@Floridarob posted:Reggie White was considered a bigot for the comments he made about Asians. But do I believe Reggie was a bigot? Absolutely not. I just think his delivery of that message was horrible and I bet he wished he had a do over of that event.
I’d bet my bottom dollar that Reggie agreed with the kicker.
I think Rodgers and Butker and Antonio Brown should get together and start their own podcast. They could cover plenty of important topics including why the effects of CTE not only impact what you say but how you say it. Perhaps throw in Kanye West for good measure. Maybe he can produce it.
@BrainDed posted:I’d bet my bottom dollar that Reggie agreed with the kicker.
Back then yes. After he returned from Israel where he was reading and studying the original scripture, NO! Reggie was about to open a whole bunch of eyes when he died. What a tragedy.
I’m just here for the scripture interpretation and Butker Butthurt
@Goalline posted:Back then yes. After he returned from Israel where he was reading and studying the original scripture, NO! Reggie was about to open a whole bunch of eyes when he died. What a tragedy.
We are in agreement that he was taken out, what I've not yet determined in my research is if it was the Templars, or the Black Hand posing at the Templars.
If you never hear from me again, It was likely because I was getting to close
I will miss you. BTW, it was the Templars. Ask Dan Brown. It is always the Templars.
Years ago I was playing an online game where one of the guilds was the Templar Knights and we received an email from an actual order of the Templar Knights saying that the guild was inappropriate because they are not a game and should be treated with more seriousness and respect. They apparently have eyes everywhere.
Looking forward to seeing a full season out of AR on a team with a dominant D. And it looks like the Jets may have fixed the O-lone issues, at least in May it seems.
And thought there would've been a lot of deleted posts in this thread by now. Guess not.
I'm here for the conspiracy theories. And many of these posts can't be deleted. The Templar is restricted from deleting themselves from any records. For to delete is to deny.
@Dr._Bob posted:Years ago I was playing an online game where one of the guilds was the Templar Knights and we received an email from an actual order of the Templar Knights saying that the guild was inappropriate because they are not a game and should be treated with more seriousness and respect. They apparently have eyes everywhere.
This is totally a Black Hand move
Could we send the Knights Templar after Butker?
His mom is a medical physicist for cancer patients, for pete's sake. His wife studied Industrial Engineering and worked for well-known engineering firms.
While I'm a really strong believer in the First Amendment and agree with Evelyn Beatrice Hall (“I may not agree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"), Butker is definitely trying my patience and my belief in free speech. 
@Fandame posted:Could we send the Knights Templar after Butker?
His mom is a medical physicist for cancer patients, for pete's sake. His wife studied Industrial Engineering and worked for well-known engineering firms.
While I'm a really strong believer in the First Amendment and agree with Evelyn Beatrice Hall (“I may not agree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"), Butker is definitely trying my patience and my belief in free speech.
Nearly all his type are hypocrites. Not surprised to hear that he is surrounded by accomplished women.
Yea, Butker really stepped in for sure. Encouraging those who were stepping out in the career world as well as those biological females who were not joining a career but instead those who would looking forward to being a wife and mother. And to think he did this at a catholic graduation commencement where he as a devout catholic was invited to spew such vile stuff. If only he had spent the off season with Rashee Rice or someone like him and beat up someone or crashed a car doing over 100 MPH. If only he had made better decisions. Tough Crowd these days....
Another Opinion or three
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Butker has also received encouragement from prominent Catholic leaders. Bishop James Johnston of the Diocese of Kansas City said in a statement:
“Harrison Butker’s passion for his Catholic faith and his family are beautiful and well known. And like most people, he also has strong opinions on where we are as a Church and as a nation. The Catholic Church believes that God calls everyone to pursue holiness no matter what path they take. As St. Paul notes, that diversity of callings and vocations is essential to the life and mission of the Church. I support Mr. Butker’s right to share his faith and express his opinions.”
Bill Donuhue, President of the Catholic League, wrote in a statement on Thursday that Butker “nailed it” during the commencement speech. “His courage and his commitment to Catholicism is laudatory,” Donohue said. “A heralded Catholic football player defends traditional moral values at a Catholic college — how novel.”
If society is to judge the propriety of certain speech, then consideration must be given to the unique values of the community in which the speech is shared. There should be some acceptance of the fact that different communities carry different customs and beliefs.
Despite the initial uproar, Butker’s views appear to have broader appeal. Within hours of the controversy breaking, his jersey became one of the top selling in the NFL, eclipsing even his Kansas City MVP teammate Patrick Mahomes. By Friday, all female-sized Butker jerseys at NFL.com had been sold out.
Butker has received support from teammates, including Mississippi-native Chris Jones, who posted on X that he loved the kicker and called him “my brotha.” Following an effort by the NFL to distance itself from Butker, he also received support from the Hunt family, who owns the Kansas City Chiefs."
From his speech
"For the ladies present today, congratulations on an amazing accomplishment. You should be proud of all that you have achieved to this point in your young lives. I want to speak directly to you briefly because I think it is you, the women, who have had the most diabolical lies told to you. How many of you are sitting here now about to cross this stage and are thinking about all the promotions and titles you are going to get in your career? Some of you may go on to lead successful careers in the world, but I would venture to guess that the majority of you are most excited about your marriage and the children you will bring into this world.
I can tell you that my beautiful wife, Isabelle, would be the first to say that her life truly started when she began living her vocation as a wife and as a mother. I'm on the stage today and able to be the man I am because I have a wife who leans into her vocation. I'm beyond blessed with the many talents God has given me, but it cannot be overstated that all of my success is made possible because a girl I met in band class back in middle school would convert to the faith, become my wife, and embrace one of the most important titles of all: homemaker."
