Packers got:
Lucas Van Ness (DE, 1st '23)
Luke Musgrave (TE, 2nd '23)
Anders Carlson (K, 6th '23)
Edgerrin Cooper (LB, 2nd '24)
Evan Williams (S, 4th '24)
Jacob Monk (C, 5th '24)
I'll take it.
