He was Darrel Bevel before Darrel Bevel.
Day 113 of Rodgers saga and Day 19 of DEFCON2. YES, 99.99999% Rodgers will be starting qb for Packers this season. Saga will continue until 12 believes the Packers have been punished and embarrassed enough.
— Steve HomerTrue (@espnhomer) May 17, 2021
Based on AR's history of extensive passive-aggressive behavior that's a distinct possibility.
@SteveLuke posted:Just want to get the LOYAL MANAGEMENT-BACKERS POSITION straight.
I keep hearing that NO ONE PERSON is bigger than the Packer organization ... when it comes to Rodgers.
Fine, but why does that only apply to Packer players such as Rodgers and not every member of the franchise?
Why did the vaunted Packer organization wait YEARS TOO LATE to jettison ineffective coaches like Dom, Zook, Slocum, Winston Moss, and McCarthy?
And you know what I personally would have admired?
If someone, anyone, in the organization had stepped in and not let a (medically) incompetent Ted Thompson be in charge of the roster for at least 3 years after his sell-by date.
But no, not in Green Bay, where Ted kept control (at least publicly) of personnel for a BILLION dollar corporation because the insular, complacent front office would not want to upset the status quo ... even though everyone of them (including Gutey) knew Ted was in Al Davis land and HURTING THE ORGANIZATION.
I just wonder where all the no one is bigger than the team Rodgers' critics were when Ted (or whomever was running the show from behind the curtain), Mac and the boys were given kept YEARS too late.
And in answer query above, "Did the FO f'up ..." yes, yes it did and it has been F'ing up for a number of years now.
Agree. Murphy is a joke and I think Gute is way over his head. The trio structure is brilliant!!
@michiganjoe posted:Day 113 of Rodgers saga and Day 19 of DEFCON2. YES, 99.99999% Rodgers will be starting qb for Packers this season. Saga will continue until 12 believes the Packers have been punished and embarrassed enough.
— Steve HomerTrue (@espnhomer) May 17, 2021Based on AR's history of extensive passive-aggressive behavior that's a distinct possibility.
And his silence serves his purpose well.
"It is better to remain silent at the risk of being thought a fool, than to talk and remove all doubt of it," said Maurice Switzer in 1907. (And before you say, "Twain said it," no, apparently this dude Switzer said it first and Twain used slightly different phrasing.)
Anyway, the silence of both the FO and Rodgers right now is helping each of them. We have no idea what's going on behind the scenes and neither side is saying anything directly to anyone. This secondhand crap is what drives the media myth monster.
@michiganjoe posted:Day 113 of Rodgers saga and Day 19 of DEFCON2. YES, 99.99999% Rodgers will be starting qb for Packers this season. Saga will continue until 12 believes the Packers have been punished and embarrassed enough.
— Steve HomerTrue (@espnhomer) May 17, 2021Based on AR's history of extensive passive-aggressive behavior that's a distinct possibility.
Jordan Love seems really humble and likable. I want a superstar QB I actually like. I hope Love hits his huge potential and becomes the best of the 3. That's a journey I will truly enjoy.
As someone who knew the guy in high school, I have to say he's a tremendous athlete (was a real force on the basketball team) and has a focus that will be necessary. He graduated early his senior year, missing basketball, so he could go play spring ball in college. Immediately changed his diet and hit the weight room hard so when he came back he looked like a different person. I was skeptical that he'd get a shot at starting so soon but sophomore year there he was ripping it up on a talented squad. The death of his dad, a police officer, had huge impact. He and Krys are as serious as five days of rain during this off-season, both understanding what you do between seasons sets you up for success in the fall. Their high school coach is a great guy and talks to them regularly. They've been here on campus a couple times recently and I've just missed them.
I'm 10 pages behind. Any new developments I should be aware of?
Like, inebriated? Or are we talking Wisconsin "background buzz"?
I called that “Senior year”
@BrainDed posted:I'm 10 pages behind. Any new developments I should be aware of?
Live video unearthed of the exact moment Rodgers got super freaked out when Gute revealed who he truly was:
@YATittle posted:As someone who knew the guy in high school, I have to say he's a tremendous athlete (was a real force on the basketball team) and has a focus that will be necessary. He graduated early his senior year, missing basketball, so he could go play spring ball in college. Immediately changed his diet and hit the weight room hard so when he came back he looked like a different person. I was skeptical that he'd get a shot at starting so soon but sophomore year there he was ripping it up on a talented squad. The death of his dad, a police officer, had huge impact. He and Krys are as serious as five days of rain during this off-season, both understanding what you do between seasons sets you up for success in the fall. Their high school coach is a great guy and talks to them regularly. They've been here on campus a couple times recently and I've just missed them.