Contrary to what is being said, he never said " women's place is in the home" as The Hill and most other have said. It is a choice that women can and do make everyday.
Bill Maher had a great take on the subject .
“I can’t express how much this guy is not like me,” Maher said during a panel discussion Friday.
“He’s religious. He loves marriage. He loves kids… And he’s now history’s greatest monster.”
“Again, I don’t agree with much with this guy, but I don’t get the thing. He said… ‘Some of you may go on to lead successful careers in the world.’ Ok, that seems fairly, like, modern. ‘But I would venture to guess that the majority of you are most excited about your marriage and the children you will bring into this world.’ I don’t see what the big crime is. I really don’t.”
“And I think this is part of the problem people have with the left is that lots of people in this country are like this. Like he’s saying some of you may go on to lead successful careers, but a lot of you are excited about this other way that people- everybody used to be. And now can’t that be a choice too?” Maher continued.
“And I feel like they feel very put upon, like there’s only one way to be a good person and that’s to get an advanced degree from one of those ass hole factories like Harvard.”
I guess it stems from the idea that it is an either have a career or be a "homemaker". I would be willing to bet his mother and wife will tell you that their family is their greatest calling regardless of the success they have had in their careers.
I've watched hundreds of award speeches, HOF speeches, any speech where a person is being honored and regardless of the sex or race of the honoree a vast majority of them family is the most important part of their lives.
@Floridarob posted:Another Opinion or three
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Butker has also received encouragement from prominent Catholic leaders. Bishop James Johnston of the Diocese of Kansas City said in a statement:
“Harrison Butker’s passion for his Catholic faith and his family are beautiful and well known. And like most people, he also has strong opinions on where we are as a Church and as a nation. The Catholic Church believes that God calls everyone to pursue holiness no matter what path they take. As St. Paul notes, that diversity of callings and vocations is essential to the life and mission of the Church. I support Mr. Butker’s right to share his faith and express his opinions.”
Bill Donuhue, President of the Catholic League, wrote in a statement on Thursday that Butker “nailed it” during the commencement speech. “His courage and his commitment to Catholicism is laudatory,” Donohue said. “A heralded Catholic football player defends traditional moral values at a Catholic college — how novel.”
If society is to judge the propriety of certain speech, then consideration must be given to the unique values of the community in which the speech is shared. There should be some acceptance of the fact that different communities carry different customs and beliefs.
Broader Appeal
Despite the initial uproar, Butker’s views appear to have broader appeal. Within hours of the controversy breaking, his jersey became one of the top selling in the NFL, eclipsing even his Kansas City MVP teammate Patrick Mahomes. By Friday, all female-sized Butker jerseys at NFL.com had been sold out.
Butker has received support from teammates, including Mississippi-native Chris Jones, who posted on X that he loved the kicker and called him “my brotha.” Following an effort by the NFL to distance itself from Butker, he also received support from the Hunt family, who owns the Kansas City Chiefs."
I am sure that the NFL will forfiet the royalties on those jersey sales.
@Dr._Bob posted:Dude, I went to Catholic schools from grade school to high school. You don't argue with nuns.
I grew up around a convent. It’s true.😊
Aaron Rodgers will have at least 30 TDs this season.
rushing or receiving?
According to AFC East opponents, Aaron Rodgers is washed 🤔
afc east fans are calling aaron rodgers washed. meanwhile, rodgers is throwing the ball in a completely different direction than the cameraman (and myself) were expecting
— jets west (#1 ashtyn davis fan) (@jetstothewest) May 20, 2024
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What would a successful season be? For whom?
1) If for Rodgers - another torn tendon would get him to retire. Old QBs never die, they just fade back and pass away.
2) If for the Jets - That their legacy of futility would continue such that the YouTube guy would make a video of it.
3) If for Packer fans - a SB victory with the youngest and cheapest (I mean most inexpensive) team in the league. And what about the Jets? Who??????
@Goalline posted:Tough crowd. 😅
Great, now the fucking nuns are woke. We are screwed. 
A gentle reminder that when you draft Garrett Wilson as high as he is going right now you’re also drafting the health of Aaron Rodgers.
— Drew Davenport (@DrewDavenportFF) May 30, 2024
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Aaron Rodgers looks like your hungover uncle who’s warming up for the annual turkey bowl, but he’s still recovering from a THUNDEROUS night of drinking pic.twitter.com/4M9MmVv3zr
— No Filter Network (@NoFilterNet) May 30, 2024
Ooof. I realize it's early, but man. Rodgers is looking.....OLD
@packerboi posted:A gentle reminder that when you draft Garrett Wilson as high as he is going right now you’re also drafting the health of Aaron Rodgers.
— Drew Davenport (@DrewDavenportFF) May 30, 2024
pic.twitter.com/pn3bkGmCNhAaron Rodgers looks like your hungover uncle who’s warming up for the annual turkey bowl, but he’s still recovering from a THUNDEROUS night of drinking pic.twitter.com/4M9MmVv3zr
— No Filter Network (@NoFilterNet) May 30, 2024Ooof. I realize it's early, but man. Rodgers is looking.....OLD
Rodgers claimed he had blisters. Okey dokey
Here's a video from his most legendary performance.
@ilcuqui posted:Rodgers claimed he had blisters. Okey dokey
Herpes?
@YATittle posted:Here's a video from his most legendary performance.
I'll always remember that game. My mom had passed away in August and we were back home in Wisconsin at my niece's house. Her husband had nabbed a bear that year hunting and we had bear burgers for dinner! That game was a nail-biter... One of the best wins ever.
Yes it was a stunning game, one for the ages. Particularly sweet how the Bears and their fans thought they had broken the trend and we snatched it from them.