Really enjoyed reading about his relationship with Krys Barnes.
@BrainDed posted:I'm 10 pages behind. Any new developments I should be aware of?
Henry squeezed a blackhead on his own face and BK called him racist. Also, Fedya was almost funny.
@Grave Digger posted:Live video unearthed of the exact moment Rodgers got super freaked out when Gute revealed who he truly was:
so...we're giving Gute six months?
This is making the rounds. No idea how legit this offer is. I have a feeling we will see tweets/rumors/bullshit "anonymous" sources like this the closer we get to June 1 ..
Is this the deal you would take?
— Bill Michaels (@Bill_Michaels) May 18, 2021
Is this the deal you want?
OR....
Do you want @AaronRodgers12 to remain with the @Packers? pic.twitter.com/Ac3Y2Voxzn
Don't need guards or Lock now that Bortles has signed....
What do they have for tackles? 
3 first round picks, a second and three good players? I think I might take that. Maybe take away Lock and Risner and see if you can add TE Fant. Rodgers is great but maybe we sell high right now if he doesn't want to be in Green Bay. 3 Additional #1 picks over three years could set GB up for the future.
I would modify the trade proposal to include Jeudy or Fant or Surtain instead of one of the 1st rounders. Any one of those three are more valuable than another late round 1st.
With Bortles, we also don’t need a backup QB.
The twist could be what do you do with Adams? Is he part of this trade as well? I would assume if Rodgers goes that Adams probably won’t extend with GB. So why not include him in the trade? It could look like this:
Rodgers and Adams - no picks
for
Denver picks rounds 1-3 in 2022 and round 1-2 in 2023. Surtain and Jeudy and Chubb also head to GB. Perhaps another player as well.
If the Packers were able to extend both Jaire and Davante and let’s say got back Jeudy and Chubb in return plus several high draft picks that sets GB up really well the next 3-4 years to compete. They still need help at certain positions, but that’s a decent overall roster not including whomever they get in the draft the next couple of years.
I’d keep Risner, drop Lock and try hard for Juedy
@Tschmack posted:If the Packers were able to extend both Jaire and Davante and let’s say got back Jeudy and Chubb in return plus several high draft picks that sets GB up really well the next 3-4 years to compete. They still need help at certain positions, but that’s a decent overall roster not including whomever they get in the draft the next couple of years.
IF Love is legit. If he’s not then you’re basically the 2018 Bears, which is to say a really good roster held back by QB play.
Gunt would trade Rodgers for Lock straight up and call it a day.
Who would be in favor of Joe Thomas’ proposal of giving Rodgers final say over the roster? Serious throwback to Curly Lambeau days of a player/coach/GM. I say fuck it, give it a try. Make the 3 headed leadership monster with Rodgers, LaFleur and Murphy. Murphy handles all the non-football ops, LaFleur handles the coaching side, Rodgers handles the final roster say and then you hire an experience ops guy to manage everything except final roster say.
and when rodgers decides he wants out? or his gf wants him to move to denver?
If that deal is legit and GB passes, I’m joining Hank on the Gunt is a dumdum train.
@Grave Digger posted:Who would be in favor of Joe Thomas’ proposal of giving Rodgers final say over the roster? Serious throwback to Curly Lambeau days of a player/coach/GM.
I realize your being sarcastic but I was shocked, well, no ....mortified how many Packer fans were on talk radio saying "give him what he wants " and AR should have say over the roster ala like another slash GM/Director of Personnel.
Right up there with allowing him to fire Gute as well.
@Tschmack posted:I would modify the trade proposal to include Jeudy or Fant or Surtain instead of one of the 1st rounders. Any one of those three are more valuable than another late round 1st.
We have a super young QB. Take the picks over Fant and Jeudy. Surtain would be worth it though.
@Grave Digger posted:Who would be in favor of Joe Thomas’ proposal of giving Rodgers final say over the roster? Serious throwback to Curly Lambeau days of a player/coach/GM. I say fuck it, give it a try. Make the 3 headed leadership monster with Rodgers, LaFleur and Murphy. Murphy handles all the non-football ops, LaFleur handles the coaching side, Rodgers handles the final roster say and then you hire an experience ops guy to manage everything except final roster say.
Give Rodgers full control over the Title Town district as well.
